Taking Small Suboxone Doses After Stopping Oxycodone

I took my last Oxycodone on Saturday. I've been taking 30 mg for 5 years. How long would withdrawals last if I take tiny pieces of 8 mg Suboxone? How long will I need to do this so that I don't get sick? Thanks

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I have a great deal of experience with induction phase of subs. If you are on Subutex you can start as soon as you feel a little sick. But make sure you have gone at least 24 to 36 hours. Since there is no Naloxone in Subutex it is not like subuxone, Start with a small piece of sub try that and see if you get relief. If you are ok take a little more until you feel straight. Subutex is alot easier to get on then subuxone so make sure you are really sick or you will go through Precipitative Withdrawal Or Hell as I like to call it. Remember, less is more and the oxys will stay on those receptors for a good 3 days so make sure you are sick. Not just uncomfortable but sick and start small. Good luck if you have any more questions just post I check back here often to help people avoid the HELL.

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Re: Gratefull (# 1)

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. So far so good. I get my next script on Saturday of the oxys. I hate that it's getting to be too much worrying every month. It's scary and my nerves are shot. Idk but thank you for your advice.

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I've been on Suboxone going on 6 years..I hate it , it feels harder to quit then the pills I was addicted to.. I'm taking 2 of the 8-2 mg daily..I was on 120 a month now I'm on 60 a month, I've tried quitting but it's super hard, the restless leg and the flu feeling of you don't have anything in ur system.. Just be careful they are just as addicting as pain killers

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Re: Gratefull (# 1)

Hello, Does Subutex help control pain? What is the benefit in changing from oxy to Subutex if you still have pain? I have been on 7.5 for many years and it controls my pain very well. I have recently left my long time pain management Dr for a new rheumatologist because my PM Dr. wanted all his patients to get on Subutex and go to his rehab clinic. ( very expensive) I was with them for 14 years and never abused my medication and in fact had lessoned the does over the years. I became very suspicious and left the practice. Is this now the new scam? Sorry, Im just so conditioned to be skeptical of these Dr's using us.

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Don't do it very long week at most cuz box are way more addictive. There is no way you can really stop taking that strong of a pain killer for 5 yes an not be sick but it only last 1-2 weeks just sprinkle in a little bit of box every other day or something and you should be okay in a week or two but whatever you do don't get addicted to box it's way worse than what you were on

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Hello,

If you are going to stop taking the oxy's and you want to start subs I guess that is what Box is. I have never heard of the term. LOL. Please wean down on the oxy's and make sure you are sick as hell and then try little amounts of subs. Subutex and Suboxone both have pain killer properties. They attach themselves to the same receptors the oxy's do, so if you take them too soon they fight each other and you get Precipitative Withdrawal. These drugs are highly addictive. I have kicked methadone pills, heroin and have tried to get off subs 3 times. Impatient. They almost killed me. Just remember, less is more. I have been on a high dose when they first came on the scene but now am on 10 mgs. I have had every brand they make. I never noticed a difference but people will argue that point. Good luck to us all. Thank God I have a great Doctor.

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Re: D (# 4)

Hi, I just want to share that this All has to do with the FDA and it's new war on opioids!! Letters have gone out & conferences are happening now to try and educate them to see it their way!! And now all Drs and clinics, even our own veterans are being denied pain medication/management they truly need!! I'm witnessing it all around, a 77 year old woman cold turkey, taken off what she's needed for years, and she was in very bad health, many back surgeries and rod in the back, just because the FDA was coming down on Pain Mgt he dropped her & others. She couldn't live with pain, and committed suicide!!! My heart is still hurting for her!! I'm in recovery. I've been in several rehabs, and they didn't have subutex or suboxone!! The 1st one I was put on methadone because of heroin. But not the others, I went thru hell. I've had 8 ortho surgeries since 2013, so I have to take pain meds, I'm very careful, when my pain starts to ease Dr starts withdrawing slow. But when he takes me completely off, I go to my primary and he helps with a small amount of just buprenorphine, 2 mg. I start with half of 1, and usually I feel good again after only 9 or 10. It depends on how much you want it!!!

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Hi. How long do I have to take subs before I am ok? Started with little pieces of an 8mg sub. Been on oxys years. I don't want to get addicted to these subs too. I'm only taking these not to get sick from the oxys. Thanks.

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Thanks for getting back to me. I need the advice.

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Re: Gratefull (# 1)
I have been advised by two close friends who have taken Suboxone and they advised me to try to titrate down off of my opioids first because just stop taking opioids and start taking Suboxone is like replacing one addiction for another addiction. You come to a state where you are no longer addicted to opioids but you become addicted to Suboxone. What is your feed back?

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Here is my feedback:

No matter what you are taking, your doctor should give you a medication that is one step down from the drugs you were taking. For example if you were taking oxycotin, your doctor should give you hydroconone so you won't go through horrible withdrawl symptoms so you don't end up in the hospital. If you are taking hydrodocone your doc should give you percocet, and so on.

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Re: Stefany (# 3)

I was warned by two people that I know that taking suboxone in place of, say hydrocodone/acetaminophen is just replacing one issue for another issue. I want to stop taking the hydrocodone/acetaminophen 7.5 but when I try to titrate down from the 4 per day that I am prescribed I can get down to 2 per day for about 1-2 weeks and can get no further without feeling really uncomfortable. This is the only thing that I have not been able to stop on my own. You are correct. When you replace any other opioid with another opioid you are just trading either dependence or addictions. If I can find out a complete answer I will respond back.

