Using Fentanyl To Get Off Methadone (Page 2) (Top voted first)

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I have been on Methadone for about 5 years. I had an addiction to oxycontin and the went on methadone to quit. My highest dose was 120mg and I have managed to wean myself down to 17mg. The problem is I am having a really hard time getting off of it. Doing some reading I have learned that methadone is one of the worst for trying to quit.

I have a perscription for 12mcg/h fentanyl for back pain which I havent been using but was thinking about quiting the methadone and using the patch instead so when I eventually drop it the withdraws won't be as bad.

Has anyone tried this?
is 12mcg enough?
Any other thoughts or advice?

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linda, email me @ {edited for privacy} no spaces

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hey mike.. do you still get the fentanyl patches ?? i'd like to talk to you more if you do.. just post again on this forum... thkx

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Hey guys. So, I take 160 mgs methadone a day. Im ending up short © end of month(2 days). If I put a 100 mcg/h 72 hr(16.8mg) fentanyl patch on, will that cover me for 2 days of not having my methadone? Thank u !

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You still around?I hope so... Is that a true story u told about using fent to get off methadone? I'm currently at 20mg of methadone for a little over 4 yrs. I have patches. And want to do anything it takes to get off methadone. I just want to limit my withdrawals as much as possible. I can't and do not want to lose my job. Thanks in advance for any help u may be able to give. J

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You really need a higher dose to keep you from withdrawls,I learned that the hard way.

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Want to go from 100th Fenton all to methadone because it no longer working.wen 100th to to 14 ml methadon. Now cut to 50 and haven't increased method on having sweats and cramps and morepain

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I am going through the same thing. Got up to 160mg of methadone down to 80mg then my doctor split town got divorced and left pattients hanging. I am having bad dt's waiting to find a doc but have 12mcg fentanyl patches too. Did it help your symptoms? I am truthfully scared and trying to find a doctor to get off it all or get my back/neck fixed surgically. My question, did this work for you?
Thank you.

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In my opinion, I would take the fent. You can't stop taking drugs like that. Lifetime experience. The true honesty would be, once you find a new doc, if you will be asking fent or methadone.

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Yo i agree totally and have some good indica buds around so you can take the esge off at first. Im on day 4 of 90mg of methadone a day now im on 50mcg fentenyl patch changing it every 4 days just to make them last and im feeling great.

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This dude knows what's up with the methadone. Soma really helps too. Benzos are great for withdrawal and definitely valuing because it has a longer half life.

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I've been reading through this thread & I wasn't going to comment but I just can't help myself. I was on Fentanyl for 10 years worked up to 75mcg every 48 hours plus allowed 2 10mg morphine tablets a day & taking
ambien to sleep. I had been with this pain doc for 10years. I had received blocks many times as well. I ended up losing my insurance so when I went in for my next appt guess what .. They had to let me go unless I wanted to pay $200 a visit so no way I could do that right! She my pain doc gave me a month taper on the Fentanyl ONLY and it was 50mcg every 72hours. Well I'm here to tell anyone who is getting off Fentanyl after being on it for some time it is pure HELL! Plus the morhine & ambien I was taking & she gave me no taper on those. All I had to use to help me was 0.5 mgs of Ativan I got from a family member who helped me through it. It was so painfu! This is what I dealt with no sleep for days , constantly needing to move, body convulsions, face twitching , legs & body cramps, rigors & my mind was crazy & I felt any minute I was going to loose it, vomiting, stomach cramps, chills , sweating, & I felt like any minute I was going to loose it!! This ALL went on for a solid 3 weeks but I still had issues afterwards with restless legs & sleeping & clear thinking & horrible anxiety! But I lived through it. I don't agree with using a narcotic to get off narcotics it makes no sense. The way I see it there's no way around withdrawal. It's gonna happen when you stop or taper any drug you have been using or abusing for even a short period off time. You simply have to hang on like crazy & be determined & go through it & then once you get through the physical withdraw there is the mind the mental & emotional stuff which was also difficult. I've been off Fentanyl for 3 years & I will never ever use it again. It was a very scary experience that I do not want to relieve ever again. Life is better without it. I'm definitely more active & more outgoing like I was before ever needing these meds. I had major nerve damage from a sever case of shingles & I still deal with the pain I just use other options to treat it. Good luck & God bless to those out there trying to get off this horrible drug!

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Hey you do what you gotta do. That means don't suffer ( for weeks months or years) trying to get off Methadone.
My pain doctor gave me 50 fent patches and Opana for BT to get off...been a week and legs burn at times but I wanted off now after only 3 months for chronic pain. Man I could run lift weights walk 5 miles...but something told me I would suffer years later...it is too powerful to quit!!! But even pain patients have limits and and not addicts.

