War On Chronic Pain Patients (Page 6)

Thanks to all you drug abusers there has been an ongoing war on us legit chronic pain patients. Thanks to all who abuse pills and alcohol, because of you they wage war on us. Street drugs are cheaper so why do you all have to mess with the pills and make life difficult for us chronic pain sufferers? Are you stupid or just self centered? Britain uses our military to protect Afghan poppy for people like you, so quit trying to cook up the pills. We legit chronic pain patients would really appreciate it, not that you care, but maybe when you stop acting so self centered, people will actually begin to care about you. You reap what you sow.

To stem cell labs worldwide: We need you to cure degenerative discs and herniations for those that want to be cured instead of on pain meds. Make yourselves known. We need options. We know you have the cure. We need the FDA to help make up for lost time.

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Re: Cynthia (# 73)

I'm so sick of hearing about Facebook. You know what? It really is a spork not Facebook... ass book, okay?

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I just got an email about Purdue putting out a new buprenorphine wafer..for pain patients... Being it comes from the Sackler family it has got to be fairly decent.

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Re: Sissy (# 12)

I to had the same thing happen back last August. I walk along with you in this painful journey. Seems no one cares. If we were rich or in high places we would have a Dr. it’s all in who you are and who you KNOW!!

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In my case, I have spinal arthritis. The one med that seems to be genuinely effective is Tramadol, or Ultram (Tramadol combined with Tylenol). It's not a recreational drug by any stretch of the imagination, but is quite effective for certain types of chronic pain.

Why they had to schedule this med can only be explained as a political decision, by politicians who have zero understanding of genuine pain management, but are eager to look like they are doing "something" about the current opioid addiction phenomena.

I get the concept of trying to minimize vast amounts of Oxycodone and similar drugs being prescribed by doctors (as a result of big pharma claiming such was safe and non-addictive), but Tramadol is nowhere near that category of addictive meds. Just for legitimate pain, it is really effective.

Many ordinary people got addicted to the serious opioids, but nobody is becoming a heroin addict by taking Tramadol for pain. This is ridiculous.

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Re: Aeiou (# 1)

Hi, I was one of them, as I read your story, it sounds all to familiar as if your writing my story, been there done, that..my addiction to pills, and I have paid the price, they made me do things I normally would not do, and nobody in my family would ever think of me as in jail. Yep, I did desperate things, even I would have never imagined myself doing,..I'm also lucky my husband has never divorced me over,..but he Stayed and helped me over and over, i finally went to rehab for help, more than once, finally was put on buprenorphine treatments, so long story. Now i just picked up a different addiction to this medication,,I'm trying to look into our natural resources supplement that work and some are better than what the pharmaceutical companies has to offer us, before we had pills that's what was used..i was brought up in the 60s to take a pill for everything, I read so many theories on pharmaceutical products actually make us sicker only to run back to the doctor for just another pill..more and more people are turning away onto CBD I have used it and it help alot, I was kinda surprised at how much it did..so I'm looking at myself back in the day my love for pills, and now looking into another direction from staying away from as many pills as I can..knocking each one of slowly

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Re: Dead (# 99)

Well, guess what? I too have a broken vertebrae, spondololthesis, stenosis, scoliosis, and arthritis. ALL I get is 3 ten mg. Hydrocodone a day! I suffer every single day in severe pain and cannot get any relief. I know others who are getting hundreds of 30 mg. Morphine pills plus hundreds of methadone pills and mixing them makes quite the cocktail for this one person because they're constantly nodding out, hallucinating, lying, and destroying everything in their path. This person obviously abuses the medication but the point is, these are the kinds who are getting over prescribed and there's no way they're in severe enough pain to warrant this much medication, no one is unless they're at an end of life cancer situation.

