Unfair Insane Methadone Clinic Detox (Page 10)

I have been a patient at compdrugs methadone clinic for 5 years. Never had dirty urines. I got 1 dirty 20 days ago and they took my dose from 185mg to 100 to nothing. 3 days. Is this legal and do I have a chance of fighting it. The doc. Dr. Alvin Pelt. is god at the clinic. Any ideas on what I can do would be welcome. Hopefully i can figure somethisg out b4 I blow my head off. Anyone out there whos gone thru a methadone withdrawal understands. Thanks all.

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Wow, I didn't even have to read thru your whole message Mr. Hopeful b4 i agree as one of many patients at the st joeseph methadone clinic in nyc. I can attest that some counselors relish authority money unfortunately is the lifeblood of these institutions therefore they all are corrupt. let me elborate the situation. i come in 1 week the place is packed as usual, the wait is about 50 minutes, you get a number and wait. I finally get to the window and b4 they give me my medicine, this was weds b4 thanksgiving btw, they say you have to give a supervised urine now, but i just did that 4 days ago and ive been doin it for every week for the last 8 weeks. i basically peed in front of everybody in that f***in place. im emotionally affected by this then i get upset and say no i wont do it, so i have to talk to the supervisor. fine ill wait some more even tho my husband is there too waiting to leave for work which everyone knows he works. I get upset and leave. my husband convinces me to go back. I say fine ill give the urine but the supervisor still wants to see me after. After i expose myself to someone else that works there i give it in and go back upstairs to see the sup who i find in a room with the counselor. they say explain what happened, i say i gave the urine i got some water so i could pee. see the problem is ive already done so many supervised urines i dont kno what is going on. i feel demeaned and degraded and ive been clean all this time. my counselor tells the sup that im lying and the nurse called her up personally to tell her that last weeks urine was not supervised. i said that it was. My counselor told other lies like i was absent on friday but the last urine i gave was the 18th which was friday?? So today at the window when i was getting medicated i waited until i got the nurse from last week and just asked her if she happened to remember calling up my counselor and telling her my urine was not supervised that day. of course my nurse remembers and she said outright your counselor lied to you. i never called her up. in fact i wrote your urine was supervised in my own handwriting in the log which means my counselor didn't even check, she just wanted to hurt me?? Call me a liar? Demean me? I need to and will make steps to get off this program.

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I just wanted to say that my clinic will raise your dose whether you want them to or not in fact my dose was 95 at one point and they kept saying my urines were dirty if you get 2 dirty urines in a row they raise you 10mg and they test you every week on demand and like i wrote before money is the lifeblood of all institutions hence they are all corrupt.

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I've been at a methadone clinic for 15 years and they are beginning to be a joke , they do what they want they will steal your money if you are late paying your fee they will charge you $ 5 dollars late fee for every day your late , the clinic I go to is not very big we only have the capacity for about 50 ppl but we now have ver 250 they don't have enough seats for all no restrooms but they keep taking in new clients every week twice a week I need to find out who keeps all the late fees and if they can keep operating a clinic like this

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I know this is old but they kicked me out after i had takehomes for 2 years. I was at 239. I wanna die. I went back to h for a few days then got some subs. Now I am being "medically" detoxed for taking xanax a handful of times and then biomed will let me back. I also broke my back so that's great. I am in soo much pain and 32 mgs subs a day isn't cutting it.

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Are you out of your mind buddy? Just because someone's dose is over 100mg doesn't matter. Everyone is different. And being in a program for 5 years isnt a bad thing either. I don't know what planet your from but most councilors will tell you that for however many years someone's been addicted it usually takes at least half that many in treatment. Most nurses at the clinics will also tell you that from 65mgs to about 90mgs people are high from their dose. I've been to a few clinics in my lifetime of addiction and thankfully am clean going on 6 years and never heard someone say anything so stupid as I just read in your post. I know for a fact that there are aweful clinic directors who do stuff just like what happened to this person. Actually know someone who was attacked by another client from behind and was thrown out. So I believe it when I hear stories like this 1. You are a ***** if you think no one should have a dose over 100mgs. No 2 people are the same and some people's body metabolism go through methadone quicker than others. Ever hear of a peek and trough?? Its a test to see how fast the body eats the methadone. I myself am 1 of those people who's body went thru it faster than normal. Which meant every morning I was sick. It took me until I got to 165mgs before I was finally comfortable with my dose. You have no clue what you're talking about. You probably aren't even on methadone. You sound like someones family member who hates the idea of their family member being on it.

