Pain Medication Cut Downs (Page 3) (Top voted first)

Is it just me or is all the pain management docs trying to cut everyone down or back!!?? When I went to my last visit the doc had the nerve to ask me if I still needed my Oxymorphone 20mg ER (56). I was like YEAH, what do you think?! This is after they closed down for 3 months and I had to switch to Subutex to not get sick. And I got dropped from the 30mg oxymorphone. And by the way the 20'mgs are garbage. Then my doc asked me to get an MRI on my lower back, which I did the month prior. It just goes to show what a dumb ass he is and how they're so not in tune to what is going on! All they want to do is lower and lower your meds. Has anyone else had their doc try and taper them down or try and lower your stuff? By the way, I'm in south FL.

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Re: Beth (# 56)

I understand very well what you are saying, I just don't like to blame misguided to create political misdirection but enough of that ...... I know too well about the med cuts & i am directly effected by this & it sux ...... I was basically told i should not be able to walk .... (still walking) THANK YOU LORD but i was receiving 300 cdc directed mg of pain meds ...... I have been cut to 105 mg & they are still cutting ...... I never was without pain but I used to live a near normal home life. I could cook meals, clean, sew, do small projects & fix things when i was getting the higher mg of pain meds.

Now i have a hard time doing anything. I have not cooked a good meal for awhile (I live alone), fix a single item (when up to it) & that's the deal ...... I have been fighting to lose weight & was winning slowly but now my eating is screwed up ...... i eat more garbage food again for quick fix with least amount of pain (beef sausage, lunch meat, cans of prepared food - all bad as continued diet mainstay but easy to fix) ...... Not sure why the govt is forcing these cuts. I have posted that it's a way to sell more heroin since the gov't has control of heroin poppy fields .... and north & gov clinton did smuggle coke thru Mena Airport Ark ....for guns for contras .... timing is suspicious .... But maybe they know the govt is gonna have a shtf era causing a major supply disruption ..... Thus no meds available & cold turkey withdraw which sux ..... We are not addicts but that does not mean our bodies are not addicted........ i don't know ....... keep praying for us all and our vets & success of our country ...... be well all

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Re: Jen (# 66)

thx jen i am on 10/325 hydro codone for break thru pain they took my fyntinal 25 reduced to 2 - 30 morphine er now they reduced that to 3 -15mg morphine er & then they are going to reduce again to 2 - 15 a day & that will put me at the cdc 90mg a day eaquivilent ........ but the activas morphine seem useless ...... i need a good generic 15mg morphine that actually work ...... pharmacy said he had tevia 30 mg when i asked but when filled it was actually actavis ....never got anything activas made that help & its been decades ..... fortunatly the hydrcodn i get works well for me ...... thx again i hope your issues improve be well

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Re: PAINMAN (# 72)

WOW I am so sorry for what you have been thru and are going thru. I have had meds made by Indian Pharma "Zydu" worthless and from Walgreens. I don't use Walgreens anymore, only Safeway. I looked up the bust and yeah, ur not makin it up. I have wondered for a long time how all these Pain Pills got on the street. The Dr Feelgood stuff is still going on in FL. That's surprising in this day. I thought we had a ban on drugs from India. They don't meet FDA standards according to the FDA so what the hell????

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Re: Bobby C (# 55)

Great read ,why do they play god ,they think there winning war on drugs ha ha .theve created here in Aust worse problem with kids on ice or some other dirty crap some slimeball makes in his kitchen now they have real problem ,more shootings muggings robberies people walking around talking to themselves omg .and they were so worried about opiates ect. My friend an ambulance driver wishes it was like it use to be ppl were happy just cruising kicking back ,now its a problem.

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I would like to share a couple of things with the viewing audience:

I sent a comprehensive petition to the ACLU regarding the war on pharmacology. There response as best I could interpret was something like;

"We've no time for such frivolity! We are concerned only about promoting our democratic agenda!" Perhaps I was mistaken about the true mission statement for this organization!

I believe it was Benjamin Disraeli that said there are 3 kinds of lies:
1. Lies
2. Damn lies
3. Statistics

Statistics just like science in general can be perverted to best serve the author. It is my contention the data used to support the war on pharmacology has been extrapolated out of a political expediency. I'll go a step further by challenging the data against my version of objective statistical scrutiny!

It occurs to me that the dialectal in popcorn, and chlorinated artifical sweeteners are doing more than pharmacology to undermine our health. What about distilled and fermented beverages? My mother died from alcohol poisoning!!!!!!!!!!

No need for me to go into the governmental sanctioned tobacco industry! I don't think there exists a sole on earth that does not understand what we pay as a society for this NON-SEQUITUR!!!!!!!!!

In a previous life, I was one of those involved in carving out carcinomas, resulting directly from tobacco consumption!

It is indeed my privilege to contribute to this forum, and I thank those responsible, and the fellow supporters of the cause!

