Oxycotin Question
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I have really bad back pain and I have been seeing my doctor for about three years. I have tried just about every med that there is. I finally settled with oxycodone 30mg. It has been a life saver for me. I now can work without pain. Lately, I have been experiencing it not working and that disappoints me because now I am starting to have more pain. Is it possible that I have become used to the medication and it is not working anymore??? Is 30 mg the maximum dose? I am now taking 30mg every 4-6 hours. Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas?

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Stop talking it now. Pain or not. If you want all your teeth to Roy out and to become mineral deficient, continue taking them. And I'm not trying to be a troll. I've seen what these pills do and it's scary. I have pain too, and I wish I never started taking these pills.

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To painico

I started taking one and that was better. Two was knocking me out!! I am still on the oxy also. He just added the soma so that my muscle would relax at night. I would have so much tightning that I could not even sleep. So the soma has helped a lot. I am now trying to lower my dosage of oxy. It is just to hard when I do not take them. When my back is not hurting, I started not taking them and when I had the skin crawling feeling and insomnia, I had no idea of what it was. Then I read about withdrawl symptoms and I new that is what it was. I would like to talk with you privately if that is possible.

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Yes, I had that problem when I first started taking Soma. My advice is to cut the pill in half until you body gets used to it. Next, Soma is a muscle relaxer not a pain reliever so it won't do the same thing as the Oxy. I cannot believe your physician prescribed Soma in place of Oxy. When I transition from one pain reliever to another (Oxy to Vicodin), I taper off the Oxy while starting the Vicodin. It takes less than a week to complete the transition and I do not experience withdrawls. The Vicodin is not strong enough to manage my pain so I use the Soma with the Vicodin; however, I do not use the Soma as much when I use Oxy. My recommendation would be to go back to the doctor and address the withdraw problem. Managing the withdrawls and the pain will be miserable. Good luck.

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You are in a dangerous situation. What if you accidentally overdose taking all the different medications? You need to go to your doctor immediately and explain what has happened so he/she can help you taper off the Oxycontin. A good doctor will help you.

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As mentioned in my previous posts, I have the same problem as does everyone I know taking any type of pain medication. Your body becomes accustomed to the medication and it takes more to achieve the same result. My experience is to alternate medications about every six to eight months. I switch from Oxy (10mg, 4-5 times per day) to Vicodin (500mg 4-5 times per day) with Soma at the same time. It seems to work best for me (for the past five years). Good luck.

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There is a difference between addiction and dependence. If you take the Oxycontin to get high, you are addicted and need treatment. If you take it to control pain, you are dependent and need the medication to function. People are dependent on all types of medication - from sleep medication to anti-depressant medication. Narcotics are just more of a focus. Trust yourself.

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Hey I have a question for you. My doctor started me on the soma and it just wipes me out. Does it do that to you?? I mean I fall right a sleep!! I am in withdrawl kind of I guess because my body is not used to not having the oxy's. I am trying to get off of them. so basically I am asking two questions. Do you know anything I can do for the withdrawl symptoms??

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Hey Doc - I know I'm addicted to these Oxycontin. Didn't ASK to be put on them and didn't know they were so addictive. Thanks for the advise as to HOW to get off them but WHAT am I to do for the PAIN then? I'll keep taking the s**t they are feeding us now cause they don't work and I don't want the pain or the withdrawal! Any suggestions as to what I can take for the pain, if I go through the withdrawal from the oxy's?

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LDJP:

This is NOT medical advise, only information for you. Many times, Physicians prescribe Clonidine (Catapres) for Opioid detoxification. As it is a medication, developed for Hypertension, you need to be certain that your blood pressure is not too low, prior to taking this. I don't think they have really figured out WHY this medication helps with Opioid withdrawals, but is is commonly used.

Also, there is Suboxone available for those experiencing withdrawals, but you do need a prescription for both of these medications. Suboxone would make you the most comfortable, but you would have to make an appointment with a physician, certified in prescribing Suboxone.

The Benzos will help, but cannot take away that "crawling out of your skin" feeling. Again, I am not giving you personal, medical advise, but these are common medication used for Opioid withdrawal.

Try and get an appointment with a Suboxone, Certified Prescription Physician in your area. It is by far the best answer for any Opioid withdrawal. If you do not, or cannot see a Suboxone Physician, try the Clonidine (Catapres). It comes in tablets, or skin patches. Again, it is extremely important that you are not taking too much to suppress your blood pressure.

