Oxycontin Op And Oc What's The Difference (Page 6) (Top voted first)

I've been taking the oxycontin oc for years now. I want to know what exactly is in the new oxycontin op? PLEASE HELP

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It is so easy for one to say try something get off it well we the ones that have suffered from daily pain have few choices and not many on our oxycontin any longer because of what was dine and how it has made us ill
If Lockdown has a cure for our condition please give it to all of us that has went through surgery after surgery been used as lab rats, been cut in to have had parts of us removed had foreign parts implanted. then when it makes us that much more ill and with much more pain, then its when they medicate us so we do not have to suffer from our conditions and mistakes made during surgery
When they mess with one brain we dont know what the outcome will be but we hope its a pain free outcome
When I read remarks from people that do not have a clue what someone has been through, It sounds like prudue is on Board
I am done replying to these boards as there are some ignorent people on it , not knowing what anyone is talking about or whom is suffering

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I can’t believe what I’m hearing on this issue. Please stay on point... Purdue changed the formula (apparently at the urging of the FDA) to avoid “abuse.” Now, the legitimate users have a valid claim... this new “OP” formula IS NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS THE OLD “OC” and the side effects are worse than the norm. You have to remember that this “CRUTCH” has given lasting relief so many legitimate patients with Chronic Pain.

I am in peripheral agreement with “ME” who has raised some valid issues. “LOCKDOWN” thinks that we should “suck it up and get surgery,” the only way to eliminate the so-called “crutches” we rely on.

Clearly, “LOCKDOWN” has never had to deal with real pain...

and not just the physical pain but the mental anguish and agony from appointment after appointment listening to the inexhaustible psychobable of Doctors, Osteopaths, Naturopaths, Neurologists, Rheumatologists, Endocrinologists, Psychiatrists, (and yes) Surgeons who are all professional hucksters selling their own personal wares. I have tried EVERY alternative given just to AVOID pain medication but finally had to acknowledge “it ain’t gitt’n any better.

Like “ME,” I have been going through 12 years of every possible “fix” there is (including four surgeries after trying everything else). Now they won’t operate anymore because the scar tissue would do as much damage as the operation... yet want to implant a “Spinal Intrathecal Pump” to deliver a nerve block. If that wasn’t enough, Osteoarthritis has kicked in because of all the “trial and error” medications creating bone spurs that exacerbate and aggravate the existing problems. It has taken me 8 years of using every kind of medication, treatment and organic effort to FINALLY get the relief I need and now I have to “SUCK IT UP?!?!” Replace the first S with an F and add a U at the end.

I urge everyone to keep calling...
Purdue Safety 1-888-726-7535
FDA MedWatch 1-800-332-1088

and if anyone knows of an effective equivalent, tell me, dump the Oxycontin and let Purdue bleed like a stuck pig.

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Skyjester
It sounds as you have been through the Medical professions Human experimental studies( Lab Rat)
I feel for you as I have been there hoping that the next surgery will be the one that works, but they never do they cause more problems in the long run.
I have stopped the Oxycontin all together as they where making deathly ill
I have been started on Opana ER and Its now figuring out the dosage to be equal to oxycontin
They say a 40Mg Opana is equal to a 80mg Oxycontin there is a conversion chart that the Doctors and pharmacists go by
Since its a different medication all together adjustments have to be made to get steady blood levels
The first month was a bad month after being off the Oxycontin the Opana where helping but not near what the oxycontin did so there was adjustments made, which is helping a bit more but it has only been a short time and I am hoping These will start working like the oxycontin did,
This is a new medication as over the years every medication was tried with poor results or ill effects until the oxycontin and it worked great, The Opana is OxyMorphone a new medication havent had any ill effects but getting the levels right may be a chore but at least it is of some help and hoping after time it will do the job.
Not sure if your doctor has mentioned this to you or if you have tried it, but so far It is working to a point
I wish you the best

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Reply to Tom-LV: Tom, I am a 68 year old woman, and I agree completely with everything you say. We are lab rats. I dread the night coming because for some reason, it's 3x worse at night. I have scoliosis, spinal stinosis, diabetes, sjogren's, etc.

You are certainly correct that the addicts are ruining it for people with unbearable pain. I don't enjoy anything. I lie in bed all day. I have no interest in music nor tv anymore. If this isn't a class-action suit waiting to happen, I don't know of one.

I know we aren't in the same age bracket, but this affects all ages and all genders. When I got my last prescription, they were blue just like the other 80's. The difference was they were bigger and flatter, and there are 4 original OCs where you could tell the difference.

