War On Chronic Pain Patients (Page 3)
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Thanks to all you drug abusers there has been an ongoing war on us legit chronic pain patients. Thanks to all who abuse pills and alcohol, because of you they wage war on us. Street drugs are cheaper so why do you all have to mess with the pills and make life difficult for us chronic pain sufferers? Are you stupid or just self centered? Britain uses our military to protect Afghan poppy for people like you, so quit trying to cook up the pills. We legit chronic pain patients would really appreciate it, not that you care, but maybe when you stop acting so self centered, people will actually begin to care about you. You reap what you sow.

To stem cell labs worldwide: We need you to cure degenerative discs and herniations for those that want to be cured instead of on pain meds. Make yourselves known. We need options. We know you have the cure. We need the FDA to help make up for lost time.

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Re: Donita (# 64)

You said it no matter what they come out with all about money they get you addicted it don't work you need more anyone get you off at if it's the world today I think I'm not a communist at all but sometimes I think somebody should just drop the bomb and let the world rejuvenate again like it did wait a long time many light years ago because something has to give you know what I got to deal with sometimes I just want to be dead if anybody else feels that way

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James (# 52) --

That's it you said it some people complain about ridiculous issues why they're in pain but they don't know what the real pain is like my name is James II and I got to deal with osteoporosis pain broken and wedged vertebrae I don't think there's anything worse than that I got a narcissistic friends that they they just all pain is think of addiction as pain that's b******* I tell them deal with what I got then you seal what pain is really like you know how people are everybody thinks that they have the worst pain but once they deal with what I got then they realize if they're able to deal with what I got they would realize they just addicted and they call it paint keep it going man you said

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Can you really think the drug addicts care about any kind of drugs if they like heroin? Anything they can probably get their hands on they are going to use. Because I'm in chronic pain my doctor cut me down in half pretty much and he just left, and now I'm at the same place but I got a different doctor. After seeing my old doctor since 2011. Yeah, so now in 2019 he left, so what do I do now?

I tried to go on a methadone maintenance program and they wouldn't even accept me. They told me I'm not a drug addict and told me to find pain management. I told them pain management has a big problem, so apparently I'm addicted now and have pain, so they told me they cannot deal with my pain issues and will not accept me in a methadone maintenance program. So basically I'm f***** ... So blame the government and whoever else thinks that nobody should take opiates at all, just Aspirin or Tylenol. That's my statement and I'm sick of living the way I'm living. I say this now ... I wish I was dead ... I probably don't really mean it, but...

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Re: Sabrina (# 70)

So sry as I've been afraid it will eventually happen that I will (again) be asked to do pain clinic for diagnosed chronic pain. Soon be 62 and had 9.5 hours surgery on L5. Had lateral and bilateral ligament/tendon surgery at 23 years old, I admit I loved the Purcudan but loved my children and wife more. Besides, my wife (RN) threw them away, anyhow got back to my medical job and professional music job, don't recall side effects if any. At 45 had the L5 surgery with hospital bed in my living rm, physical therapy and rest. But, I doubled and tripled back therapy exercise and additionally doing arm, leg, butt and anything to get my heart rate up. My Dr wouldn't do surgery unless I stopped smoking > did everything Dr told me and like I said extra. Was back at medical job months sooner than prognosis suggested and doing my music much more than ever, But, much different this time with side effects, I would say major side effects of fatigue, appreciation of anything, depression for at least 6 months. Remember falling asleep at work, burnouts with music and overall withdrawal from everything >> on scale of 1-10 looking back I was 5, I stopped cold turkey until age 52. Past decade that scale number is much higher with depression/fatigue 10-8 and overall pain averaging 6.5-8.5. Believe my age, medication inconsistencies (changing from one generic to another), depression, anxiety and fatigue could be factor(s) as to getting worse each month or maybe I would have been much better if I'd stayed off pain medication. Of course a lot happened during the past decade including trauma from acts of nature and trauma from my own makings. Diet and exercise are our friend for physical and mental well-being, I pray for motivation to diet and exercise everyday, I fall short. Guess everyone has their share of good and bad, coping skills are harder when I simply don't have energy to motivate myself to seek help. Psychology has come further than I knew it decades ago, so, pray I take that step and that my son or anyone young enough to get off pain killer's I pray they'll succeed. With that said, bible and Drs say 21 day's to make a habit and 21 day's to break a habit, is opiates more like 6 months to a year? Thank you and God bless.

