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I have a T 194 yellow pill that says it's a percocet 10mg, but when taking it, it made me feel super weird and my chest hurt. Is this a possible side effect?

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JMJ (# 158) --

I let my doctors know that I changed pharmacies I also let them know that Walgreens had changed companies that they were getting their medication from and it made me very sick I was very honest with them. when you do it that way it's not considered jumping companies or Pharmacy hopping or what have you. I am very open and honest with my doctors. I try to let them know if something is not working for me be it a pharmacy or something that they are giving me. I find that that works best for me and usually when I give that advice to other people they seem to find it works best for them also.

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Re: FibroFighter2 (# 20) Expand Referenced Message

It's all about money. They could care less about the customers. Ever since the government has stuck their noses into our medical affairs the people that actually need them are suffering. I know there is a problem with overdoses but the bottle is clearly marked. Why do I have to suffer because someone else abused them? I have taken pain relief meds for my back for 20 yrs and I still take 3 a day but since this all this stuff on TV and pressure being put on your Dr and this new stuff they are selling I've actually had to take 4 sometimes 5 to get any relief.

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Re: painpt2 (# 149) Expand Referenced Message

I understand fully what your are explaining! Kmart has been my pharmacy for almost 6 years (when I originally prescribed pain medication & anti-depressants) they have always treated me with the utmost respect, never made me feel uncomfortable & always had my medications on the day each one was due to be filled. In addition, my generic Percocet was a round light yellow color & worked well for my pain. Now all the Kmart’s are closing. Right before they closed one of my other prescriptions which was always a small pink pill, one month suddenly was a white pill. I didn’t notice until the day after I picked it up & opened the new bottle when my other bottle ran out. I was immediately set back & thought perhaps they’d accidentally given me the wrong pill? It was early morning before the pharmacy opened, that was the first time I used google to research a pill. Boy was I shocked! I read the first 40 complaints about how ineffective my new medication was & many had written the pharmaceutical company and the FDA about the medication & none received any response! When Kmart opened I called the pharmacy mgr (who like you have, I had gotten to know & feel comfortable with over the years) he assured me the medication was “the same & simply a different company & not to believe what I read on the internet” so I took the medication the entire month. It was indeed ineffective! So the next month I took only that prescription to W & explained to that pharmacy mgr how Kmart had changed pharmaceutical companies for that one medication & it did not work for me. He had no issue filling it for me. (Oh & first I went to CVS where they refused to do it!) After about 4 months of doing this, I was out of town & didn’t return home until after 9 pm when that Walgreens was closed so I took my prescibtion 9 miles down the same road to the 24 hour Walgreens, they filled it but that locations pharmacy mgr is the one who rang me out & apparently he looked into my entire prescription history (I had been 100% honest with the other Walgreens about what & why I was doing what I was doing!) he very sharply informed me I could no longer fill this one prescription at W because he noticed my other prescriptions were filled at Kmart. I tried to explain to him exactly why I was doing this, just as I had explained to the other W pharmacy mgr! Kmart & a contract with a new pharmaceutical company & the pharmacy mgr there could not simply order my original brand! He did not care & told me I could not fill at ANY W! Wow!!!

Now, regarding these particular Percocet, I switched to a local grocery store & I don’t receive these but I also don’t receive my Percocet I received at Kmart for almost 6 years! My new ones don’t cause all these side effects however, I’m 100 % positive my new medication is NOT as effective & wears off much quicker!! I talked to my psychiatrist about this (he doesn’t prescribe my pain medication but I wanted to discuss if this was possible “in my head” and not true fact!) he assured me this issue IS NOT IN OUR HEADS! ALL GENERIC MEDICATIONS DO HAVE DIFFERENT FILLERS & MOST IMPORTANTLY & SHOCKING TO ME, ALL GENERIC MEDICATION CAN LEGALLY BE UP TO 20 % LESS ACTIVE INGREDIENT AND STILL PASS THE FDA & YOUR LABEL WILL STILL READ 10 MG even when the active ingredient may only be 8 mg! This makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU TAKE PAIN MEDICATION EVERY 4-6 HOURS AND EACH DOSE IS 20% LESS ACTIVE INGREDIENT (and has different fillers!) You can even find this information on the FDA website after you search it, you will find this information printed very small!!