My husband called the pharmacy, and they gave the excuse they give everyone: the abuse excuse. What do you do with your life when you have no life ? I would go further, but I don't want to depress you. I have been reading scads of emails on this subject. I picked you because your mind works similar to mine. The guinea pig designation came right out of MY MOUTH ! My symptoms are the worst in my legs.

When I get up to go to the bathroom, I fall because my equilibrium is shot. I have fallen 11 times, and I know people exaggerate on emails, but this is no exaggeration. The 11th time, I broke my arm, and that's when the intractible pain started. I have horrible sweats, headaches and stomach aches like all of you, and the worst depression since my mother passed away. I've been married 50 years and have a 50 year old son, so there's nothing I can do but carry on to help them. I don't know if this is a coincidence, but I have had 2 absessed teeth since taking the OP's. It's strange that my last script of OP's were blue just like the other OC's : 80mg, but different configuration. Luckily, I have 4 of the OC's left to show the Doctor the difference, not that it would make a difference. I'm sorry this is taking so long, you are the only one I have written. God bless you and God help us all....Gaslight.

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I do feel your pain
Prudue called me again and told me they have no plans changing the formula back
Why even call me and tell me this again
I have contacted the medica also about this
I figure a class action law suit will come but it wont stop our suffering, but maybe it will show Prudue what they have done is wrong and they might as well atke this off the market
Take Care and I hope soon we all find something that will work as well

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When I first contacted the Pharmacist if my prescription had changed, he gave me the “abuse” speech. I suddenly aware the others behind me. I could hear their breath suddenly escape as if they were blowing out candles in disbelief hearing the complaint of a low-life addict... or so it felt. You can read what occurred after that conversation but It wasn’t until I read Gaslights’ reply that I realized the reason for the automated response given to the Pharmacies from Purdue... make those who complain suspect of that abuse. That way the complaints die quickly.

Purdue isn’t going to buckle under the complaints. They’re doing what every City Council does in every city across the nation when a stoplight will disrupt the lives of those who are impacted most ... listen, pretend they care and wait until all the complaints diminish as the bureaucracy goes on to another problem. There won’t be any class-action lawsuit, there won’t be any victory for legitimate chronic pain recipients and we just have to live with it and that’s the most frustrating part... having to go back two steps and go through all this again.

Empathy and understanding goes out to anyone having to find another alternative and I hope the solution is swift.

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I don't think the new formulation of oxycontin had anything to do with abuse..i think it had everything to do with purdues patent running out on oxycontin. These ppl. are downright evil ppl.They couldn't care less what their new op's will do to those long term. It's all about money.They will lie and decieve as long as it gets them money. I am so fed up with the whole thing..doctors..purdue.medical scene. And it's not just oxycontin..it's all painkiller's..the DEA is actually thinking of removing all painkiller's. Is this the new obamacare. Am i being parnoid to think this is the early beginning's of genecide? Take the relief away from all ccp so they will commit suicide or just stop eating and wither away? I couldn't live with my pain level before i got on oxycontin and i can't live with it now. It's so disheartening and discouraging. Well at least we are not alone..there are now thousand's of people suffering. In Seattle..hospital's can no longer prescribe painkillers to there er patient's. Can you imagine if you were in car accident..broke leg or sprained neck..to be sent home without relief. This is insanity!! People will always find ways to abuse if that is what they have chosen. I read that the heroin abuser's have skyrocketed. Why don't they outlaw alcohol as that is more abusive than oxycontin. Those that did abuse oxycontin have now greatly harmed you and me.

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I too have been given the new OC 80/ops.I am finding little relieif from diabetic neurapthy,p.a.d,and DDD from L3 to s1.In addition I have Copd and cronic neck problems I am trying to live with.Since they aren' working as welll as the other were working,I am not able to get a pain level I can function what little I have left.Please comment on what those of us who desparely need it can do? by the way the VA is my pain managrment doctor

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To All Fellow Sufferers: I read the reply about genocide, and I couldn't agree more. I'm beginning to think it's a combination of genocide and experimentation.

My husband said that a class-action suit would take 10 years to get to the courts. So there goes that option. As we all know, we took the OCs to alleviate incredible pain. Now we are stuck with the double whammy of the original pain and the pain we are suffering from not having the medicine that did help somewhat. I also read that Perdue paid billions of dollars for exclusivity rights to Oxycontin. If that is true, why in the world would they change the formulation of a medicine they paid so much money to have sole rights to sell ?

