Please Help Oxycodone Pain Contract Questions
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Im new to this whole thing and i just desperatly need some advice. Im sorry if i ramble in this post im just really upset right now :(

Im 26yrs old and currently on a pain contract. I have taken 4- 20mg oxycodone a day for 5 years due to a severe car accident I had. I will try to make my story as short as possible. I would appreciate any help any one can give me:

Yesterday I went in to get my meds refilled, I was 8 days early which is 32 pills for me. I dont know what happend. I just know their gone so im assuming they were stolen . This is not the first time this has happend. About 2 months ago some one stole 6 pills from me (which i believe was my husband as he has done this to me many times) And i told my dr what happend and he still filled script with the strict warning that if my meds were stolen again hed have to dismiss me because it is my responsibility to keep them safe. After that 1st episode I bought a RX locker from walgreens that i keep in my purse wich is on me at all times, even when I use the restroom. Well so yesterday when i went in i was terrified to tell him that i was short again. I was trying to work my way up to it by telling him that i had been in more pain this month than normal (which i actually was) Hoping that if i just told him i had to take more for my pain that it would be better than saying they were stolen since he had already warned me about that. Well he never even checked to see if i was due and just wrote my script. I was so elated since itd been 8 hours since i had my last pill and was already starting to feel the withdrawls that i just accepted the script without saying anything. On my way out i asked if i could change pharmacys because i was worried that my normal one would hassel me since they knew i had just filled on the fourth, And that was the start to a disaster.

I dropped off my script at the new pharmacy and after waiting 40 minutes they told me that they couldnt fill it because my insurance said i already had filled this month. I told them i always pay cash when im early (which i always have) And they told me: If you can afford to pay cash for your opiate but not the others than maybe we should call the company and have them do a review because you can obviously afford your own care. I couldnt beilieve they said that! I didnt know that i was doing something wrong but i guess i was :( I told them that my doc said to call them if there was a problem, which they replied that it was there decision wether they even wanted to call the dr or not and they have the right to refuse service to anyone. I was so upset that i was being treated like that but keep in mind i was already in withdrawal and im sure i did probably look like an addict. After a very heated conversation i was able to get my script back and just take it back to my normal pharmacy. But by that time they had called that pharmacy and told them about me coming there. Well they ended up filling my prescription but only for 20!! And they wrote me a note on my prescription bag that said " your doctor said to fill only 20 and to make an appointment asap!

I am so scared right now i dont know what to do! I feel like he is going to dismiss me now. Why else would he make me come back in when i was just there yesterday and only fill me 20 instead of my normal months worth. And on top of that he is the only Pain management doc within 350 miles of me. I live in a remote part of alaska :( Not only am i scared to death of having to deal with my pain without meds But if i was only out of pills for 8 hours yesterday and started getting that sick then i dont even want to imagine what will happen if he just stops them. Im just so upset because I did not go over my limit and i do not abuse my meds, SO the only thing i can think of is that my combination code was cracked while i was sleeping :(

So I guess my questions are:

1. If he dismisses me will he atleast step me down off them or do they usually just cut you off cold turkey?

2. Does anyone have any ideas on what i can say to him when i go in on thursday to try and prevent this from happening? Any ideas would help

3. Do you think his intentions are to dismiss me? Ive seen alot of people say when they were dismissed that they were notified immediatly. So Im not sure what to think. I feel like he is because why else call me right back in? But then again he did fill that 20. I know it would only be speculation but id really like to hear what people think.

4. How long do the withdrawals for oxycodone last? and how severe are they?

Im sorry for all the questions Im just unbelievably stressed right and i feel like im goin out of my mind. I have a 10 yr old and a 6yr old at home and my husband lost his job so i am the only source of income for the house and i just cant imagine having to miss work right now due to withdrawaling not to mention i just dont know if im mentally strong enough to do that right now. Im in a crappy place in my life right now and i feel like my meds are the only thing keeping me sane. I just dont know what to do. Please help

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If you do you’ll probably be ok after a week or so. Just know the third night is usually the worst. Magnesium, Immodium AD, and sleep aids help. I would recommend weaning off as much as you can before you quit. It will make it easier for two reasons: the flu like symptoms won’t be as severe, but for me, the constant low grade “withdrawals” from weaning down annoyed me so much I was ready to be done before my planned done date, which was good because that left me some spare pills to keep for emergencies rather than taking them all to the end. The withdrawals aren’t like they portray them in the movies. It’s really not that bad. And it’s over in a week or so. Don’t bother with Suboxone or anything unless cravings are an issue. With people who take them for pain and not for “fun” I don’t think cravings come into play, and that’s really all Suboxone is good for since you’ll have withdrawals longer when you come off that.

