Tris Hydrocodone-acetaminophen 10/325
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I’m SUPER conserned because my pharmacy has switched from the yellow Qualitest Norco to 2 different brands I must choose from: Tris Pharma & Lupin Pharma. They are 10/325 Norco. I have Trigeminal Neuralgia, fibromyalgia, back surgeries in past and I’m told in future. I can’t stand the idea of being in pain all month. Any advise on which brand to get? I have been given the white Watson brand and the other white ones that say M367 (I think it’s a 7 at the end) they were 10/325 non the less. The Watson brand was ok but the M367 was like taking nothing sometimes. Please help me decide. Those are the only brands I can find. I am so afraid I’ll be in pain all month like I was with the M367 and Watson brands.

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Re: Maddie (# 4)

Please everyone file complaints w the FDA in these new norco they changed then and they no longer work tris. It is sickening I saved a few pills from prior month and its night and day difference. PLEASE file complaint w FDA y need to call your pharamcy and ask them for the ndc and expiration date on bottle first and if they say they dint have your bottle tell them to give u the current bottle. Something weird is going in because I made a complaint w tris directly too and they lied saying they did not change anything. Now unless they r up to no good why would they lie about it?this has ruined my life I cant work anymore w no pain relief . Evil evil evil. Please tell everyone to make complaints w tris and w the FDA. It's the only way they may be investigated.

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I have gone to Walgreens for years to get my pain meds. After discontinuing Watson for a few months they finally brought it back only to discontinue again and now they carry Triss brand. You want to see how awful that is, look up the letter the FDA just wrote to them a couple months ago. They're about to go out of business because there's no medication in their medication. Anyway, I can't take anything other than Watson or name brand Norco (which is super expensive). So I decided to call around to see if anyone still carries Watson or could order it. I don't know when they started this but you can now no longer even call and ask pharmacies what brand of generic they carry. You have to come into the store, show them your prescription and THEN they tell you no. I drove to at least 10 pharmacies today and not one carrying it anymore. An indie pharmacy (who are able to order anything) told me it's not even on a list as available to buy. I'm so tired of this! I cannot function without pain meds. I have a hard time functioning when I do have them between my herniated discs, neuropathy in both legs and feet, lupus, carpal tunnel, arthritis and messed up sciatic nerves. Now I can't even find them. When I went to Google to read Triss reviews the only thing that came up was articles on how pain meds will kill you and how to quit taking pain meds. Ugh. I've never abused my pain meds. I generally take less than my prescribed amount. But without them I wouldn't be able to work. So frustrating! I guess I'm back to spending a fortune on Norco.

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I'm in pain. Management have been 8 years I have stenosis I've took every pain meds available but my pain has always been intermitten days I only needed one or two others you might need 4 the ones didn't take I put up for a bad day cause honestly I hate having too take pills well pain management found old prescription in my urine now they are punishing me only giving me half of what I need with age Mr stenosis is worse I give up man darned if you do darned if you don't awful how real pain people are suffering what the docs done prescribing to people who don't need it damn I give up.

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Re: Bettynaily (# 28)

I actually telephoned Abbvie, in February 2018, the division of Abbott that produces pharmaceuticals in Chicago. The FDA site and my pharmacist both indicated that the Vicodin Name brand (said VICODIN ES or Vicodin HP on each tablet) had been discontinued. I asked if there were a substitute now being manufactured since that formulation had been prescribed for me for many years with no increase or side effects and the quality control seemed superior with no dyes or variations on reported checks. I have allergies to certain dyes and additives and am very careful.. I was told that there was no replacement being made and that many generics had been too competitive. I merely talked to customer service, I had called about 2 years prior regarding if it interacted with any thyroid med etc. That pharmaceutical corporation is exceptional in consumer relations. There was a reformulation in 2014 publicly made known. It merely lowered the amount of Tylenol (acetaminophen in it) by at least 50% since overdose of Tylenol can damage liver tissue. The active ingredient (hydrocodone) remained the same. It now says "discontinued" on the fda.gov website. My privately owned pharmacy didn't tell me until December 2017 that it had been discontinued but had been available for a few more months after it was discontinued in the fall from its supplier. I assume it was sold until the current supply was gone with none being made any longer. If you need to pay $300 even with insurance, perhaps they are surcharging for the last batch. The telephone number for ABBVIE/ABBOTT is online. I am only aware of other companies providing the same chemical compound in generic form. Some posts refer to them as" Brand" with a company name but it is a generic made by that company. If you know that the Abbvie company is making an exact substitute, please post that. Their quality control is superior for all medications in reports. One can view any recalled medications over the years on the FDA site, Thank you.

