Oxycontin Op And Oc What's The Difference (Page 10)

I've been taking the oxycontin oc for years now. I want to know what exactly is in the new oxycontin op? PLEASE HELP

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Thank you for responding so quickly. As far as not taking anything for the pain, I wish that was an option for me. Without something to at least dull the pain, I'm useless to my child (and my own little fur babies). My pain cause is quite a long & complicated story as well as still not properly diagnosed. Since I was in my 20s, I've had the 'body of a 90yr old' as I've been told by my Drs. I developed osteoporosis at around the age of 21 (due to my body not metabolizing certain foods) and since then its been downhill from there. I've damaged my back to the point of surgery no longer being an option. Just recently the pain has started spreading throughout my body...my legs, arms, knees, etc. I had a nerve damage test done about a month or so ago on both legs. Results came back as no damage at all so yet again another mystery. I have broken or fractured more bones than I care to recall, this due to the osteoporosis. I have RA in my neck as well as almost every single disk in my spine herniated. Its a daily struggle to not cry & just lay in bed. I was on oxycontin 40mg 3x a day. Prior to that I was on IR oxy but the amount I had to take just kept getting larger & larger. I was petrified when I moved and started seeing my current Dr who recommended oxycontin. I gave in and started the 3 pills a day. It was wonderful as I never once had to up my dosage. I was.so happy to have found something like that...then the formula was changed. The original definitely didn't take my pain away, nothing will, but I functioned well & was as happy as one could be in my position. Once I started on the new formula, it took me a bit to realize that something had changed with the med. I had thought it was me & chalked it up to the fact that my pain was just becoming more intolerable. I didn't want to up the dosage I was taking so I tried to push through it. Eventually the headaches, drowsiness, etc started to become constant. I started to research if it was possible after 3yrs on oxycontin to suddenly develop side effects. No one had told me of a change to my med, so when I saw all these threads online about the new 'OP', it all fell into place. So I had an answer to WHY this was happening but I still am searching for my answer of how to deal with this change. You said Exalgo was a morphine base? Now I'm confused as the reason my Dr decided on Exalgo was bc I am allergic to morphine. I just can't believe there can be no other options than oxycodone or morphine? I'm searching for info on this Exalgo but there is not much out.there except from the pharma companies & fda. I would love to hear from someone who has tried this med after being on oxycontin as I have such a fear of medications, especially ones that are relatively new. Thanks again for responding & I apologize for any typos as I'm on my mobile phone & can not scroll up to see any mistakes

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Dear Mike, I know exactly what your going thru and I pray for you, I almost died off the new Oxycontin OP, I didn't want to live any more I hurt so bad, but the pain I was having was from the withdrawls, it was worse than the pain that I was being treated for, so trust me I know I took the poison for 40 days, I know, I was freaking out at work with tremors and everything. I hope you can find a doc and meds that really do work for you. My new doc says I should have never been on this in the 1st place. Please get help ASAP!

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I'm sorry Enuf4Me, but if you are happy without pain meds, then you obviously never needed them in the first place. Please don't come on here and tell people who have ZERO quality of life w/out them that they need to detoxify when you couldn't possibly know what life is like living in constant pure agony. I don't want to sound mean but if only you lived a day in my shoes you would never utter those words again. I'm in my 30s yet have a disease that ages 'parts' of me 5x faster than that of a normal person. If only you knew what that did to a body!

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Yes mam I do need them (did I’ll take my chances without), rear ended on a highway in 1994, don’t need to list all the breaks, bad knee surgery, forgot when that was done? Left me with a painful limp. I just rebroke my right foot Aug 2009; meniscus tear in my knee put me out 3 months of work Mar-May 2010, pain I can tell you about pain. My right ankle is deformed from turning it and breaking it a number of times. Ever have fractured ribs? That is the worst, the rib won't heal, I feel as I type, didn’t under OC's. But you know when YOU see the quality of life I had for 40 days these pains are never going to equal wanting to meet your maker in the worst way, I can retire and be waited hand and foot if need be. I just want people to know to seek emergency room attention immediately if experiencing any side effects from Oxycontin OP, I should have and I wouldn’t have suffered. When a GI has given his life for our country we at least owe him some quality of care, don’t you think? Today was a bad day with pain (and I’m still on Opiates), otherwise I could have sat here letting you know all my pains, but please don’t ever tell someone you must have “not†needed them, I’m not judging are you? I’d love nothing more to see the abusers and ones that are suffering to get off this not so merry-go-round!