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Re: Dead (# 77)

Sounds like my sibling. They've never held a job that was strenuous or had to lift heavy items. Never held a job longer than 5 yrs, the total no. of yrs. they worked out of 60 is only like 6 years. They kept getting all these unnecessary surgeries then they had a major back surgery and they never had anything wrong with their back other than having bad posture. They weren't diagnosed with Scoliosis as a kid, I was! They fought to get disability for 5 years and finally got it! This person abuses pain medication to the core!! They're seriously messed up mentally, don't know if it's from 35 yrs of abusing narcotics or what but they're screwed up. They think they're the ONLY person who has pain, their pain is worse than anyone else's and no one else deserves to be on pain meds but them! They say they can't move w/o their meds in the a.m., well duh I don't think anyone would be with all the pills they take. They told me one time they take 700+ mgs. of morphine per day plus 300 mgs. of methadone a day! When they came home from back surgery they didn't stay down, they went directly to doing things they shouldn't have done so it totally negated anything the surgery did! They have no responsibilities, are never accountable for all the crap and lies they tell about other family members, in other words they're a full blown rx. pain abuser and addict. These are the kind of people who shouldn't be getting mega quantities of meds but are. People who are suffering in real pain who don't abuse their medications have to suffer, how this person keeps getting these large qty's is beyond me!

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Re: Addiction (# 67)

And the truth is the more medication you take the worse the pain gets, this is a scientific fact, especially when you're abusing and taking large quantities. Don't get me wrong, no one can get relief on 2 to 3 Norco a day, this is a disgrace to someone with severe pain. We have some people who aren't really in a lot of pain who are getting rx'd huge amounts of morphine and other high powered opiates and I'm talking hundreds a month and then we have the other end of the spectrum, ppl suffering with too little medication who have legit diseases and injuries. It's so unfair to the people who are really hurting. Even though the CDC recommends the equivalent of 90 mgs. of morphine per day my doctor is only giving me 3 Norco a day, this is inhumane. I have severe arthritis, a broken vertebrae, scoliosis, stenosis and a cracked tailbone. Makes me irate that ppl who don't even have half the pain I do are getting over-prescribed.

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Re: Ty Dollar Sign (# 108)

I agree, My doc prescribes 5mg of Norco 4 times a day for RSD, severe back problems and extreme pain from a botched broken ankle surgeries (12 in all) but he is afraid to prescribe any more for fear of prosecution. I don't want to get out of bed most days and am very depressed that things are not going to get any better.

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Re: Sissy (# 12)

My heart breaks for you.
What route did you take? Did you find another doctor?

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Charlene (# 104) --

Hey there, is the buprenorphine film called Belbuca? If so what dosage are you on? I'm on 600 mcg, and I'm pretty good on this dosage. It doesn't get to my back as much as I'd like, but it beats having to constantly take pills.. Is that the only med you're on now? I hope it's working for you..

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Re: Ty Dollar Sign (# 106)

and a friend's mother was at the end of life stages with cancer, and still didn't receive adequate pain medication. She died in her daughter's arms in a private jet headed to Mexico to get pain relief. All the money in the world didn't help her. in this day and age?

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Re: TnJack175 (# 111)

The buprenorphine film is called suboxone, however along with a lot of other people the naloxone in it is had to tolerate, at least that is what I have read, now in my case I take plain buprenorphine 8mg, x 3 daily..and when I started taking this medication back in 2005 they started you out on subutex 8mg x 4 daily for 6 days, 7th day on they would switch to suboxone 8/2, x 4 daily..it was prescribed much different than it is today, now the very 1st day on suboxone8/2, I noticed it was different.....so different that I called the doctor to ask why and did I get something that might have been a wrong medication?....they said that I'm on the right one...so I decided to look further into the medicine..back then not much was really known about it and very few doctors prescribed it or even knew about it..all I could find out is that only two groups of people were prescribed (subutex). If you were pregnant or could not tolerate the naloxone....not only was the subutex way cheaper but it also works better..so I decided to make my doctors appointment and get the subutex instead of suboxone...it was hard he wouldn't budge much but after several attempts saying I had allergic reactions to naloxone I finally got my way....

I'm still on the (subutex) 8mg x 3....I remember back then even telling a doctor that I don't even get headaches or any aches and pains..he just smiled and great..back then it most definitely was not even thought of to be a pain pill like today.....now I'm on it because I was on pain medication and I live here in southwest Florida, pain management doctors and pharmacies connected together giving patients all the pain medication they wanted with no problem at all..well I got it but not like a lot of other people who had guts to just come out and ask for whatever they wanted with me I just accepted whatever...it's really a long sad story I have, and have paid the price of addiction....I also cannot get off this medicine for nothing. tried and tried, the only thing I haven't done yet is admit myself into a 28 day stay...I'm 59 and I don't think my body can handle another withdrawal.