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Vintage Lady (# 55) --

You know anybody in pain Major Payne b******* pain chronic pain unbearable pain whatever it might be if most people go to pain management or they get benzos they're going to want more the most the more the merrier the more the merrier that's the world today the more the merrier so think of that s*** when I was younger I was taking Vicodin methadone Klonopin and and oxycodone so when I was driving around I love the feeling love the feeling okay just loved it crashing into trees blacking out breaking bones it was the best time of my life so that's why they're doing it that's why I'm gone just think about it

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Go to, 'Don't Punish Pain Rally' on facebook, join and read what all they are doing, it is amazing! We're having rallies in all the State Capitals, finally have our first commercial on Fox Business channel, you'll have to check your TV Guide to see what channel it is on and oh so much! Take care and good luck!

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Re: Sabrina (# 71)

Sabrina, bookoo organics they have a kilo for around $80. That should last a good amount of time depending on how much you take. I'd also buy in powder form and capsule yourself because it's cheaper. I bought my capsules and machine online. At first I'd make my own. A good type to buy for daytime would be a green like green maeng da. U can split the kilo in half or 4s. Because the greens are used for daytime and the red maeng da would be good for bedtime.. I have about 4 groups I'm in through Facebook called..leaf of life lounge,. Greenhouse botanics..they also are very good vendor all 3..by joining these groups so many people will help you and guide you and teach you how to take kratom. At the beginning for me I hit some trials and errors on why is this not working for me? Well because of my subutex treatment use..how can a plant fight a hard pharmaceutical medicine. I had to taper off and then the kratom started to do its job..also their are many ways to invest it like a toss n wash its quick and easy. That is if you can tolerate the taste of kratom..you can watch youtube videos for info too...

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Re: Charlene (# 66)

Can you recommend a good, safe, reputable company?

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Re: sandy (# 69)

I have just found this chat, and am thankful I have loads of people to talk to. I am 100% disabled and on disability. Been on same pain meds for going on 6 years. My doc retired because of the same reason your doc retired. My appt for pain management is Fri at 9am and I am very afraid. Rumor has it that the group is not writing anymore rx for Norco. I do not know what to do. I do not abuse, never taken any other medication. The same rumor is that they aren't helping those turned away to ween off. Those people are being referred to a detox clinic! If I don't have pain medication, my life at 59 yo will be reduced to a wheelchair. I have only been out of my house once since Thanksgiving as it is.....almost a month. Suggestions anybody? Try to ween myself or clinic if I am one of the lucky ones? I am so freaking upset.

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I actually considered stem cell therapy but the biggest thing is it’s not covered by insurance the other thing is I’ve heard from people I checked into the study people have gone blind there’s been some pretty bad side effects. But he is right people who abuse is for recreational use you you take in our lives away. I was able to work and support myself because Social Security is not enough. But now all they will give me is two pills a day. I stayed away from pain medication and was in excruciating pain for five years. I went ahead and got bilateral knee replacements. Eight weeks later all the sudden started showing up in my back and for a total of 10 years I’ve been in hell except for the medication that I was allowed to have it taken out taken. To anybody and everybody that wants to abuse fentyl it’s everywhere on the street.. My doctor that I had retired because of all the bureaucracy and all the metal laying and he wasn’t allowed to be a doctor anymore. So now I try to survive 2 t10 mg tablets a day. If you think one tablet last 12 hours try it. I’m not able to work Clean my house or take care of hardly anything. My biggest fear is that nobody will ever help me and give me back my life again I’m 66 years old and I only see it getting worse. So for those of you who are addicted and not needing a medication you need to think about what you’ve done to us who are in so much pain we can barely breathe.
Not someone to throw stones but you have ruined it for all of us. And and I know it’s falling on deaf ears. But if anybody can help us get her medications back look into your conscience and say they need to get help and let these people get what they need. I’m certainly not holding my breath.