I am 68 years old and I stay in my house in bed most of the day and night, but unable to sleep, yet totally and completely exhausted. I ache all over and if I took one of the OP's, which I understand means Oxycontin Perdue, I would be twice as sick as if I hadn't taken anything at all. Does anyone know anything about MS-Contin ? I have an acquaintance who takes that along with Morphine for breakthrough pain. I know nothing about these kinds of things. This person is no longer my friend because she recommended this insidious medicine to me. She told me it was a miracle drug, and before she took it, her husband would have to pick her up to get her out of bed in the morning.

I asked my doctor for it, and he prescribed it in the day when it was OC.It was truly a miracle drug as far as curing you of the excruciating pain from which we all suffer. But the time comes to pay the piper. I have never been in such agony in my life. For some reason, since I am diabetic, my blood sugar has shot through the roof since stopping this medication. I don't know why the ones I received were the OC.s mixed with the OP's. They were both blue, and I paid no attention to the difference in configuration. I did notice that one day, I would be so sick I could hardly move, and the next day, I would feel normal. I didn't realize it was the pills until I looked at them through a magnifying glass and saw Op instead of OC, and then came the dawn.

The pharmacy had put in 7-8 of the OC's, and the rest were OP's that are totally useless, and more than that, they are making a bad thing far far worse. I just do not understand why Perdue ( and I know I'm repeating myself ) would pay billions for this exclusivity right, but would make it so horribly useless that millions are going to stop taking it. My family are getting really fed up with how I've had to live my life since this has happened. My hobby is reading, and I don't have the strength to pickup a book.

I'm sorry this is taking so long, I'm so frustrated. I had a person in the medical prof tell me that it was in my DNA now, and I would have to take it until I die. I find this totally absurd. I read one of the emails that said that when they got their prescription, the pills were brown, mine were the exact same color. The pharmacist didn't bother to tell me they were different now, so I paid the price. I'm sorry this is taking so long, I have no one else to talk to about this because this has been a subject that has been discussed only within my immediate family. If Perdue had these pills changed because of abuse, and paid billions of dollars to get that appellation, why throw it away for people that genuinely cannot live a normal life without something of that magnitude. I use the name Gaslight because that is exactly what Perdue is doing, the older sick people first, then the abusers, then things will be wonderful. Could this be it or am I losing my mind. I hope everyone can make it through this,but if you are like me, I have severe doubts. I watch Cops and they think drunk drivers risking other people's lives is cute and funny but God forbid taking issue with a person in their hometaking something for unbearable pain. I'm glad I'm 68-years old because if I were 30 and in this condition, I would end this charade while I'm still capable.

God bless everyone excluding Perdue. Gaslight.

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To Guest: I agree with everything you say 100% ! If you get a chance, read my e-mail. God bless...Gaslight.

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TO ALL WHO READ THESE: At the top of this PerscriptionDrug-Info.com type in Oxycontin 80MIg. I replied in hopes that all would read just a few things on the web I found and threw phone calls to phamacies. Its really more than not worring about 10 years to wait for a Class Action Law Suit will come around to us. Its more like we had better start it now for maybe someone in our families future or a close friend. Hell, its for mankind. I'm very unhappy all of you are hurting and your Dr. might be treating like a addict but for every monger (the maker or PUSHER) theres us the USED. Please if you can find what I wrote It might open eyes when they don't want us to start seeing. In the mean time go to your Dr. and ask for another drug BUT MAKE SURE!!!! they use the correct Conversion chart or they could put you in harms way. Mine did twice and now after he understands I'm keeping a log and my reciepts to sue, I'm now recieving 30mg IR oxycodone 5 times a day which is better than 15mg IR 4 a day from 160mg oxycotin a day. And before that they gave my OpanaER 5mg 2 a day YES they could have given me cardio arrest. Less alone withdrawls twice. Ive never gone threw anything like that in my life. Anyways if you can connect with the other page on this subject read. This is not the only one with others hurting. All need to expand to what is happening but also you need ammo for your Dr. if they are trying to make you look like an ADDICT. I want to feel like I have a life and I don't want to feel like my head takes all day to shake off the drug stuper as I call it. I want to get on with my life as well as I can. And those other drugs like Opana, Kadian or any Morphine base or look a like I don't want, cause it would make ME feel and look like a 3rd street junky from the lower end of TV. thats way i push all of you to go to FDA/MedWatch.com and put in your complaint.