I hope this helps! Either way, you are pretty much dependent on a prescription. Any physician can write for Clonidine. Suboxone is a bit more difficult and expensive, but will mostly get rid of your withdrawal symptoms.

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Hello group I need your help. I went and used my oxycodone pills up and I cannot refill them until a week or two. I got my wisdom teeth pulled and I used them for that also. Now I am having some withdrawl symptoms and it is horrible. Is there anything I can do to get through this? I have valium and zanex and soma but the soma knocks me out! I cannot take that. Please help if you can. Thanks

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Thank you guys all so much for your help. I have already cut back because of the fear of becoming addicted... I haven't even thought of overdosing. Thank you all, and I will talk with my doctor about some of the options you've mentioned. I hope you all find the relief you deserve.

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Dr, Abraham - You have hit the nail right on the head. Would/could you please, please continue to act as an agent for us. I have spoke with Purdue several times and I was given the well you can't air travel, they same way before the attacks on the US, I was appalled that he would equate oxycotin with the same as air travel! Pls. Doctor keep on them, maybe they will listen to a Doctor then just us junkies. I am in pain and the new ones just don't WORK! Thank you for your time and effert on this,

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To whit
That is how I was until I started taking oxycodone 30mgs. It helps me out a lot. If you are taking 10-12 then you may develop an addiction if you have nor already and don't know it. Talk to your doctor about Dilaudid. I take that for breakthrough pain and it helps me. Plus I take Amrix which is a muscle relaxer and it does not make you sleepy. Your body is going to build up a tolerance for the Oxycotin in a minute. I hope this helps.

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I have seen this exact same thing happen with many patients, regarding the NEW FORMULATION of Oxycontin. Yes, people to build a tolerance for Opiates, however, I have recorded several cases of people who were doing fine on 30 MG of the ORIGINAL formulation, but when Pharma-Purdue changed the formulation it is without a doubt, less bioavailable (the way the body absorbs the medication). One patient was taking 30 MG for eight months, functioning at work and doing really well. He refilled the prescription and received the new formulation (OP, rather than OC). The second day of taking the new formulation (OP), his pain went from controlled to terrible.

I have spoken with many Pharmacist about the new formulation and it seems that the Pharmacies are getting many complaints about Pharma-Purdue's new OP formulation. So, even though your body can develop tolerance to any opiates, there is concrete proof that this new formulation of Oxycontin is not as effective as the original (old) formulation.

Some of the Pharmacist are recommending that the patient take the new OP, Oxycontin at least one hour prior to eating, or two hours after eating. Also, many Physicians are prescribing higher doses, just to compensate for this bad medication. Many physicians are also giving their patients additional, fast-acting opiates, to supplement for Break-Through pain.

It is very sad that Pharma-Purdue did not have very good studies and quality control, when producing this new formulation, which is supposed to curb people from abusing the medication (snorting it, shooting it, etc.).

You probably keep a daily journal of your pain levels and what activities take place each day. You also should have noted when you received the NEW formulation and see if there is a direct correlation of when you began the new OP Oxycontin.

I know the bioavailability of the new formulation of Oxycontin is much less than the original, or non-gelled formulation. It is just not breaking down in your system appropriately, or your body reacts poorly to the new OP formulation.

Speak to your Physician and check when you began the new formulation and when your pain level increased. My bet would be the new Oxycontin is not working for you, so you have to discuss other options with your Physician and working with your Pharmacist.

There have been so many complaints, exactly like yours, which can be traced back to changing from the original to the new Oxycontin. Write Pharma-Purdue and the FDA about your problem, as they need to hear this new formulation is not working.

Good luck!

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Paininco - there is NO generic oxy's. At least none that I am aware of.

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Hello Whit731. It sounds like your body has developed a tolerance for your current method of pain control. if you are taking 10-12 pills instead of 4, your doctor will eventually cut you off and rightfully so. There comes a point when you can overdose without realizing it is coming. My recommendation is to switch to another form of pain medication and possibly add a muscle relaxer. That way your body can work with you to reslove some of the causes for the pain instead of simply trying to block your sensation of feeling the pain. I hope this helps.