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Roro (# 5) --

Hello sir, or ma'am, I'm just bumping into a few comments here and I'm curious please...what do you know about these U/A's? Please if you can help me out greatly appreciate it. I'm a suboxone patient and I went to a new doctor, my older one retired. I have not done drugs since my treatment started in 2005..I never had a positive drug results in my life. And my first 3 visits were fine, after that every drug panel was coming up positive for everything, ya, I mean like a Christmas tree. I had to Google many of the drugs, I have heard of them but never even seen them in my life. I at first was accusing them of tainting them.... then I started thinking that the doctor was just money hungry because she was only 32 and fresh out of college and her policy was weekly visits, weekly scripts and weekly therapy. Call me crazy but I did it, I had to prove it wasn't me..now prior to the last visit the secretary called me and said if you're not clean the doc will be letting you go. I said but, but..she said we will work through this. I don't get it...well again I went the next day like before somewhat nervous I had gotten so afraid to pee, I have nothing to hide, except what they have put me in a state of depression I have never seen before. I begged for bloodwork they caved in. Because the last U/A was positive for PCP, barbiturates and one other..so on the very same day I peed I did the bloodwork..was I a happy camper it turned out perfectly just as I thought it would.. that is other than to find out she was letting me go as a patient of only 3 months...was it she was embarrassed of her mistakes?? I have no idea what I did wrong..so if there is something more to these cheap U/A's I would like to know. Thank you so much.

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Let's see how many feathers can we ruffle? It seems like a lot of attention here is being thrown at people who have abused their medications! ADDICTS. Let's say we are all equal at the moment. Let's say everyone's pain levels are the same. I think some people in these groups have no idea that they are probably an addict too, just don't look at it this way..how can anyone say...I have taken percocet for 15 years...I never ran out of my medications, I never asked for an early refill? Are you kidding me or yourself? Can you honestly think that you after 15years can put your bottle of pills into the garbage can, and never look back?? Humm I think not..because after one night without your medication you will begin a withdrawal like no other..I'm not talking just uncomfortable. So next time you think about pointing your finger, think first. I do not blame the addict for starting this..we have more street drugs now, if not more.

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marin5 (# 62) --

The only thing I know of that's natural is kratom. Just buy it on the internet and from a reputable vendor. And stick to the green leaves of kratom. It will get u through any withdrawal & will take care of pain, anxiety and sleep...if u are still taking opiates, wean yourself off. You will not notice kratom working at first until all pain meds have left your symptom. What I mean about going on the internet is not through a smoke shop or gas station. You have no idea how long it's been on the shelf...and if u decide to try it purchase it in bulk, half a kilo or more in power form. U can buy a capsule machine on the internet too or make the capsules by hand. If u buy the pre-made capsules u will pay the price and they are not cheap, and who knows what one may use for fillers. Good luck to you.

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Re: marin5 (# 63)

That was one of the most heartfelt and best written post I've seen in a while. Thank you for saying what I couldn't.

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I agree with u bout people abusing the meds, but to be honest if u really think about it, every pill or medication or surgery they come out with are all recalling and making us sicker and it's not helping us at all. All it's doing is prolonging our death with all dis meds, surgery whatever. It's all bout money these days. And no one is here for helping anyone at all these days. They don't even care bout themselves so y wud they care unless there is money involved. U cud get over it/pain without all dat. It's all in the mind. Be strong and think bout it.

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Re: Aeiou (# 1)

I don't know if this is the only way to know which one you are, but from people I've talked with on both sides, show that if you get energetic
or high after taking a drug, you have an addictive personality, but if after taking the same or alike drug, and you're just waiting for your pain to subside, or if after so many hours it's time for your dose, and you forget it, even if you're in a lesser pain, it's almost sure that you are a Chronic pain patient! And right now I don't have cravings, I just want to find something natural that will help me get off of the pain meds, and have my Dr. keep me from going into withdrawal because the Dea stopped making my legitimate prescribed pain meds with no warning. I don't want anything to do with their drugs that they play games with suffering chronic pain patients anymore.

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Simply put there's much more to this issue .Thats the excuse DEA uses for the tactics being used. There's no reason good enough for coming between a patient and there doctor. Health care is a disaster because of what is going on. There's a lot of people suffering. In America it must be stopped. It's already gone to far and un answered.

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Welcome to Trump(conservative) country. Drugs are good! Religion is bad!

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Sissy (# 13) Great post Sissy7... What in the Hell Can we Do. Ive been Sober 31 years..I will not Drink but I see this happening to everybody under Supposedly Pain Mangement. If they think they can get numbers down here. What happens turn to worse Drugs Heron or Something worse. The DEA is creating a new Black Market.. They want to keep their jobs and do not give a crap about Legitimate User....

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Re: Kaydollasign (# 58)

Wonderful post so sorry for your pain. This whole opiod crack down is BS. The deaths of people using heroin has sky rocketed since the new regulations. People suffering from pain are going to the streets to find relief for their pain. Things need to change so the people with chronic pain can live a somewhat normal life.Thank youfor setting the information straight on RSD I have it in my leg and it is horrible and the pain meds 5mg of norco 4 times a day just does not help .

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