And with Purdue also so when a Suit comes you'll have a jump on the band wagon, collect and log what has happened to you. Is the smoke from that Ammo o burn down th house's these BIG GIANTS are building using our bodies.

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Since learning of the new formulation i have read everything i can get my hand's on hoping for good new's that the new op's are safe as well as effective. I just haven't found encouraging new's. I don't know what to beleive and i hate beleiving the thought's i am having. Purdue made a statement as well as the pharmacist's saying 'only those who abuse the op's are complaining'. Yet my gut tell's me not everyone having serious side effects are abusing their med's ..therefor something is very toxic with the new formula. And to dismiss patient's having these serious side effects as drug addict's is a serious issue..and isn't it a little dishonest for Purdue to make such claim's..to me it feels like blackmail. I read as well as talked to a Purdue representive that Purdue only conducted test's on the tamper proof side of the new oxy's. They did not study short and long term side effect's nor the effiency of the delivery sytem. But doesn't it stand to reason that to create a pill that will not desolve..that one will not be able to digest it? No thought went into creating a pain med to lessen the suffering of a legit cpp..it is the drug addict that this new op's were created for. How can a pharmacental company be so irresponsible and so deceitful and get away with it? Are we a nation that now is delusional? And those we need to trust can't see the truth for the life of them? I read a patient claims to be ingesting 2300teas. of rubber when she takes her new op's. How can this not hurt you? How is it to even question the safety of the op's mean's according to Purdue that your a drug addict? This is ludicrous!!It appear's one can't reason with these ppl. So..how can we not think 'they have an agenda'?

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Deb: I just read your Oct 9th e-mail, and I agree with everything you said. I am in the same position. God bless you and God help us all. Gaslight.

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Good new's guy's..to those who have not taken the new formuation and are troubled over all the report's of bad and dangerous side effect's and worried sick over getting the new op's..my medic told me 75% of his patient's taking the new formulation op's are not experiencing bad side effect's. 75% .Perhap''s this will help a little for those looking for assurance as so much written has been very negative and scary.For me..everything i have read about the new op's scared and frightened me so to hear my medic reassure me that he has had very few patient's with bad side effects relieved my mind..i hope this help's. Most likey we are just reading from those with difficulties .I know this doesn't help those who are suffering so much with the new medication and I wish there was something i can say to make you feel better..i do beleive you when you state you are taking them as prescribed and are vomiting..stomach pain and etc. I just wish Purdue would state why one could be having such difficulty with their product.

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One more thing..those patient's who were not getting the pain relief from the new op's were placed on a medication called 'Opana' I don't know anything about Opana but those that take this medication report it is effective with dealing with their painful condition's. As effective as oxycontin..there are those who say it does make them a little fatigued but it does reduce pain enough to function well.

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"I'M A HUMAN BEING, GOD D#M*IT!... MY LIFE HAS VALUE!... I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!

C'mon on!... open your window and SCREAM THAT as loud as you can... just like Howard Beale preached to the masses in the movie "Network." but a lot of good that's going to do.

And I am... Just the thought of having to start over to find that one "cocktail" that keeps me from wanting to kill myself, makes me want to kill myself.

It sounds like we are ALL having the similar problem with the new formula and specifically, Purdue. I truly believe one posting here saying that the reason for the change is the Oxycontin patent is almost up so they changed the formula upsetting just about everyone. Yes, there are a few of us having problems with the effectiveness of the OP's... perhaps 25%... but I also truly believe it's those 25'rs who are on an extremely high pain relief contract after years of trying to find that ONE cocktail that allows you to wake up and not find the .22 caliber handgun. I've written... I've called just about every number in this thread (and I posted a few myself) and I've talked to every one of my Doctors about it. And you know what the consensus was?... I'm probably addicted and I must be abusing it because they haven't had any other complaints.

You can scream I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! but then you'll be suspect as well. Purdue has a great campaign to make you feel just that

You can see the clip at http:/­/­www.youtube.com/­watch?v=90ELleCQvew&feature=related

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skyjester..have you tried opana? And if you have can you tell me what side effect's if any? I know am repeating myself but everything i have heard indicates it is a good medication for relief of pain. What kind of pain are you having? It sound's like you are really suffering and i am so sorry. Have you tried generic oxycontin? I have been reading that there are a few natural substances in your health food market that may relief pain. I have tried the capscien ..i think that's the name but after a few day's my stomach revolted and had to stop taking it..maybe your stomach is stronger and you could try it? Just please know your not alone..(that's very hard because pain is a lonely place to be..we all know that) Is the new formulation op's giving you any relief? I read that if you can not tolerate the new oxycontin then a letter by your dr. to Purdue will allow one to get oc. Have you heard this? Anyone? What does the FDA say when you contact them over the side effects you have? There is hope..