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Hi Lakeka. i used to be on Oxycontin but they stopped working so I switched to the Vicodin and Soma about 45 days ago. I tapered off the Oxycontin by reducing the dosage over a week to ten day period. This way I did not suffer withdrawls. I have had to increase my vicodin dosage over the past two weeks so I know the time is coming i will have to make a change - probably in the next 45 days. If I can find the generic oxycontin. I cannot afford the brand version. THe oxycontin is a time released medication and I really like it. My understanding is that Hydrocodone is the generic version of Vicodin (which is what i use). It contains the same ingrediant in Tylenol (acetaminophen) mixed with codone/codene. When I am on the Oxycontin I usually do not need to take the Soma as well. Right now I take the Vicodin (Hydrocodone) and the Soma. Maybe you need to try a muscle relaxer as well to get off the Oxy.

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Hey guys I have been following your conversation and I am hoping you don't mind if I join for some advice of my own. I have severe endometriosis, a fused neck as of September, and a gullbladder issue so needless to say I'm in pain all day everyday. My dr. has me on oxycotin 40 mg twice a day and oxycodone 15mg for breakthrough. My dr. Doesn't want me taking the 15 's more than four times a day but I'm taking 10-12. It seems nothing is helping or managing my pain, I am seeing a pain dr. On the 30th and I'm wondering what to ask for help or ask to for the pain control. I think I have a tolerance because I've been using some sort of opiate since July. Any ideas or advice? Thank you!

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Paininco
Yeah my body built up a tolerance for the oxy 30's. Now, it does not even work. So what I am trying to do is the same thing you are doing with the dilaudid. I am now taking 12mg of dilaudid twice a day. I am trying to get the oxy's out of my system so that they can work again because when I first started they worked great. It took me forever to find something that worked for my back that did not make me feel sleepy and flighty. The dilaudid is a form of morphine which I heard is addictive but it does not seem to have that effect on me. The only trouble I am having is the withdrawl symptoms from the oxys. It is not as bad when I take the dilaudid. My doctor is great. He really knows how to manipulate my back and make it feel better. He is smart and he cares. He is not one of those doctors who are more concerned with getting you addicted then making sure you are not in pain. He will give you what works because he does not want you in pain. I usually get 168 a month and my co pay is 10. But with the new year coming, our deductable is going to increase again so now I will be paying 65 a month until I reach the deductable. For now, my scripts are free for the rest of the year so I told him to give me all my meds so that I do not have to pay for them for a couple of months. So are you on oxycodone or oxycotin? I am on the codone and I heard it is better than the oxycotins because of what the companies have done to it.

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Hi Lakeka. Darvocet doesn't work for me at all. I was taking 20mg Oxycontin twice a day and had to increase to 40-80 mg day when my body became used to it. Thats when I change to Vicodin and Soma (generic Carpisol). Then when i have to start increasing my dosage of Vicodin to more than six a day, I go back to the oxycontin. The Oxy works my better but when the tolerance reaches a certain level, I know it will only be a matter of time before the medication loses all effectiveness so I switch it up. I have to add the Soma to the Vicodin to reach the level of functionality I have with the Oxy. THe Oxycontin is time released so it lasts much longer but it takes a couple of days to level out the pain threshold. Right now none of the pharmacies in my area have the generic Oxycontin so it's $120 for sixty pills which is insane. My understanding is that the pharmacutical company that makes the brand name Oxycontin is filing law suits to prevent other companies from releasing the generic version. It my opinion it is a greed issue. If you have insurance, you should try the Oxycontin. My experience is that i do not have a euphoric feeling, I just have a lower level of pain that is constant instead of spiking pain which is easier to handle. I've never tried Dilaudid and no nothing about it. I have been switching between the Vicodin/Soma and Oxycontin for six years now. It's usually six to eight months before the switch. Now that i do not have health insurance, i am not sure what i am going to do. I refuse to support pharmacutical companies that put profit ahead of patient concern. i'm sure the maker of oxycontin could produce a generic version (other than the Roxy which is not getting good reviews) and still make a profit. i guess $3M in CEO salaries has to come from somewhere. My doctor and i are going to re-evaluate within the next few months and consider new medications to try and address the underlying problem instead of managing the symptoms. For your circumstance, I'm afraid managing the symptoms is your only option. i hope you have a good relationshp with your doctor.

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