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I think it depends on how your body breaks down and uses the medication. I have been on 10 mcg Fentanyl patches for 2 years, they do nothing for my pain. I had to use an old bottle of methadone when my doctor was put on leave, due to false allegations from a seeker. The methadone did not work the first time i tried to use it for my ER medication. But it works so well this time around that i am planning on asking my Dr to switch me to it and off of the Fentanyl patches. I hope you all have a pain free or low pain winter.

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Just so you know, when switching from metadone to morphine with out reduction for cross tolerance its between 1:4 and 1:20 methadone:morphine

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Mike, I've been taking Methadone for 2 yrs. (mid-2015 to now...may 2017) at 10-40mg's daily. Taken for chronic, debilitating back/disc pain prescribed by Dr., it has helped tremendously. I began with Oxycodone 5, then 10, then 20mgs, 4 x's daily. When I complained that the Oxycodone's weren't as effective anymore, the Dr then put me on Methadone, 10mg at 3x's daily. I took myself off of the Oxycodone halfway through my 1st yr of the Methadone. I just felt that both drugs were too much, even tho' together I felt no pain with my back. (Disintegrating L-6, 5& 4 discs & spinal stenosis) the exchange went well and I felt no withdrawal from the Oxycodone.

Now I've been on methadone and it does nothing for the pain. Nothing. In the meantime my right hip with sciatica ( caused by a life-threatening car accident in 1975) has decided to turn into another nightmare of pain. Methadone wouldn't touch it. So... I wanted OFF of it, right? Because of the newly tightened-up laws here in West Virgina (where I live but was not born here in this backwards state......a little harsh criticism there)..... it is next to impossible to get prescribed ANY pain killers, be they opiates or narcotics or of any pain-reducing qualities. The Doctors are frightened by the new laws. (WV has the highest rates of OxyContin O.D,'s as well as illicit drug O.D.'s. It's a poor state, & there's a tendency to 'escape' reality, especially down in the lower counties (Hatfield-McCoy territory). -a bit of history there- I live in Jefferson County, the richest (and closest to Wash DC) county in WV. Not meaning to sound snobbish, even this area has a great drug problem either those same drugs.

Anyway, going off my tangent now, my Dr - a pain management clinic Dr (quack) decided on using Fentanyl, to see if it can relieve both back pain & hip pain. Tho' I've only been on the F. (25mcg) for 3 days, and off the Methadone for the same 3 days, the back pain is addressed but nothing is touching the hip pain still - or yet. I don't readily notice any bad withdrawal from the M., and I've been terrified of the M. withdrawal, I still nonetheless feel horrible. Not quite 'withdrawal horrible', but I can't keep my eyes open, cant think clearly, am an emotional wreck, and just can't think straight. It's scaring me to death. I try to ignore the negative, but the positive just won't stick. Is this normal? Am I going to feel this way for a long period of time? I am completely alone in this struggle and would really appreciate any advice, any co-understanding, and/or any communication on this subject. Please?

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I'm going through that at this minute. I'm anxious to hear of any of your replies. Thanks for lletting me 'step' in

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Fentynal is worse to come off of than oxy. Watch urself

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I'm on a 100mcg fentanyl patch and coming off a seven year addiction to methadone. Tell me how your withdrawal was being on a patch coming off methadone, please

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omg mike! please dont ever cut a fentanyl patch.when you do it will cause the opiod component to be rapidly released into your system.yes unfourtunatly some people do that to get high but it can cause death.also combining any two opiods has its risk but taking methadone and the patch at the same time is a recipie for disaster....especialy if your trying to become addiction free.that was a smart choice asking for the mylan patch!! its always important to make sure your doctor knows all the meds you are taking.just a friendly tip...if your truly attepmting a sober life you shouldnt hold on to that many patchs because of the temptations!oh and one more thing.dont take norco to help with withdrawl symptoms...that is yet another opiate that can cause addiction.good luck

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I think y'all are crazy to use fentanyl to get off methadone....I've been on both and detoxed from both and I thought I was gonna die when I detoxed off the fentanyl....I went cold turkey and by the second day ended up in the hospital...I took the methadone after that and cut a quarter pill off every month...it was painful but easily manageable.....the fentanyl on the other hand....that was pure hell....and I know pain! I would never again use fentanyl to get off anything! It is truly probably the most completely painfully miserable I have ever been trying to go without....if a person truly has no pain and wants to get off then clonodine is a great withdrawal symptom blocker, and methadone for one who genuinely has pain or just needs to go down nice and slow...but of the two I pick methadone anyday!

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