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Re: Karen (# 17)

You are absolutely correct in your post. I was a domestic violence victim with 5 surgeries and a titanium joint in my lower arm. It is inserted in either end into damaged nerves and "excised bone". I actually go to a "Pain Center" every 3 months and the physician electronically sends the prescriptions for three (3) months to my pharmacy. Nothing is changed or prescribed unless a patient goes to the actual physician. No one prescribes but the doctor. There are NO nurse practitioners, or physician assistants who are involved in the visit except for the U/A. They are professional and CAREFUL. I am certain that specialist would recognize any recreational abusers. Other patients I have seen there, have problems as described in this chat column and most are 50 years old plus. I have always used a private pharmacy for medications since they deliver. The pain center does a U/A each time there is an appointment. Every patient must submit. It is a shame that we who have pain and "damaged parts" or any other injury, congenital or otherwise are confused (how? I ask) erroneously with recreational abusers. I CONSIDER THAT AN INSULT. I have a limit of lifting 5 pounds with my lower left arm and "no repetitive movement" or the joint may loosen where exposed and inserted. Thank God it was my left arm (totally unexpected assault at age 53). I do resent not being able to play the piano for long periods of time........which is one of my great loves. My physician is a doctor of anesthesia at a specific pain center. Abbvie discontinued their "generic Vicodin" which was specifically prescribed for many years.

My injury occurred in 2001 and I was an in-patient several times for that injury. YOU ARE CORRECT! There is a definite difference how our bodies absorb anything made by different manufacturers. It is the inactive ingredients and not the active. I am allergic to penicillin and to vancomycin (reaction of raised rashes in a hospital setting). After being prescribed the Abbvie manufactured medication (Abbott) for many years, I was dispensed an equivalent of one by Boca that made me violently ill, headache, nausea, and urethritis. (First time in my life). In 17 surgeries, I have never become ill from anesthesia or any pain medication as an in-patient or out-patient. My pharmacist dispensed Tris next. That pharmaceutical, for my body, comes closest in pain relief with no lethargy or side effects, just like the Abbvie. It does not last as long but dissolves properly. Tris is thin like an extra strength Tylenol tablet, but must not have any ingredients that make me ill. However during this sub zero winter, there were days I merely had partial pain relief and literally did next to nothing. NIGHTMARE: Actavis made me deathly ill, having little if any, pain relief. If there were any pain relief it was surpassed by headaches and feeling nasty flu-like symptoms with incredible nausea. I finally realized it was the medication. I had ovarian cancer prior to my injury and was told by my gynecologic oncologic surgeon that I have a high pain threshold when after having an epidural in my spine prescribed for 24 hours, neither the nighttime pharmacy technician, nor oncologic surgery nurse knew how to program the computer in the middle of the night when the next 8 hours of med was to be attached to the system.

I rejected a hand pump that was to be pressed all night? Ridiculous?......... This was about 1 am after 8 hours of surgery and the recovery room took 13 hours to get to my room. I was given oral medication, a step lower for post surgery of that severity (a laparotomy with removal of all female organs and removal of innumerable lymph nodes). How imperfect pain management is, even at a university teaching hospital. (hospitalized twice the second for 6 nights and 7 days). I am typing this because medicine and pharmaceuticals are NOT perfect. That was a controlled surgery. This damaged arm pain is everlasting. As I age it has become more arthritic. The pain center physician even ordered an x-ray after having the records from my 5 surgeries, therapies and electromyographies and photographs from the ER (taken by an ambulance). I do not want to take anything stronger, but it is my experience that different manufacturers are not absorbed the same into each person's body. Our genetic codes are different. We do not all have the same genetic codes. Therefore we do not all have the same body chemistry. That would be assuming we were all clones, same height, eye color etc, (simplistically). I read the fda.gov site for the names of all companies which manufactured the medication (generic chemical compound as described). Yes the active ingredients are the same.......... NO! the inactive ingredients differ, and even up to 20%, government approved. I learned that the "inactive" ingredients may differ by as much as 20% by reading and checking with the FDA site.