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Re: Michelle (# 163) Expand Referenced Message

Thanks. I know it's not "all in my head." And it's not all in yours either.

Tonight I received a phone call from an out-of-state area code & a number I didn't recognize. It was some woman asking for me by name. I'm always leery of these kinds of calls & asked who was calling. She replied she was calling on behalf of "W" to inform me that on 3-27 my prescriptions from "R" will be transferred to the 24-hour "W" up the street. I told her I was aware of this & how I hate "W" w/ the fire of a thousand suns for them closing down this "R" location which, until last week, everyone working there had been told would remain open, just rebranded. (I wasn't rude to her. I just stated my opinion. She hung up.) Last week they were putting up the posters announcing the store is closing on 3-27. The two full-time pharmacists w/ whom I've had a relationship for nearly 10 years still don't know where they'll end up. One is the pharmacy mgr at the "R". If she & the other pharmacist are "assimilated" into "W", particularly if they're sent up the street to the zoo that's known as the 24-hour "W", do you really think she'll still be a pharmacy mgr? She sounded very worried. She's been at the same store for 16 years.

On a note (related to this whole topic), they ordered & received the former generic "brand" of Percocet they filled my script with a couple of times before filling it w/ this worthless yellow T-194 junk a month earlier. It's not great, but at least it helps some.

I still intend to check w/ my doctor about having something compounded.

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Re: painpt2 (# 164) Expand Referenced Message

The t194s I notice you use the "W" sometimes and the "R" sometimes. Now the "W" could be Walmart but when you say "W" bought out "R" I think you are referring to Walgreens not to be confused with "W"almart. "W" did buy some "R"s but not all "R"s. Some "R" are not "W" yet but are starting to sell the worthless t194s that make most people sick and don't relieve pain. Sometimes the "R" and the "W" are confused by people with speech impediments. Like I threw a "W"ock at a "W"abbit but you can never change the "W" and "R" in that case. In that case the "R" will never become a "W". The first amendment allows you to say Walgreen's perks sucks or Rite Aid's perks suck. Now "W"almart's Mallinckrodt 10/325 perks beat out most of what's on the market. Now Mallinckrodt's Adderall generic sucks. Doctors want it taken off the market but Mallinckrodt filled a lawsuit. Even though the FDA knows it's no good they cant take it off the market till the lawsuit goes to court. By that time they can make $millions off a worthless drug. So I'm saying the FDA f...n sucks. They don't protect people till a lot of people die or suffer a lot from bad drugs.

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Re: Michelle (# 163) Expand Referenced Message

You are 100% correct. Using us experimenting with our health behind our backs without our consent FDA & Gov’t indeed have changed the 20% reduction in percocet/generic effectiveness...ie; 10mg=8mg also adding harmful filler’s making us sick to detour effects of the effectiveness of petuitary gland production of good feeling endorphine/seratonins.

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MEJANE; all pain meds - The FDA isn't requiring Pharm. Co. to list what has been added to pain meds in fear of someone finding a way to remove it, or how it has reduced the effectiveness of pain meds. Pain meds only help with about 20% of pain relief. It's the ability of the brain to change the feeling of pain to a good feeling, that is what helps make life worth living to someone in pain. The government doesn't want people in pain to feel anything but pain. Some people are looking for a way to KILL themselves or someone else because they are mentally ill and their families want to blame it on anything but mental illness, God for bid that. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, people in pain aren't responsible for them.

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Re: nomas (# 165) Expand Referenced Message

Sorry, some forums don't allow you to mention specific stores or companies. Apparently that's not a problem here.