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I am 66 on percocet and taking more than i should thinking about cold turkey and tired of depending on pain pil

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Hi, I've got bulging discs from C3-C6 and L3-L5, with the L5 pressing on the S-1 nerve root. I get trigger point injections of Marcaine once a month and I'm living on imitrex for my migraines and ONE 7.5 lortab a day. The key to feeling better and getting out of pain is to exercise. Go to the pool, it's the best and less stress on your body. You WILL feel better, I promise. My parents are on major Oxycodone and they do NOT exercise, they just lay there and talk all messed up. My dad takes 6 a day, and I'm sure they are 80MG's. It's killing them. They will die. My mom went from weighing about 135 to over 250 pounds. She will do nothing even though the docs have told her to get into the pool, go for a walk. She can't walk from one end of the house to the other without it wearing her completely out. She can't even walk three houses down to the mail box. Their doctors disgust me. If she won't do it on her own, for hecks sake, make her make an appointment at a physical rehab clinic three times a week and make sure she's doing what she needs to. Of course now with the weight, everything hurts. Her hips, her knees, etc... So, lets take synthetic opiates to get rid of the pain. NOT a good idea. I got rear ended by a semi in 1989. I'm still 5'4" 104 pounds and I'm 50. Please get off those pills yourself and get in the pool. Slowly go off, or you'll go through horrible withdrawals. My parents are always saying that each of them are stealing each others pills. What happens actually, is they take one, forget they did and take another. Anyway, I'm praying for all of you out there!! YOU CAN DO IT, but ONLY YOU CAN!! Much love and prayers.

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stop eating your meds like they're candy... you're not fooling anyone.... you're strung out and you know it.... now how can we fix this problem.... you're going to have to bring your husband with you to the doctors to verify that he also has pain and needs some pain killers. baddabing.... the doctor now has two strung out patients to pay him every month. tell him that your pain is very bad and tell your husband to do the same.

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Im sorry that so many things happen, when in so much pain. I have severe back pain, with no meds & it's beyond description. I have no insurance. I cant imagine, having my rx in my hand & either getting refused or shorted! Just wanted to support everyone. I no it doesnt really help, with the pain you face! God bless.

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It could be that he is just wanting to talk to you about your pain and manage your dosage. I go through pain management and I kept running out early because my dosage was not strong enough. I now take 3 15mg oxymorphone and 4 10/325mg percocet each day. If I run short or run out I go into withdrawals so badly that I feel as if I am going to die. My extremities will jerk, I can't sit still, my stomach becomes torn up something horribly, my head hurts. I feel like I am honestly dying. If I have to buy the oxymorphone on the street they cost between $60 to $140 for each pill. I was called ba k to my Dr. Office and I simply explained to him that what I was taking was not helping enough to control my pain so he increased my dosage. I live in Tennessee and the clinic where I go will call people and tell them over the phone if their dr's are not going to prescribe them anymore meds because most insurance companies will not pay for the visit if you are just going to be cut off. I hope this helped. Please whatever you do, do not allow them to put you on opana or oxymorohone this medicine does help control the pain dramatically but there is nothing else that will cause withdrawals this severe. This medicine was intended for people that are dying and never are supposed to ever be taken off of this drug but now dr's will give it to patients and I don't believe that they even understand how severe the withdraws are. You also build up such a tolerance so quickly and once you are taking this there is nothing any stronger that they can even give to you. These pills are much more addictive than coke or methamphetamine and the withdrawals can be so severe that they can cause death !!!

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The thing that bothers me about your problem is ...you are concerned about withdrawal and not once did I hear about your pain . I'm not looking to judge . I'm just saying ... I would be a hell of a lot more worried about my pain consuming me . And not worry about withdrawal symptoms ..

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I know this post is mad old but, people giving their doctors links to you tube videos on how it's possible to break into a RX locker or whatever?? I mean come on like your doctor wants to see this. Grow up and be responsible with your medication. These people are NUTS.....

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Actually, aprazolam (Xanax) is the most-abused benzodiazepine, because it's both strong and fast-acting (never had the clonazepam (Klonopin) wafers, it's a strong benzo and the wafers provide quick action). Lorazepam (Ativan) is a weak benzo, although it does come in quick-release wafers too (I'm pretty sure).

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I know this is an old post, but i just saw it. You really sound ignorant, and you are probably on some kind of government assistance for your drugs and magically aren't so destitute when it comes to pain meds. Your combination was cracked while you sleep? Come on. Are you married to Jason Bourne or something? Why don't you take responsibility and just admit you're abusing?

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My doctor offered me suboxone for the withdrawals when he cut me cold turkey off 40mg oxy and 20mg meth a day. I never got it.

