There Is A Natural Supplement That Will Help Withdrawals Tremendously And It's Legal (Top voted first)
UpdatedTry this its changed my life, it's called kratom and it's available at most adult and head shops the dosage is at least 5 grams but it works better than anything that doctors have given and you don't need to worry about trading one addiction for another , it's a natural opiate so for people who aren't heavy users this stuff will make you feel as though you have taken loratabs.its just overall a safer way to kick a bad habit .If you are a heavy user don't give up if you don't feel the opiate effects the first couple of weeks because you will eventually plus it will help the withdrawal immediately.
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Check out Bikhuk kratom. They give you very helpful information and explain what each strain does and there prices for the amount and quality you get are incredible! Best part not only is it legal but because it doesn't bind to your neuro receptors the way other opiates do it doesn't show on a drug panel of any kind. I believe when GOD makes something he does it right and He tells us all things he created are for our pleasure and benefit. i hope you give it a try, I believe it will help you with pain, depression, anxiety, fatigue and will just make the things you enjoy to do that much more enjoyable, however one warning alcohol and kratom just don't mix so be sure it's been at least 3 to 4 hours before you have any alcohol. Best wishes also if you would like to ask anything personal I don't mind answering to you just respond and let me know. Best wishes to you
Thanks Tammy ! I will check it out. I live my life helping people through titration from pain meds especially when doctors get them hooked and then take it away criminal and in humane!
Hi Tammy, I've only read about kratom on other message boards and for some reason they were bashing it for being Bad, I don't know why but now I'm curious. And will look it up. I'm not saying it's bad as I've never hears about it. Its most likely a natural opiate that does not pass the blood brain barrier? I never see people talking about it much but" " amodium "works in this way. Of corse you can now get it over the counter, but long ago you needed a prescription for amodium until they figured out,that although it is an opiate it doesn't pass the blood brain barrier therefore no euphoria. Getting high on it is impossible, however when you ingest it withdrawl symptoms are eased emensley because even though it doesn't reach your brain it's taking care of the bodies craving. The biggest problem with amodium is that it is for diarhea, and you need to take high doses of it for it to work therefore causing bad constipation, but when somebody is in full withdrawl including running to the bathroom with cramps and the big" D" it works very very well. Thanks for the info. I will check it out.
Just an FYI to those seeing a pain management specialist with help getting off of or reducing opiates. Although completely legal in almost every state in the U.S including Colorado where I'm from I was dismissed today as a patient from Metamorphosis a Pain Managment Clinic in Colorado Springs and Canon City Colorado for having Kratom turn up on my last two drug panels. However I brought in my Kratom at my new patient visit and told them I was using it to help ease withdrawal symptoms from incredibly high doses of Fentanyl and Oxy. They said nothing to me about it being cause for patient dismissal during my first appointment nor was it mentioned on the compliance contract that I signed. Also when it showed up on my first drug panel nobody said anything to me at all about me not being allowed to use it. Then today when I showed up for my appointment I was told since I had "failed" 2 drug panels (keeping in mind it is 100% legal where I live, I even contacted the DEA just to double check I wasn't doing anything illegal and they confirmed Kratom is NOT a controlled substance) they were dismissing me as a patient. I was NEVER told I could not use Kratom, not even after the first drug panel showed it in my body or when I told them during my new patient visit I had been using it. I started out at 200mcg of Fentanyl every 48 hours and up to 13 30mg of Oxycodone PERSCRIBED!! Upon discovering how severely over prescribed I had been I made the decision to come off the Fentanyl 100% not my Dr! I have also greatly reduced my Oxy intake to 15mg twice a day. I'm in a great deal of pain because of this decision (I'm on disability) and the withdrawals have been hell. However I had made it down to 75mcg of Fentanyl every 48 and was due to drop down to 50mcg today when I was instead dismissed out of the blue. I was given a script for a few days of 25mcg of Fentanyl every 72 hours and a couple days of Oxy. No other withdrawal support meds to help either. It took me THREE MONTHS to find and get into this Dr and I've been given less than a week to find a replacement. Something I will be having to do while again experiencing withdrawals (something I am VERY sensitive