W = Walgreens
R = Rite Aid (which was recently bought out by Walgreens)

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Re: nomas (# 165) Expand Referenced Message

I so agree. I do think the fillers have much to do w/ the effectiveness of many drugs. My mother had to get the name brand Toprol b/c none of the generics worked to help regulate her heart.

As for Mallinckrodt, the short time (last few years of her life) she had to take anything stronger than a 200-mg ibuprofen for pain, she found Mallinckrodt to be the least effective. Personally, I had the same experience w/ Mallinckrodt's versions of Norco & Percocet. I thought theirs were the worst. I just hadn't encountered Camber's version yet! Rite Aid filled the last script w/ Rhodes which is okay. At least, unlike Camber, it helps some.

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Re: painpt2 (# 168) Expand Referenced Message

"She" being my elderly mother. Sorry for the confusion.

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I just read an article that when the blockers were added the all opioids that a panel of all men were used for the trial. Now after a study was done with females they have discovered that the blocker used to block opioids from male receptors does not work on all females like it did on males. So now they are considering making his and hers pain pills alone with the make up of each individual too. It also stated that more women were prescribed pain meds than men, now I didn't know pain had a preference . Now don't that take the hair off a rabbits back .National Pain Report site

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Re: nomas (# 171) Expand Referenced Message

Nomas, I just have to say, I love your posts!!! First, they are informative, second, you always have a way of saying something that cracks me up into a good laugh and to me, laughing is always good medicine. This study you read, so I'm presuming that the woman pills are now the ones that both men and women want cuz it's those that have the non binding fillings. So how do we separate the males from the females? hmmmm, it's the male's pills that have all of the bad stuffing blocking the opioid. Oh dear, now they are going to have to go back and spend another boat load to figure out what type of fillers need to be added to the female pills to stop them from working, don't want the males to get their hands on the female ones, can't have a pain pill that actually takes away the pain and doesn't give you horrid side effects. If we all start growing long ears and fur all over, I guess that pill would be the result of messing around too much with the chemistry of a good thing. So all of my friends, welcome to the bunny patch!

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Re: LaLa (# 7) Expand Referenced Message

I also received mine from Walgreens and it makes me itch and makes me nauseous and doesn't work as well as the A333. I asked the pharmacist about it was told the A333 had been recalled. No sympathy from him.

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I have been on Percocet for almost 20 years and have been given most of the generics in that length of time and while I have noticed that I prefer the pain relief that I get better from some than others, nothing I couldn't live with or would ever complain about.

Went on February 12 to get my refill and was given the Camber. Of course I noticed the color right away but having never had any major problems with generics, I had no problem taking them.

OMG!! Took them for about 48 hours and started getting pains in my stomach. Not cramps but pain. Then I would get nauseated and vomit like I had trouble getting to the bathroom in time so started carrying a bucket around. Not much in the way of pain relief either. That was the very first thing I noticed. I went thru a full pack of 30 Zofran in 16 days which in 20 years I have NEVER done. I have been in withdrawals before and this wasn't like that for me. I was shaky and weak, just sick, terribly sick. I kept telling myself that it wasn't the pills and kept trying them but after 10 days, I googled it and realized that I was not alone. By the way, I called Walgreens about day 4 and told them I never wanted to get this brand again and they told me they would note on my profile that I was to be given Activas only.

I could not get into to see my Doctor til the 28th and wasn't sure what she would say but since this had never happened to me before I was hopeful she might be able to help. She decided to give me enough Hydrocodone to get me thru til my next med fill and told me to make sure they ordered the right meds for me. She is always so good to her patients. She really cares. Of course the Hydrocodone is not as effective as Oxycodone but hey, I wasn't sick so I got thru it fine. It took about a week for me to feel much better though.

Filled my script today and they did order the Activas and said with 2 days notice that they can do that each and every month from now on. I am feeling pretty good that that will happen. If not, I may need to find something else to take or change pharmacies which I would hate to do after being there 17 years.