Best regards,
John from The Woodlands

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My 91 year old mo, in So Fla. needed a refill of her vicodin. Previously filled over one year ago. The dr wrote for 30 pills/no refills. CVS would only allow her a 7 day supply. My friend just had surgery last week. They gave her a super tylenol, no opiate to ease her pain. I am over this! Why do WE have to suffer for the actions of druggies. Thats's just what happening too. Dogs get treated better than we're getting.

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Hi sounds like same old story here in Australia,what gives them the right to play God? Modern medicine has been invented to stop people from being in pain,I'm 66yrs old pinched nerves in neck plus narrowing bla bla, it took about 3 yes to find out why I was getting disgusting pain in my arm all because of nerve damage it took a massage in Thailand to find out pain was coming from neck problem s,I'd been to at least 4-5 drs so called specialist here in Oz yet one poor old massage guy went straight to reason for my pain ,Just about impossible to get any pain relief , unless your wearing a suit and tie ( maybe )I wonder what they do for there pain relief,?good luck with it all.

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Re: focked (# 101)

Hey focked, what's going on? What problems are you having, getting meds? Would willing to try an innovative approach with this thing? The reward would be getting a pain mgmt doctor that would write you meds, if you're clean?

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Re: focked (# 103)

Well Focked, I really want you on my team so we can help other folks get their meds, and I think that's what you want. Stay close Brotherman.

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Re: Lizzy dizzy (# 124)

Lizzy, What I meant by saying you could work and have a normal life, was, that by being pain free and not having to concentrate on pain, that you'd be able to do anything you want. I'm 2 years younger than you, and I'm able to get motivated again and get work done on my farm. That's what I'm hoping you receive, the ability to live the life that you normally live :)

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Lizzy dizzy (# 132) --

Well, I've lost a few PM's and it can be as simple as, "It was just to tough driving there" or" My new insurance has more benefits"
Your most likely going to just have a form to fll out, so

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Re: Rawdog (# 149)

Hey mon, It seems this thread sizzled out after what appeared to be an interrogation, but it wasn't supposed to be that at all. I hope Lizzy Dizzy will pop in and say hi, cause we're not here to judge anyone. I hope you're doing well. Did you look into Belbuca? Since I was taken off of my meds (oxy, valium,) this is all I can get.. At least I have something to curb the pain..

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Hi, I do not know who is reading these any longer. I have grown so weary and for whatever reason my body has not responded to medications which are now coming from an implanted pump. I am angry and frustrated, why did I go through so much to receive so little if anything? I try to be positive and I guess that is why I have not posted. I can't for the life of me post anything positive. NO, I can think of something! While I feel tortured, I feel like someone does care and I thank you for that. It does not help the pain but to feel loved is all I am hanging onto! My car battery died. Could it be that I no longer drive my car much less leave my home? I sent a message to the person I know who has not deserted me and told him about my car. It was about 8 hours later and I heard this very familiar voice and immediately knew who it was. He had got my message and drove 350 plus miles to check on me and make sure my would start. He did not even stay; he had a doctor's appointment and a funeral to attend so he was back on the road within the hour. I do not know anyone who would do this for me or anyone else except him! I am holding on by a thread because he is in my life! He has never let me down and I am having trouble letting go because I do not want to hurt him!!!! (know that I deleted and am regrouping) It is like I said, I am in such pain and I no longer sleep, it hard to think positive.

I cannot see the doctors any longer without crying. I do not feel unstable. I feel like I said, weary and in pain and I do not feel like anyone is wanting to do what is in my best interest. I know my friend knows I am completely debilitated at this point; I know he knows this but he cannot find a way to get me help either. I have written you but you do not know because in the end it made so little sense that I deleted it, I have done this multiple time. I have promised myself I will send this one no matter what! If nothing else, it is a document describing my HELL! It seems as though doctors have been given immunity from prosecution as long as they withhold these medications but if they prescribe them and we either overdose accidently or on purpose, the law WILL prosecute them. Is this why I am unable to find help? No wonder I feel hopeless. It has been more than 6 months now since I had this damn devise implanted in me. I was expecting more relief than this! Somehow, I initially felt some jubilation as I thought I had made this remarkable accomplishment! I had come off 100 mics of fentanyl and other oral opioids as well as clonazepam which I took like a muscle relaxer. I was not sleeping until I had been awake for more than 24 hours but I assumed that was the consequences of taking clonazepam for so long and it would eventually get better.

A few weeks ago, I saw my primary care doctor again. I am no longer up for spans of 24 hours; they are well over 36 now. I do not know how my body even does it. So, like any other visit they took my blood pressure. I do not know who was shocked more. My damn blood pressure was 180/? They would not let me leave until they gave me something and I waited to see if it was going to work. My blood pressure now seems stable as long as I remember to take my medication. I have to log everything that I am now taking orally as it appears when we are not on a 16-hour routine with 8 hours or something close for sleep; this other clock also goes haywire. The doctor also gave me sleep medication but it is not helping! I am so convinced that these are all linked to not being able to get the medications that helped me for many years. I was about 45 I guess when they finally found broken screws after a surgery that continued to cause me pain until I was about like I am now. I will be 62 in a couple of weeks, if I can hold on that long. I would have looked for another doctor if I thought I could have found one that could have helped me. I would have never had this pump implanted if I thought there was any other options! Enough of this! I am going to look it over for errors and hit send. I hope you all are doing better than I am. Please know I am thinking about the lady who lost her love one to an overdose. She will know if she reads this who I am referring to! TAKE CARE ALL.