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Skyjester I feel your pain it took close to 2 decades to find the right combination of medications numerous surgeries to control my head pain waking up every day for over 20 years with head pain does not make for a happy day, at least with the OC The severity was controlled and the seizures where controlled but now I am having more attacks, to whom wrote about there medic only had a 25% adverse reaction report is all good but thats one medic. I have herd from Pharmacies even the VA that the OP is causing some serious issues with patients and many are being tried on new medication
Some patients in Nursing homes that do not say much are talking about how sick this medication is making them. With these ones accusing people complaining to be drug addicts are the ones that dont care about anyone , They are making excuses for Purdue screw up, we who have been on long term medications do not get high no matter how many one may take there is no buzz involved, it just helps decrease our pain, we are not addicts we are dependent and we depend on the medication to help us live some what of a normal life most of us has had surgeries and have tried everything as no one wants to be taking medication we would rather be pain free wake up every day and feel good not having to pop a pill before we can function
we all want the miracle the cure for the illness we suffer with , By God if we could live pain free getting off the medication would be a blessing,
going through withdrawls would be much easier then living with pain,
I would Imagine everyone suffering from Chronic pain would have no problem going to detox getting off the medications we are on if there was a cure for our suffering, but I do not think any of us would detox , if they found cure for are illness I dont think the need for pain medication would even be thought about if we would wake up with out any pain it would be a high it would be a buzz to be pain free and feeling good would have to be the best buzz out there for us whom suffer every day.
This is what so many do not understand they call someone a addict when they are dependent , not even close to being addicted.
If we all could be pain free we would be addicted to love the love of living with out pain,
I know the people who suffer as I have for decades would be happy to throw out our medications for a cure for our pain
There is no medication i n this world that is good for us they all effect our body in negative ways, we who suffer knows this and feels this every day, but when we have chronic pain we only care about getting relief not caring what the medication may be doing to us inside we just know there is relief in the medication so we take it just to go on and hope maybe a cure will be found or so we just do not die living with the pain. Just to be able to pick up our grand kids and play with them take them fishing is the best but when one in chronic pain is deprived of relief, we are unable to have those days with our kids or grand kids.
So If someone wants to say we are addicted they may need some help,
we dont get high off the medications we manage our life
Find the cure and we will toss our medications.
I have woke everyday of my life for over a decade with headaches 4 days out of the week with Complicated Migraines, then the Thunder Clap headaches and clusster headaches on top of a Migraine get waken in the middle night with a Hypnic headache.
Then have surgery after surgery as each one is suppose to be the fix
Then there is no specaslist that knows why the surgery did not work, but lets try it again.
Then years of trial and error and they find the right combination that helps control some of this pain.
Then its taken from us and there is always that one person that has a remark he must be a addict because of all the medications he takes, Most of us our on more then just pain medications as I am on several medications that are not a narcotic what about those why dont they label us for these medicatons also and they can do more damage to ones body then any Narcotic can.

I get upset when people do not know the whole story and start pointing fingers at people
Skyjester it sounds as its happening to you.
Purdue has screwed us and I am on the trial and error process again ,
\I refuse to take the OP as they made me sick and very sick and who needs this.
I am sure one day the OP will be on the News where it has caused a death or a serious illness and Purdue will be back in the News with new lawsuits
And the ones at Prudue thinking everyone that calls complaining is a addict lets just hope one day you dont fall three stories on your head and years down the line the medication that helped you with your pain doesnt get taken from you.
Purdue Where is your Heart at

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me..i just want to say i know exactly what you are talking about.There are nursing home resident's who are finding the op's not effective and it's making them

sick as well? Your right..none of us in our young yr's ever thought we would in our golden yr's need to be dependant on narcotic medication to even get out of bed let alone function. What a blessing not to know our future. But yet i am so grateful for oxycontin as well as to my nurse practioner for prescribing this and it's comforting to know there are so many that struggle with the stigma of relying on a narcotic painkiller. Why is that? Me..have you talked with your pharmacy about generic oxycontin?

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lol..somehow what i just wrote didn't come across as i had wanted...i meant to say i thought i was the only one who struggled with having to take narcotic painpills..but apparently i have alot of company and somehow that makes me feel better.

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