too). I've been working to get on a safe dose of pain medication since DECEMBER 2015 again by my choice! I'm at a loss as to what I should do now. My cousin who was recently placed in a similar situation died from an accidental overdose after attempting to avoid withdrawal by taking street drugs....four days later a close friend also died from the EXACT same situation! I believed these Dr's were here to safely help us while on pain medication and when trying to come off of pain medications. Unfortunately I'm hearing of more and more situations like mine, my cousin and dear friend all as results of the help these Dr's are providing! We are constantly told of the danger of pain meds and those who die from them but we are never informed of the situation behind these deaths. There are many wonderful Dr's out there who truly put patient care and safety as their number one priority. Sadly I've not been lucky enough to find one in Colorado Springs. I fear ending up another statistic especially since I that was exactly what I was trying to avoid in the first place. But patients being forced into the position I was forced into today are left with little recourse then to try and self treat and that's where accidents and deaths happen. Had I been informed when I told my new Dr I was using Kratom to ease withdrawal and pain I would've stopped immediately but that's not what happened, they continued to allow me to use this supplement that I found out about on an opiate withdrawal help website, having me believe it was ok. Then still not saying anything to me when my first drug panel showed Kratom in the results, only to dismiss me at my next appointment with no warning or NOT EVEN ONCE informing I would be dismissed for using Kratom even when I brought it in and showed them exactly what Kratom I was using at my new patient visit. I would greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions anyone may have, although I have little faith there is anything that can be done in time to help me.
From what I've researched, companies who sell Kratom legally are required to state "not for human consumption" (even if it really is safe) - just to abide by the strict laws and regulations surrounding this plant.
What state are you in? I'm in WI, and local head shops tell me Kratom is now illegal for them to sell here. Do you know if it's possible to get it legally online? I've been on & off Fentanyl patches for yrs. Chronic pain is an issue, but the withdrawal from patches is much worse. Anything that can help is a godsend. Thanks.
@Di,
To my knowledge Kratom is only banned in Indiana, Tennessee and Alabama. Despite the DEA taking steps to ban Kratom nationwide on Oct 1st, their efforts haven’t succeed (at least for now).
Having taken Kratom on & off for the past few months, I can see how it may be a godsend for those in serious pain wanting an effective natural alternative to the synthetic pills created by big pharma.
The only side effect I've ever experienced was moderate nausea for a few hours because I took too much on an empty stomach. So I'd say it's wise to start off light and slowly up the dose till you find what works best. (A level or plump teaspoon is my personal therapeutic dose range).
I also find some of the best web-based vendors to be KratomOne, Kwikkratom, and Kratom Therapy.
Red Vein Bali strains tend to be my favorite for alleviating pain, anxiety and feeling an overall sense of wellbeing. Though many people with an active lifestyle also like the green strains for a sustained/mellow ‘pick-me-up’ similar to coffee, but without the racing heart and jitters.
Kratom is a botanical finely ground into a powdery consistency made up of many different "strains" the 3 main ones ate green vein, red vein and white vein. As of right now the DEA and members of Congress are at war regarding the fact if it really has medicinal purposes or not and I can attest...it defiantly does. As for pain, red vein specifically RED VEIN BORNEO, RED VEIN THAI, RED VEIN MAENG DA are your best options. They should be coming to a consensus any day now, but as far as I know it is not banned or illegal in most states. I know of a very reliable online vendor who sent an email today stating they are still selling because it is still legal. Most good online vendors have stopped in the meantime but one of my favorite is AuthenticKratom.. they are out of California and if you order by 12 or 1pm west coast time it will ship for free the same day. I live on east coast and if I ordered now I would have it in my mailbox by Friday from California. So if you are interested I suggest you try them ASAP before things change and they decide to make kratom a schedule I drug which is complete BS. but so far it's looking like it may not be..but you CAN ORDER NOW...
Gee Tammy, right from the website...
Our kratom is not sold for human consumption.
Re: Never (# 6)
Get into a methadone program. It's the best drug for pain and you will feel comfortable. A Xanax a day with the methadone and you will be feeling groovy.
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