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contact the Methadone Alliance in your state, you most definitely are not to be brought down that quickly, only if you were under contract for being dirty numerous times, which doesn't sound to be the case. file a grievance asap

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Yes you can claim, i've been on methadone for 10 years and know what's what. I won £3800 for not getting mine. If you're on a script and you are put through a forced withdrawal it's the equivalent to assault, you can claim. Listen to experience.

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They can give you a mandatory detox 21 days any thing other then that get a legal aid lawyer ,If any thing happens to you they are responsible don't signh any papers

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Not fricken much. I switched to subs. I go once a month now. Do 1 group a month. I dont get the pain management benefits from subs i got from methadone but I have a lot less stress in my life. I got my life back. The clinic doesnt own me anymore. Thats 1 option for you.

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I'd like to know,too. I got kicked out of a clinic on 80mg with a godlike doctor two weeks ago. I'm now hospitalized cuz of severe withdrawal symptoms

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I'd like to know,too. I got kicked out of a clinic on 80mg with a godlike doctor two weeks ago. I'm now hospitalized cuz of severe withdrawal symptoms. I went to three ERS before getting admitted as I needed to be. My normally low blood pressure went to 187/133 and stayed

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Omg!!". That is insane. Federal Regulations for OpiodTteatment Programs can be downloaded and printed. Your program is in violation and liable for your relapse if one occurs. I'm experiencing control issues and abuses of authority at the program I attend in Albany. I contacted the Justice Center of NYS as well as the compliance unit and the Executive Chief Officer of the program. I won't stop until I'm heard and heads roll. My life is not a toy and the physical pain of detox is not something to take lightly. When we stay the course and fight for our rights we see results. Don't give up until you are heard and someone is held accountable for their gross misjudgment and violation of proper protocol. Send letters to governors...assemblymen...etc. Put an article in your local newspaper. Contact the Legal Action Center in your area. Keep me posted. I'll keep you posted as well.

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Exactly I feel The same way I am on 210 and only been on over a year and this morning they said that I've been dumping my methadone in trash .B.S I WOULD BE SICK..And got no dirty U.A ..I MEAN COLD TURKEY CUT ME OFF WHAT OR WHO CAN I TALJ TO I WORK FULL TIME AND GOT MY OWN PLACE I DON'T WANT TO LOSE WHAT I JUST GOT AFTER A YEAR.OF BIENG CLEAN. ANYONE BUT THE THAT GUY

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Ok, before I start I just want to give you a quick summary of my situation..


I'm a recovering heroin addict who has been on & off for around 14 yrs. During that time I have also been to several methadone clinics in Houston, TX so I pretty much know the in's & out's of how these places are suppose to work. My girlfriend & I have been 2 yrs clean (excluding methadone) from everything and have actually been doing really good. We both have jobs to keep us busy, and pretty much have everything on lock. Here is where the problem lies.. We have been going to this clinic for about 8 months now, and everything started off fine. Never failed any UAs. Always paid. But they recently started losing a lot of patients due to the clinic no longer accepting medicade, TODA (State funding), etc. Meaning the only people who are left pay in cash (they don't even accept debit or credit). Anyways, the past 4+ months they have been hounding everyone daily for payment, & continuing to tell us to "zero out" every week. We both get paid bi-weekly so we end up paying every other week as we also have other bills to pay too. This is nothing new. We have been paying like this since we started. We have never let our debt get over $140 ($70/week) & zero out after every two weeks, but the director has started threatening us saying that if we don't paying weekly she will deny us not only our take homes, but our daily dose as well. Now I have been to probably around 5 or 6 clinics in the Houston area, & have never heard of someone being denied a dose over payment issues. I understand that they can taper (administrative detox) you off over a certain amount of time, but to just straight up not dose you over a payment just does not sound legal at all. So my questions are...