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I'm sorry to hear that what you should have done first was to contact your insurance company they would have notified your local pharmacy .but your local pharmacy is only can refill your prescription within 48 hours but your insurance company gives you up to 5 day on filling meds. anyway when that happens then sure ins company will allow you one time a year for those mishaps but if you wanted to cash that shouldn't have bin a problem .the one issue is if your man to keep being missing like that your doctor might be concerned about a child getting a hold of those medications and now you're putting that doctors reputation at risk because pain medication is a real big thing now .anyway for the withdrawals get yourself to the GYM and go to the hot steam room and staying there a 1 hour everyday for 5 days that hot steam will detox you fast but you will need pain meds you must put your pain meds up where no one at all has and kind of access because you're putting your positions reputation on the line the police will visit his office . and then if a child the physician is thinking about 1children get older those Meds . Now you must understand pain meds don't kill pain the help people get from a to b that's why so many people get hooked because they don't understand that and opium give you the filling to wanting more .now if that really is the reason that you are running short my suggestion is when you first get your refills break a few down so that they will last that whole month

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Oxycontin has its own panel so if they didn't specifically look for oxycontin then it wont come up. Also perks and vice won't come up as opiates either

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Thanks, marti. I kindof thought that might be the case, but I know I never put the dentist's name down, in fact I changed dentists a year ago. You're probably right, I signed a global release. But the pain doctor also made sure I signed a release for my psychiatrist to discuss the use of Prialt in a pain pump (it's a psych med and like mar, I have bipolar disorder, so my psychiatrist does not want me on it). Why would he do that if he could discuss my medication with my dentist without a specific release? I don't need a pain pump so I'm going to stop going to this pain doctor and like you say, look at my records.

Next question: Do I have any chance of getting in with a new pain doctor? I want to go back on about 1/4 the dose I used to be on (20mg perc a day vs 40mg perc + 20mg meth). I like the ability to think clearly, and am willing to put up with a fair degree of pain for that, but sometimes it's just too bad. I'm holding out hope that this new neurologist I'm going to see in July will give me something without a pain contract, since I'm not needing so much (I have severe neuropathy and some sciatica as well as the back pain).

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Gregory is right, my daughter went to a new Dr because of her other Dr is just a PA she only said they prescribe vicodin, clonopin, an muscle relaxers she got dropped because since the car wreck she always gets migraines know its every day I have taken her to the ER 4 times this week and they helped her, this Dr she saw today gave her Ultram and temazapm and she just got 30 when her DR dropped her, she went to Albertsons and the pharmacist is new, and the people that know her and her situation, always fill what ever this guy said if she wants to buy out the temazapam which is a sleeping pill then he will have to call the police and have her arrested, I couldn't believe it, I told her to get the RX back and not say we are going to a different pharmacy but he gave it back and put in his computer not to fill till the 19th of July took her took her to wall greens and they said nothing and filled it, it is just the pharmacist, he just thought he was a big deal the cops wouldn't do anything it is a legit rx they have to give 1 more months worth of your meds so don't be worried. And like I said when you go tell Dr you are sorry but you are in a lot of pain I have been to pain clinics and they know if you are eating more, then you must hurt don't lie and say they are stolen cuz there not stupid, ask for something stronger that will last longer like oxycontin, or opana, that is a time released morphine, he may do it or she, good luck

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You have no idea what you are talking about! If a patient is on a pain contract they have a right to refill their cs prescription when they have used 85% of their prescription. Not, as you say, when due! This right does not guarantee the prescription will be filled though. If you happen to go to the land of ignorant pharmacist otherwise known as Walgreen's or CVS they operate under the illusion that they have intelligent pharmacist. Which is false! It is up to the pharmacist discretion whether they fill or not. They will lie about DEA regulations and many other things to try to lay the blame at someones feet other than their own. The truth is most of the pharmacist have no idea of the truth of the regulations they operate under. And like dummies they spout lies about things they really have no understanding of. Most likely when a pharmacist refuses to fill a prescription it's because they are either ignorant of the regulations or they just pick the regulations they care to adhere to. When a pharmacist says NO, lies are soon to follow.

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Well you should consider yourself lucky then. Here in the UK you get nothing due to risk of dependence, 'abuse' etc. Then the government moan about people being on welfare and using social services / NHS. You can't win.

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true nothing u can due because of the DEA and FDA getting together

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They are called Prescription Monitoring Programs. Some states have it written into their laws that before a dr writes a rx for a Schedule II oe Schedule III that the dr has to check the database for the last rxs the patients got filled. The info includes but is not limited to your name, address, the name, strength, and quanity of the rx, number of refills if any, the name and address of the dr that wrote it, if you paid with private insurance, medicare, medicaid, cash,

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Most States now have a controlled rx website. Now when ever you fill a controlled substance it's gets reported to your states pharmacy board. Usually pain docs, urgent cares and hospitals pull these reports when your chief complaint is pain.

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