Watson 853 And Quality Assurance (Top voted first)

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I recently got a rx refill of white watsons imprint 853 on them and a few people have told me these are bad quality! They said if they break easily and taste like chalk they are counterfeit!? They made my dad real sick!

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So I have a bunch of these too. They disintegrate into chalk in your mouth and they taste different. I also got a splitting headache from the little I did swallow. I'm just not sure if it was anxiety or the pills. I got them illicitly so I'm guessing they're fake. And, it seems there's more floating around so cal. Met two others with the same ones. The imprint is really good but uneven when you compare to a real one. Scared of them so they sit unused. Any idea how to test? I've had the usual hard white ones but these are softer. Did Activus change binding agents? Any light to shed?

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Give ya all some advice here, there are tons of fake opioids floating around in the word today, Mexico is making dangerous m366's out of phetnol or however you spell it, which can kill you. And millions of Watson 853 pills, the indicators on the Watson 853's is rather simple. There's a checklist I like to refer to:

Fakes are bigger then real, turn them on their sides and compare, you'll see how much bigger and oddly shaped the fakes are.

Check the O letter in Watson. If it's spaced too far from the S and strangely close to the N it's fake. Or if the O has a blemish on it.

And lastly, the most fool proof method there is. Break it in half, if it crumbles or breaks easy it's fake or really old. Finally, take out your cell phone flashlight and shine it directly on the broken in half part of the pills, wiggle it back n forth to different angles and if you see a really slight sparkle like glitter, that is the hydrocodone signifying it's real. If you don't see any sparkle, you've got a fake.

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A friend found the same. They break easily. They are chipped around the edges. I've also noticed the 3 in 853 is different. On the real ones, the 3 is rounded on the top and bottom. The fake ones are straight

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Yes got some in my script a few days ago break easily and doesn't desolve in water

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@Boo,

Watson 853 is actually reported to be a legitimate medication made by Watson Pharmaceuticals (now known as Actavis). So as long as your doctor prescribed them I wouldn't necessarily question their legitimacy. The idea about them coming off as being fake is quite common though, ever since Actavis changed the formula from the original yellow version.

They say that only the yellow dye was removed, but this clearly isn't the case when countless other patients have reported their ineffectiveness. Now these particular 10/325 tabs are frequently referred to as placebo pills (inducing withdrawal in patients who are used to taking higher quality pain medication).

I think for future reference, your best bet may be to ask the doctor to write a prescription for a specific brand other than Actavis and see how it works in comparison.

I hope your dad feels better soon!

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Buy a drug panel kit, dissolve the pill in water and pour a sample into the opiate section. If it comes back positive for opiates you know that they are real.

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Where can you buy a drug panel kit to check them? Someone said to do this in a response.

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Yes, the belief that these Watson 853 pills are fake is completely true. I got mine from a pharmacy I have been using for over a year and trust. When I picked up my Rx it was still in the original bottle that they come in from the pharmacy warehouse. I thought was kind of strange. I get kidney stones about 3 times a month and easy in great pain when I got these. I usually take 2 at a time because one doesn't help. And nothing happened. So I waited awhile and took 2 more. Still nothing. So I waited til the next day and took 2 more and nothing, but a sick feeling and no pain relief. So I called the pharmacy and asked if they were fake and the girl put the phone down to ask head pharmacist about them and he said they were fine...I just built a tolerance. Bull crap. So I just got my next script from a diffrent pharmacy and instant relief. I believe the government needs to step in and check on this. You are playing with people's livessels and pain they go through everyday. So to ease other people's mind....yes they are fake. So I would advise to ask Dr to write the rx for qualitest pills or check your rx before you leave aND if they are 853 give them back.

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But if it were laced with any of those, you would get some sort of feeling out of it.

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For anyone that would like to test the actual pill...They have a test kit you can buy at Walgreens that tests any substance. You may have to crush up the pill to a powder to do the test but it'll tell you if it's a real opiate or not, or what it is drug wise. I hope this helps...

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They check for metabolites not drugs, and Norco metabolized into hydromorphone which isn't in a normal 5 panel evaluation.

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My wife took some and when she chewed them they were very soft unlike a real hydrocodone and they did absolutely nothing for her. Another friend of mine said that there were fake Watson 853 going around Niagara Falls. I have been dealing with pills for over 20 years and I thought something was up when I saw how thin they were, but they have changed color shapes letters numbers and looks over the years so I was not sure at first and I was fooled because pill identifiers had them on there so the fake looks almost identical to the real ones. Be careful out there on where you spend your money. This goes to show how pathetic and sorry some people really are.

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Well this just happened to me yesterday I got them from a family member but later I got a call from his wife stating that her husband best friend made a mold of the Watson 853 and put aspirin and something else in it the copied the pill so warning everyone there is fake ones going around

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You can tell they are bad if you look at the 3. If it's flat on the top it's no good. And they are not consistent inside of you break them. Another way to tell is to drop a half in water if it dissolves fast and has little white beads in the bottom of the cup they are fake. You can also tell by the taste if you know what they taste like.

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The information shown "here" was posted on February 9th, 2015 and more than likely coincides with what you are experiencing. I would suggest flushing the pills down your toilet or returning them to the "pharmacist" who dispensed them to you.

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Wat of they don't break by just pressing hard are they still fake Watson 349

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Hi I just take a support to be a 853 pill as waston and I don't feel a then I hurt my legs about 2 year so the doctor put me on the and they all way take the pain away but it been a hour now and I don't think they are real want should I do

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Did it taste like anything? Or just taste like chalk? Did they end up being real or fake?

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I don't understand how drug stores can push fake norco. Is it happening if a friend might give u a couple? I have these norco 853 white pills now. I'd hate to think im taking something harmful. Can someone let me know? As long as u get them from ur drug store, they're real right?? Plz help

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I took two of the white Watson and after not experiencing the feeling I wanted. I checked the pill also noticing that they were now white. That led me to this page. After I took two more, now on 4, I started feeling what I needed but it wasn't strong. So does this possibly mean that they are extended release? Or am I just getting too use to pain killers. Also I am itchy on my face, ears and lower back more than normal.

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