As far as changing pharmacies goes, my doctor says all they have to do is fill out one sheet of paperwork and have me sign it to change. The few times that I actually had to use another pharmacy because they didn't have enough to fill my script, I just had to call my Pain Management doctors office so they could notate it in my file.

Not to the poster who thought if we just gave it time that our bodies would adjust is just wrong. Having made lots and lots of med changes over the years, I know that is true with lots of drugs. You do have to give your body time to adjust to the new med. That is not what was going on with the Camber. I felt like I was being poisoned! I mean it really was that bad. I was existing on 7-up and crackers and not able to keep a lot of that down at times either. I was freaking miserable and I NEVER want to see another one of those Camber meds as long as I live!!

When I asked the pharmacist if there were other complaints about them she said there were lots. Maybe they will stop stocking them if people quit buying them. I don't know but when I got home this morning I took a dose of the Activas and within 2 hours I felt pretty normal again, pain relief, and even able to take a nap. Tonight I feel like my normal self. Those meds are bad news. Did I mention they made me deathly ill? LOL!!

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Re: n2braves (# 174) Expand Referenced Message

I too, love my Walgreens but had to stop going there since January because of the Cambers generic that made me sick. I then started going to Rite-Aid and got the Rhodes small round circle pill that I don't care for either but it doesn't make me sick like the Cambers.

So Walgreens was able to order you the generic percocet Actavis? I would love it if they could do the same for me. I will ask them. But I need to take generics because insurance won't cover brand, or they will, but at a much higher copay.

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Re: painnnn (# 175) Expand Referenced Message

I have had Rhodes in the past and just about everything else and NEVER had them make me sick like that. Yeah, that's another reason I would hate to leave Walgreens. They are always so good about ordering in what I need and try to do the right thing. The Actavis I picked up yesterday cost me around $30.00 so must be true generic. I also checked my insurance and they paid like $5.00 so the full price was around $35.00.

The pharmacist here said that she would certainly be able to order the Actavis for me from now on. I hope there isn't a problem in the future but one can never tell with the way things are in the world today. All I know is I will never touch another Camber product and while I don't post very often, I couldn't help myself because if I can keep even one person from going thru what I did I want to do that.

It was truly amazing how I felt after just a few hours of being back on the Actavis brand. My pain was controlled, no nausea feeling and I will treat these things like gold! Anyway, check and see if your pharmacist can order the Actavis for you. If you are in an area where there is more than one Walgreens location, let me tell you that they can vary a whole lot from location to location. What one pharmacist and store will be willing to do, another may not. So don't give up if one says no. Hope all works out for you.

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Re: n2braves (# 174) Expand Referenced Message

I tried the Rhodes after CVS switched from whatever they had to Rhodes - Rhodes was awful for me (some worked, some did not work at all, and some were rather "strong") - never knew what kind of pill I was going to get from that bottle. So I switched to Walgreen's and the A333. The last couple of scripts I have received from them have been the yellow Camber pills and they have not caused me any problems - not saying they have not caused problems for others because I had issues with Rhodes the same way many have with the Camber pills. I know CVS told me they have no control over what is sent to them from their supplier and they cannot request other manufacturers, not sure if this is true or not but this is what they always tell me when I check with them to see if they still have the Rhodes brand. I fill my other scripts at CVS for asthma and for glaucoma, but I get the generic percocet from Walgreen's because they seem to be the only pharmacy in my area that does not carry the Rhodes brand. I am not sure if I just got a bad batch that time or if they are all "surprise" pills in every bottle, but I am scared to waste a monthly script on something and have it be a nightmare for me. If what CVS says is true about not being able to order specific brands, then I am going to guess that other chain pharmacies are probably in the same boat. Glad your store was able to order something for you besides the Camber. I wish these big pharmacy chains would stop switching the manufacturers all the time - unfortunately I don't think I can use any small independent pharmacies with my prescription coverage, but I know many have said that some of the independent pharmacies have more flexibility with getting something besides the same ole, same ole at the chain pharmacies.