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You shouldn’t haven’t started u til you felt sick. Taking it before that will actually put you into pre-withdrawal which is the worst of the worst. I took 80mg’s a day, got off and withdrawn for a week before I started Zubsolv. Took that for 2 weeks and I’ve been off of it ever since!

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Take Kratom Powder, it’s a God-send for peeps in your situation. If you tapered correctly, you could probably see you’re way through it, but will need either social &/or physio support like that which Kratom provides. Stay hydrated, and do some kind of aerobic exercise, as well as stretches: good luck!

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Re: Stefany (# 3)
This is what my son, who has had five back surgeries, said. He said basically “the cure is worse than the disease”. He said to him it was like replacing one addiction for another. He finally quit completely and has been clean of all opioids for over a year. There are many options because what may be successful for one person just won’t work for another person.

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Re: cliff j (# 15)

Yes you could say that you are replacing one addiction with another BUT what is the lessor of the 2 evils. With subs you can titrate down gradually and when you get to the end or down low. Communicate with your Doctor and get a mild benzo and something to sleep. Stay Hydrated and force yourself to exercise and stay positive. All of these drugs are difficult to get off. If it were easy we would all be just fine. But it ain't so. Everyone is different and some swear by Kratom but that is a crapshoot as you don't know what you are getting. Sorry Kratom lovers, I am happy for you all but it is not for me. And why bother to take an opiate. I have a great Doc very important to the overall plan. He is also a Medical Cannabis Doctor; and it helps with all kinds of issues. We are all addicts so One day at a time!!!! Good luck to all.

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Re: Grateful (# 16)
I have done most of the things that you have suggested and I agree. I will not take Keaton for the very reasons that you posted. I have so far resisted taking Suboxone or Subutex because it has been suggested to try and titrate down from what I am taking.

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I've been on Suboxone for over 5 years now,I was also hooked on oxycodone, I don't think even if you take the subs, it's still really hard to stop them as well, as a matter of fact I've heard and also felt it's harder to kick the subs then it is if you wing yourself off pain meds.i would check myself into a rehab and go that route it's really hard and dangerous to just quit any of those kinds of meds, please consult a Dr. First

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Re: Grateful (# 16)

I am getting tired of the "spell check" included in my program. I thought that I typed "kratom" and it posted as Keaton. I KNOW I did NOT type that word. I, as I posted yesterday, will not try "kratom" because of the quality issues. Is the "kratom" you get pure or is it made with ingredients that are not disclosed? Maybe if I can find a reliable source I may try it.

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Re: cliff j (# 19)

Same thing happened to me. I typed the word darvocet and it showed up in blue as percocet.

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Re: methadonehater (# 11)

Percocet is oxycodone which is stronger than hydrocodone. Hydrocodone is Vicodin.

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Re: Bon (# 8)

That’s not how it works though. I mean you won’t get sick from not taking the oxy because you are replacing them with the Suboxone but you are going to get sick when you stop taking the Suboxone and then withdrawals take much much longer to get through that if you just quit the oxy. You are making a grave mistake if you are doing it to avoid withdrawals.

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Re: Stefany (# 3)

You are not wrong for thinking that. I took Suboxone after years of taking pain medication thinking that would be an easier way to stop taking the pain medication. Even after slowly weaning off the Suboxone over six months (I only took it 6 months) I still had withdraws for weeks. Later on in life when I was in an accident, and had to take oxycodone for years again, I did not do the Suboxone when I stopped taking the pain medication. The withdrawals were so much easier and faster, they were gone after a week, but the third night was the worst. Once I got past that I was significantly better. I will never take Suboxone again. It’s such a scam. It’s probably helpful if you are abusing your medication and you’re having cravings because I think it stops the cravings. That wasn’t my situation though I was just trying to avoid having withdrawals after years of pain medication and it only made it worse.

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I’m not a doctor, but I took Suboxone after years of taking oxycodone thinking that it would prevent me from getting withdrawals. Then I went down off the Suboxone over six months before stopping that I can tell you for a fact that withdraws were worse and longer coming off the Suboxone then they are just coming off pain medication. When I stopped taking oxycodone after taking it for years with drawls or over in a week, the third night is the worst but once you get through that it’s significantly better with Suboxone, it took more like a month.

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Re: Gratefull (# 1)

But, she didn't mention Subutex. She asked about Suboxone.

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I hear you. I need to get off all of this stuff. I have RA and alot other problems but this crap every month I can't stand it anymore. Thanks for replying

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Re: w John (# 25)

Yeah it was. I took it in 2005 and back then not many people around here used it so I didn’t have anyone to tell me what a bad idea it was.

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Re: Optimistic (# 23)
When I wanted to stop taking my pain medication my Doctor suggested Suboxone. I was told that in that case the cure was worse than the disease.

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Thanks for answering. Appreciate it. Both drugs suck

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Just don’t.
I thought suboxone would prevent withdrawal sickness, which it does while you take it, but when you quit the Suboxone you get a month of sick instead of a week of it.
This medication is garbage and I don’t know why people take it. You’re just delaying and multiplying your eventual withdrawals.

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