My last attempt was June of last year...I went to the same pain management doctor that used to give me some of the pain medication from back in the day. My prescribed detox medication was percocet 10s, x 4 daily alongside a few other comfort medications...after 9 days I was so I'll and lost a lot of weight that my husband had to carry me into his office before his office opened is what the doctor told me to do on a Sunday evening when I spoke to him last....and since he only prescribed suboxone I accepted it until I could get back into my other doctor for the subutex..oh I don't like the suboxone at all..at least with subutex for me it an energy-intensive on top of it being way cheaper..I have insurance they will pay for either....buprenorphine 8mg, just came out with another new generic guess who puts it out? Of all companies Purdue,....its called Rhodes 8mg, and it's the best ever..there's only one other company we have is hikma 8mg, the rest are not so great, you should look for the medschat group a guy named goozer wrote it and he is the go to guy for information, he's very knowledgeable about medication and this new Rhodes that came out in Oct 2017.....sorry I got carried away with this topic but I like to guide anyone who asked me about it to be able to guide anyone to the good buprenorphine out there.

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Re: TnJack175 (# 111)

Sorry one more thing is just a month ago I hurt myself I believe it is a SCIATICA I have googled it trying to diagnose myself, so even on my dose of buprenorphine 8mg x 3, I don't want to say it doesn't work for pain....it's hard to tell, because it definitely dose work for pain because after my first dose in the am I'm able to walk around throughout the day but to say oh wow I have no pain,. I could not say that....however I have asked my doctor about your medacine and was told by many doctors that what I'm on the subutex...........

Buprenorphine is way better for pain relief..so I have never tried it...I really would suggest that other post I told you to look for because the guy goozer is good and he takes it for pain...he is honest and knowledgeable, kind and will never guide us in the wrong direction..keep a look out i will find his post and the correct name for you

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Re: Charlene (# 113)

Hey Charlene, Oh Yes, keep me informed about this.. Thanks
J.

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Re: Charlene (# 114)

Hey Charlene, This med is called BELBUCA, and it's sorta knew. The main ingredient is buprenorphine, but the Pharmacology breakdown changes it in too many ways to try and explain. Belbuca is designed as as Pain Killer, as a mild opiate Antagonist.. I hope this helps

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Re: Jack175 (# 116)

Yes, I heard of belbuca when it first came out in 2015. I'm wracking my brain thinking about the doctor's name who I email about for information on it,. He wasn't a local doctor but I watched his presentation on the topic..I was interested in it... at the time I told him I was on buprenorphine 8mg x 3,..he told me I was better off with what I was already on because he said mine was stronger??....at the time I felt like I would go in and. Out of withdrawal symptoms do I was interested in a change...I had come to find out that at that time I just was on a different generic that just didn't agree with me so since then I have switched to the generic I'm on now and since have not any problems....now dont quote me on if mine is stronger or not because I don't know..I'm just quoting what the man told me to stay where I'm at now...However it seems whenever they come out with a new buprenorphine product I google it for some knowledge about it, since I have been taking it so long, I don't like the idea that I could possibly be taken this medicine to the day I die...it upsets me because back in 2005 when I started it several pharmacy's and doctors told me, don't worry it's not addictive and now several years later I find out it is very addictive and I wished I never started taking it..however good luck to you and I hope you do well on it..it's a shame what is going on to the pain patients and having such a hard time getting medicine for pain..nice talking with you..

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Re: TnJack175 (# 111)

Btw, as far as taking other meds along with the buprenorphine 8mg, I take 800mg gabapentin x3, cymbalta, and buspar, and flexaril x 3..wow that's alot of meds, and I probably left one out, due to brain fog, it's late. Lol..the cymbalta I just started about 4 months ago 90mg, and it definitely has helped with my pain,. I read mixed reviews as always some like it, while others don't. So far I'm good.

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