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Re: zellie (# 177) Expand Referenced Message

I have been told the same thing about the independent pharmacies. We only have one here in town but that would be my next move if things don't work out at Walgreens.

We are all so individual so what makes one person ill may be great for someone else. All I can say is that if a brand makes you really ill, you will never want to see it again! And it used to be years ago, if you got something that made you sick, the Doctor could just issue you a new script for something else. Now that they cannot do that anymore, you would risk being without for the entire month.

This is how ridiculous these pharmacy rules have become. My husband has had severe bronchitis for a couple of weeks now and it just continues to hold on. He gets to coughing so bad at night it kinda scares me. He saw the doctor a week ago and gave him antiotics and cough syrup with codeine. The cough syrup has really helped at night. I called the doctor to let them know that he is still having symptoms so they sent out a different antibiotic and a refill on the cough syrup.

I always google any meds and check them out before we take them. It said doseage for age 12-adult was 2 teaspoons or 2 5ml every 6 hours. He was home from work so he took it that way. When he went to refill the cough syrup it showed too early to fill because the doctor wrote instructions on the bottle to say 1 teaspoon every 8 hours! So he can't refill til Monday. I thought about calling the doctor and pointing out what happened but he doesn't want me to. So he will suffer thru the weekend with OTC cough meds. It's like there is no common sense anymore. Not a huge deal but it's just one thing after another anymore. All this is only making it difficult for us who are doing everything legally. Ones doing illegal things will always find a way around the laws.

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Hello to all of my fellow pain sufferers. I may not write in on this thread every day, but I do read this thread almost everyday. My heart goes out to all of you. I went to my pain management dr yesterday, lol management, I tried to explain to him that it's really messed up when the patient has to walk on eggshells to discuss pain and how big red flags go up if we even mention the dirty four letter word DRUG, and how the anxiety level goes up just walking into a building knowing that you may be walking out without a prescription. HE told me that my condition should not be giving me this much discomfort. Hmmmm, 5 bulging discs in the neck, one of those is smashing up into my spinal column, one disc in the middle of my back is severely bulging and also smashing up on spinal column, failed spinal fusion, L4-L5 chronic sciatica. Happy happy joy joy. He said that my depression is causing my pain!!! I said, well maybe if I wasn't in soooo much pain I wouldn't be so darn depressed. He actually asked me if I was going to forget if I took my pain pills and overdose! I couldn't believe he said that. Of course we all know about the ga-jillion people out there overdosing due to forgetting that they took their pain meds. In my opinion, if you're that forgetful, don't know how to manage your meds, you need help and should not be dispensing your own meds!

My pain dr also told me that I was lucky to be getting any pain medication, due to the new government rules. Yup that's our government. Maybe next time I get sick I will go stand in front of the big White House and ask for help, cuz the way I see it, if you are disabled and need pain pills to function, your dr no longer gets to make those decisions. Yup, he told me that the government has issued new ways of treating pain!!! Un-freaking believable. What has this country done? I feel like we live somewhere other than America. It's ok for people to drink alcohol and kill, it's ok to buy guns when you are on antidepressants, it's ok to kill yourself smoking cigarettes, how come they don't take the alcohol out of alcohol??? How come they don't take the harmful poison out of cigarettes? How about making people that want to buy guns go to a clinic that puts them through scrutiny and looks down on them for even mentioning the word gun? Seriously, I'm so fed up with being treated like a criminal and to tell you the truth, I worked a prison, they were treated better and with respect. I appreciate that I have this thread to vent. My prayers for a better day, for all.

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Re: n2braves (# 176) Expand Referenced Message

Thanks for the reply. I will call my Walgreens to see if they can order me Actavis. You said it cost you $30 to refill? Was the cambers generic also $30 to refill at Walgreens? I am due for a new refill next Friday so am unsure if I want to even attempt to go to CVS at this point since I went to Rite-Aid the past 2 months and don't want to appear I am pharmacy shopping, which sucks. I shouldn't have to feel this way but I do. I totally get the anxiety in filling meds which is BS!!

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