Subutex / Suboxone Withdrawals (Page 2)
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Surely I'm not the only person reading in shock and disbelief. How is it that so many people are unaware of the basic facts and information regarding bup. I am reading in horror that woman are trying to detox during pregnancy. That is the worst option - it is risking both lives. I also read a question regarding the effectiveness of mixing bup with methadone. Anyone using these meds should know it causes withdrawals, that's the point of bup. I feel lucky to have drug treatment services that are free but able to stand along what is provided to private patients. It's horrible to think of pregnant woman on bup having to come on here to ask for info and not telling their dr in fear of judgement or welfare. What is up with a woman thinking its an option to detox at five mnths preg.? How doesn't she know she is risking both lives? Addicts have and always will be stigmatized society frown upon us, but i want to get ppl thinking and talking, why are woman making the choice to risk the health of their unborn baby rather than tell the dr they're on bup, all addicts who choose to engage in. and show consistent sustained compliance desrve a chance at rejoining society and pregnant woman deserve unbiased healthcare. I am still feeling sick from a post i read,a woman 8 mths preg asking what she can do she was already hanging out and cant get more bup for 12 days, a reply stated that the hosp prob won't give her any. I wanted to shout i was reading it days too late, how doesn't she know her baby is gravely ill?

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I'm in southern Maryland and finally found a pain management dr that IS NOT AFRAID TO PRESCRIBE THESE! It took me almost a year to find a compassionate Dr who actually cares about his patients! Do not order on the internet! You will most likely get ripped off and only receive "look alike drugs". I know Richmond is 80 miles from where my doc is here in Waldorf, add 70 miles to that and you have 150....which works out to about a 3 hour drive. I don't know about you, but I would gladly make this trip once a month for much needed pain relief. {edited for privacy}

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I know all the info about the drs.overprescribingbut as i said i am NOT an addict just need percocet or oxys occasionally so i can still function on a daily basis &i dont need many.going to florida to get them is not an option so what else can i do????

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I ,ay be in the wronv section but anyway. My dr had prescribed. Percoset or oxycodone for my severe back pain . i am not an addict &i need these pills to have a functional life &now all i can get is tramadol which dont work, i may as well be eating m&ms, i am located in easren va,, 70miles south of richmond .does anyo?e know a dr that would give me theres? I only need 10 to 20 a month for days my pain is bad.any help much appeciated cause im seriously considering trying to order some on line but dont know how safe that would be .Help Please!!!!

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No,it won't. ...they are both opiates, thats like saying that if you take a percoset,than take a vicoden, you'll freak and go into withdrawal. ..not gonna happen.

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ADDICTIONISANILLNESS: And how! I had those precipitated W/Ds from doing subutex too soon and O MY HOLY HELL!!!

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Hi ash,

Just started 8mg Subutex today. I paid 44.00 for 90 8mg!!

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It's so sad! I'm not sure which is worse but clearly the Doctors have to give her medication even if it means going to get it daily! God that poor baby and we adult cry from withdrawals poor baby

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Subutex or "bup" most certainly causes withdrawals! Buprenorphine has a higher affinity than other opioids and as such will compete for the receptor and win. It will "knock off" other opioids and occupy that receptor blocking other opioids from attaching to it. If there is enough Buprenorphine to knock the opioids off the receptors but not enough to occupy and satisfy the receptors, withdrawal symptoms will occur!

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NANCY: Because from the late 80's to the early 2000's, doctors were prescribing narcotics left and right. So now we have a LOT of pain pill addicts. And now there's a bit of a backlash with it all. Doctors are realizing what they've done, and are now hesitant to prescribe ANY. Apparently in Florida, you can walk into these "pain clinics" with a friggin HANGNAIL and get oxys. So try Florida! Sorry, I'm not making light of your situation, but the doctors have gotten themselves and their patients into this mess, and now it's a reaction to that. Don't prescribe ANYTHING!!

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Why cant i get any dr.to prescribe. narcotic pain pills anymore? They are the only thing that helps my severe back pain??????

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JEET: yes, suboxone has the naloxone in it, subutex doesnt. BUT, what they do for pain relief, what they do for the addicted brain, is EXACTLY THE SAME. the only reason there is naloxone in the suboxone is to keep people from using it intravenously. so when you say that they are "completely different", YOU are the one who is wrong. the active ingredient in both of them is the same drug, buprenorphine, so the phrase "they are completely different" is actually COMPLETELY INVALID. just totally off.

and by the way, it's not a good idea to make disparaging remarks about the intelligence of others, when you are incapable of forming a proper sentence.

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know suboxone,subutex has no naloxone in it suboxone does there's your intelligence.

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You are 1000% correct I also speak from experience.

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@jeet subutex is the brand name for buprenorphine. suboxone is the brand name for buprenorphine with naloxone added. the "active" ingredient in both is the buprenorphine. why do you think they are "completely different"? please try to come to the conversation with an intelligent addition next time.

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SAME AS ,SUBOXONE AND SUBUTEX ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DOCTORS WILL ONLY GIVE SUBOXONE NOT SUBUTEX,WHAT DOCT. ARE YOU SEEING?

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Did you take the oxy BEFORE or AFTER the buprenorphine? if you took the oxy AFTER taking the bupe, you would not have precipitated withdrawals. if you took the bupe after the oxys, then you would have trouble. but only if you took it too soon after the bupe. you arent very specific in your post about this. and by the way, i didnt have "precipitated anxiety" in any way, shape or form. i didnt "think i would be sick". I just plain took the bupe too soon after taking opiates. precipitated withdrawals are a FACT, and myself and many others like me know this. please dont dismiss what i/we have gone through as being "in our heads". if you take bupe too soon after full agonist opiates, YOU WILL GET SICK. this isnt something you can "make up" in your head. this is a fact. it has NOTHING to do with what a person "thinks" and has EVERYTHING to do with how soon a person takes bupe after full agonist opiates.

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Subutex and suboxone are the same thing, well at least when I got to the doctors it's recognized as the same.

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With all these opiate overdoses there is no doctors in fall river, mass. that prescribes subutex? They want everybody to go to the DONE. I WANT TO GO ON THE SUBUTEX; ALLERGIC TO SUBOXONE.

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I have taken Suboxone, the generic Zubsolb and Subutex and have actually taken Oxycodone and Methadone with all three. Never have I had preciptated withdrawal symptoms of any kind. HOWEVER, every body and brain is different. It also depends on tolerance, body weights, amounts taken and food intake. I do believe that alot of what happens is PRECIPITATED ANXIETY#! If you think you will be sick, you will. That being said, I am happy that I no longer need any of the above because of the cost and it just feels good to know that that part of my life is over. Good luck to you that are really trying, and dont beat yourself up, it takes time to finally be done with a past life and return to a future of hope again.

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It is true - wait wait wait before taking Sub of anykind after taking any opiate - just saying - some narcotics are out of one's system much faster than others - always best to err on the side of caution however with anything - again - Morphine, Fentanyl, methadone for sure you have to really wait while others do not take such a long time - just be safe and be careful

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