1) In the state of Texas is it illegal to deny a patient their dose? If yes, does it differentiate between a payment issue, substance abuse issue, anything else, etc?

2) If they choose to taper you off; what is the legal amount of time in which they allow you to do it in? (Ex. A week? 2 weeks?)

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

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I've been on methadone at a clinic I've had complications since I've been on it I was on 100 mg worked myself down to 55 an now the dr has ordered fast detox taking 5 mg away from me a day idk what to do

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The methadone program my daughter is on doesn't seem to want to let her get off the methadone. My daughter hates it and has tried to get them to taper her off of it and they never let her go below 30mgs before giving some excuse as to why going any lower would not be a good thing to do at the time, and then they make her raise her dose back up. She is CPS involved and it is required that she follow the recommendations of the program or it's a black mark against her and her child could be taken. They get funded for every person on the program. If a person gets off the methadone and off the program, they lose the funding for that person. Do you see where I am going with this? They get these people off heroin and and on to methadone, which is synthetic and worse to get off. The withdrawal is way worse than heroin!! Once these people are on the methadone, they do nothing to try and encourage or require them to start tapering off.

They can stay on the program as long as they want and nothing is ever said. But now my daughter has been tapering off all the way down to 30mgs, and they coming up with reason after reason as to why she should go back UP on her milligrams!!! I would not believe it had I not witnessed all of this myself and watched my daughter go through this. I always thought that the methadone program was there to help people get off of heroin and help them to ease with the pain from the withdrawal but it doesn't seem to be about that at all. It seems to be that they just get them off of heroin and hooked onto their synthetic form of heroin (methadone) and will keep them on there for life if they want to be!! Why would they take them off of one drug and put them on another that is worse, by far more addictive, and by far worse to withdraw from? I can't believe that it's legal!!! How should it be legal? Looks to me like it's nothing but greed behind a very evil program. The program is evil, that's all there is to it. Their intentions are not good. It's all about the almighty dollar and they don't seem to care too much about the people that they are profiting off of.

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I've been a methadone patient since August 3 rd 2016 I've been tryn come off it but the clinic got mad once I made it to 50 mg they took me infront the dr he said I failed treatment an kickin me out lol an said 5 mg per day away til get to 5 mg he said I'm sorry to do this to u but ur gonna b sicker then hell!!!!! I finally got it to were they're taken me down 5 mg once a week but lol jus til I get to 30 mg then they supose contact the dr?! Idk wat to do cus I'll b sick Comn off 30 mg rite?! I'll either be doing that or let them put me on sub lol but for one thing that'll throw me in worser withdrawl from wat I hear so pls someone help me!!!!!! Thanx.... Oh I was on 100 mg my second month in the program an now 50 mg well suppose take me down to 45 this morning I coukdnt taje methadone regardless cus I'm haven reactions an lots of complications on this evil drug including weakness dizzyness tremors low bp irregular heart beat off and on and nausea!!!!

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Yeah we got one of those types in RI. His name is Dr.John Strauss. He's from North America but got his education at a Caribbean diploma mill called SABA. He then became a Naturopathic Specialist. Naturopathy is recognized in 16 U.S. States and is basically a dietician. Cash flow got low since he's a SABA certified M.D. now works as medical director in a methadone clinic. Also is a suboxone doctor though he may have put that on hold.for now. He's petty and is kind of a slime trying to set people up. Doesn't respect his patients.

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JasonR

I know this is VERY VERY old but wow you are unreal!!! Its ppl like you that make it hard for ppl to seek help. You did NOTHING but make this person feel less then and like gum stuck to the bottom of your shoe. You are nasty nasty nasty. Why even bother to reply if all you intend to do is be a jerk. Which is me actually being nice. Damn ppl like you literally make me sick!!! Shame on you for saying those things. No one ever stood up in class when the teacher said what do you want to do with your life NO ONE ever says I want to be an addict!!! So to sit there on your high horse thinking you are holier then thou when you are actually the worst of the worst is mind blowing to me!! Pls do us all a favor and get off this platform,you my dear are in for some wicked karma and sad to say but you will deserve every little bit of it!!! Smh unbelievable!!!

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Re: Amy (# 8)

You are a unsympathetic JERK!
Who do you think you are anyways?!?

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