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Re: focked (# 170)

Hey Focked,I read your post and I sorta feel helpless to do anything for you. I wish I could as it sounds like you're not in a good place right now. The only thing I can do is try to ride out this storm with you. I'm glad to know you have a friend that seems like he must care about you to come all that way to check on you, so you mean a lot o him,and if I'm reading between the lines correctly, I think he would be devastated if something were to happen to you, as would your friends here on this forum.
It'shard to say positive things when you feel like crap, and no one is expected to post positive things in this forum that is based on how miserable life can be without the resources that make our lives livable, in this case our pain meds, cause everyone here is suffering with their demons everyday. I don't know what kind of insurance you have, and just wondering if there's any kind of care that you can receive from any insurance that would provide you with home visits or something of this nature. I recall you live in South FL? Would it help to have one of those services to take you to doctor appointments? They have them here in TN and it's so rural here and I don't have neighbors that I know cause we're far and away from anyone. I live in the mountains and anywhere I go to a doctor is at least an hour drive. My truck has issues as well, so I might be relying on this service more and more in the future.
Quality of life.. These pain management places claim to strive to enhance one's "quality of life" , yet at this point I'm just having a hard time with that saying. Regardless, I'm just not feeling it right now. So, you see, I'm not full of optimism, therefore I'm struggling with posting something positive as well.
I don't get how someone that's struggling as hard as you is having such a hard time getting some relief. I really wish I could do something to help you. I'm your age,and I'll be turning 62 in a few months, so I hope we can have more conversations about this, meaning I hope you will hang on and try to find a new reason to wake up each day.
Jack

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Re: Focked (# 158)

Can you get a ride to Sarasota Pain MGT/ They might be able to help you out.. Get with John w, I gave him the details, and I may be coming down there as well, so maybe we could coordinate this effort somehow..

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Re: Kurtiss (# 2)

Im in NY and I have not been cut down. I never abuse and never ask for refills before my schedule. I did have an incident recently when I actually threw out my meds. Ive always been open and honest and I was given my meds earlier. It was so awkward though.

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I’m in Louisiana and then doing the same thing it’s not the doctors It DEA they don’t want get close down I was taking 4 to 5 then dropped me down to 3 day now I went back today they cut me to 2 day plus I on Nucynta 150 mg I take every 12 hour it work It release Opium into your system every hour ask dr for it I still hurt some what

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Re: Joseph (# 1)

I am in the east coast as well n was getting from my family dr fir fibromyalgia. Was on a 7.5 mg twice a day but it was not helping anymore n pain was getting worse. He would not give me anything else n referred to PM. Thankfully got a really great PM dr who is very empathetic. Am now taking 10 mg. 3 times a day if roxicodone. My fiancé is also seeing him for broken discs in his back n neck due up an auto accident n he is giving him 15 mg oxy 4 times a day plus Fentanyl patches. There are stil some good doctors out there u just have to find them which is very difficult

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Look up agenda 21, the United Nations would just assume get rid of us all together. Pretty soon will we be told what to eat and where we can and cant live. Agenda 21 is already in motion . Talk about scary a future. We haven't seen anything yet , tapering our pain medications is just the beginning of how we are are going to be controlled.

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I am also in South Florida and took some cuts about 3 years ago but in just two visits both my long acting and break thru meds have been cut in half. If that is not enough the doctor would not see me when I called to tell him I was having a very difficult time. My last appointment when he reduced my medications for the second time... when I tried to tell him I was already having a difficult enough time; he told me if I did not like his treatment plan I needed to find another doctor which I am sure is what he wants. I wont go into what all has happened since his quick taper but it is far from pretty. I lost 20 pounds and can no longer take care of myself. I am currently staying with a good friend but I am going to have to do something else for the long term. I am only 60 years old and pain is no way to have to live but knowing that there is medication that helps that I can no longer get is killing me!

I am damn tired of hearing that these medications do not work for chronic pain! They are brainwashing people and getting those that do not need them to believe that lie!

I will never let another doctor do surgery on me. That was the start of my hell! I had pain before that but nothing like they left me with after the surgery that was supposed to get me back to my job as a flight attendant!

Lastly, I would look for another doctor but I know this is happening everywhere because the DEA have our doctors afraid of losing their licenses or worse.
In California they are using the database that was to make sure patients were not using more than one doctor to get medication but in California they are tracking every person who overdosed and using the database to see who treated these people with what drugs before they died. They are investigating the deaths. California doctors like doctors everywhere, are afraid to treat patients with pain! Below you will find a link to that article.

Source: "'Death Certificate Project' Terrifies California Doctors". medpagetoday.com. Web. August 30, 2018

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