People have sensitivities to dyes, and to other inactive ingredients. The FDA site indicates Actavis "VOLUNTARILY" (without being required), recalled some medications. Obviously, the Abbott/Abbvie pharmaceutical medication was perfectly quality controlled. Each batch when analyzed was uniform. I have read and learned by reading that generic batches, when analyzed vary and have a mean allowance for variation before being rejected. Also, all generics with the same active ingredients (generic compound name) do NOT have the same inactive ingredients or same amount of inactive ingredients. That appears to be significant in how each person's body absorbs the active ingredients. I do not know if the active ingredient can be lower but I did read a recall on the FDA site by a company recalling medication that was too strong. I hope that helps. This entire medical climate that endeavors to relate a patient suffering from chronic disabling pain in any way, shape or form......... to a recreational abuser should be DECLARED ILLEGAL! Shame on anyone in the medical community who would do that ........Like a person above posted.....those persons should experience disabling pain for 24 -48 hours before making decisions that affect the quality of another human being's life. This may sound ridiculous but.....years ago my veterinarian told me that my dog after knee surgery had a lower pain threshold than a human. How would he know, I politely asked. He was neither a neurologist for animals nor people. I returned with her crying. Whatever happened to the word "human" in humane?

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Re: vinny (# 37)

Spot on! I emailed my governor/senator (Georgia). There is so much more going on!!! We are all being played & lumped together!!! It's horrendous!!!!

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Re: Stump (# 3)

what is the name brand for norco10?... People who have cronic pain are being swept with the opioid epidemic. They need to come up with a solution for people who need to take this pill for better quality of life. The people like us in pain take it responsably need it to live better not die

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Re: Bettynaily (# 21)

Totally agree! I am very sensitive to meds and the change to Lupin as started them up again and does not cover pain well either. CVS says they have no choice. You would think after all of the complaints they could for something.

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Re: Monty (# 2)

Totally agree! Having the same problem with Lupin and CVS.

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Re: Maddie (# 4)

Theres a big differance, this they only took out the yellow dye is a bunch of bs.I been taking for 6 yrs and now i have to double up an still not happy with the results

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Do not get the lupin brand made me sick heartbeat was messed up exhausted feeling literally felt like I was losing my mind and did nothing for the pain

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I'm off norcos not going back it was hell get off them i go pain management Monday low dose morphine not as bad norcos hate it but my pain bad can't take edotolac acid reflux came back so got no choose prayers please

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Re: ann (# 19)

The lupin brand hydrocodone suck, do nothing for pain and make me feel like s***, tired all the time. The yellow pill with the V on it worked best for me.

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Maddie (# 15) -

Yes doesn't it seem odd to you that they're worried about junkies abusing hydrocodone and overdosing and dying and they keep quoting the number of overdose deaths. Junkies are going to find their overdose whether it's this or something else. But I don't see them regulating cigarettes and alcohol which the government makes money off of due to the taxes. Compare the number of drunk driving related accidents/deaths, alcohol abuse-related deaths, lung cancer/second-hand smoke deaths, but nobody is regulating this. The big companies that make the spinal cord stimulators and the implant things that they make a ton of money off of who would do good to not have pain medication so available - I wonder how much money they throw at elected officials for their campaigns. He will give you all this money but we want this in return.

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Re: Bettynaily (# 28)

Yes cvs does. Been getting it for a year.

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Re: Maddie (# 5)

CVS doesn't carry any brand pain medication. I checked with Walgreens and the brand Vicodin the only one they carry is $300. Evansville Indiana

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I urge you all to report your experience to the FDA! I’ve included the link below:

fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch

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My September and October precriptions of Norco 10 from Walgreens was very weak I went into withdrawals thats when it was all over the news about people being addicted im a chronic pain patient degenerative disk osteo my hip stenosis I was taking 3 a day doing fine manage my pain tell me why did I have to suffer for those who abuse the drug

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Re: Lynn (# 22)


Never heard of that brand of norcos

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Re: Bettynaily (# 21)

Yes, I've been itching to death! But cant get another refill till next month so I've been taking zyrtec for which has been helping.

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