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Hello I am writing in regards to the new OP formula that is making all of us so sick and awful side effects There is a number with the email address to contact these people from purdue pharma. They are not spokesmen but are there to take feedback and complaints. Here are there names and emails to contact them. I got there info from another web site on the new effects people are suffering from there newly formulated Oxycontin pills OP. Good Luck to you all. If we don't say anything or take actions then they will not know or do a thing to fix this MAJOR Problem with this new poison they are distributing to us. Contact call or write to these men if you are having problems with this new medication.

The new OP (all strengths) will be replacing the regular OC version by the end of 2010. Many people are having problems with this new medication. Here is Purdue's official statement and the reps you can contact with any concerns/complaints, or questions you may have.

James Heins
(203) 588-8069 (office)
(203) 856-2121 (mobile)
email [email protected]

OR

Libby Holman
(203) 856-7670 (office)
(203) 609-1291 (mobile)
email [email protected]
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u insensitive pos.i bet ur back yard is really dirty. clean up yours bfore throwing up in ours.

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Are you kidding me? Titanium dioxide in your pain medication is freaking you out? You know how I know you're an addict? You have checked out all of the ingredients in your pills, but not in your Hostess cupcakes. Titanium Dioxide is in them, too. In fact, it's in most foods you eat. It's used for coloring.

Why do you assume a pharmaceutical company would rather give you cancer than let you snort their drug? That's retarded. If you're taking their medication regularly enough to run even the slightest (i.e., impossible) risk of getting cancer, chances are you already have it, and that's why this stuff was prescribed to you.

In other words, the only way their medication is going to kill you is if you continue to smoke it off of tin foil.

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Roxicodone 15 mg they have not changed them yet but the DEA is trying very hard to get the manufactor to do the same thing as O/C..I will be going back to my Dr and asking for the Roxicodones 15. (Just last year for the first time I felt good again,I could move,bend,reach,mow the lawn,Smile,talked to people again had alittle more entergy,I was in a bad car wreck in July,2010 before that 18 yrs ago I was slamed to the ground at work on my butt and broke my tail bone in 2 places, every so offten it goes out (my back) that is.I always suffered never took any pills one day last year I tryed the 10/325 oxycodnes wow they worked wounders 1 maybe 2 a day and i never had to chew,smoke,or shoot them either they worked every time on time.(by mouth)The new O/P ARE NOT ANY GOOD.even the DEA said there will be alot more people seeking treatment or end up dead taking to many pills or end up in ER. Pudrue you didnt really tell the public what you were up to changing,DOCTORS KNEW IT PHARM KNEW IT they all had a big pow wow with the drug makers and others,People will OD on these because they will take another and another one.Thinking maybe i need another one.This product will stop selling. if you have stock in this Medication GET YOUR MONEY OUT NOW.Remember to Jesus in your daily walks of life.keith :)

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the funniest part of them changing the pills for abuse is that they made things worse. people are buying more of the pills to abuse to get high because they are less potent. and you cant crush and sniff itt ? yess you can. people unbend hose clamps and shave the pill than sniff it. these manufacturers just made it worse for the people who NEED the medication and the ones abusing it.

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Get plane oxycodone no time released. It's ten times cheaper

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When I could no longer find Oxycotin 40mg in generic form, I had my doctor prescribe Oxycontin 80mg for my pain.
I got no pain relief. The only change was unbearable constipation requiring lots of prune juice and Ducalax

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I went to pick up my monthly script for my oxy 60's. Well I got the OC's instead. So someone asked it they are still being made the answer is YES! I called to see if this was an OLD batch and they said no, it was called for a refill and they were sent the OC'S. So we are being played with. It's not fair!!!!! Oh well, just wanted people to know.

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The pharmacist told me they brought them back for a month or two and then they got sued so they returned to the OP's.

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When I went to my PM doctor to complain about the new 80mg OPs I asked to be changed to 26.7mg of oxycodone liquid IR every four hours which is what we were using for ny breakthrough. The PM doctor said no that would be abuse. I don't get it. That would be the exact same amount of oxycodone. so why would that be abuse. Oxycodone is the only thing that works for the extreme peripheral neuropathy pain in my buttocks, legs and feet. I am a paraplegic, paralyzed from the breastline down five years ago. I was hit by a caddy going 55 mph as a pedestrian. It broke almost every bone in my body, crushed my neck, back and ribs and severed my spinal cord at T4. I've been taking Oxycontin 80s for 14 years and it was the only drug that worked to kill my sciatic and PN pain. It gave me my life back. I worked as a Biomedical Engineer for ten more years because of Oxycontin and never abused it. Now I can't even sit in my wheelchair without being in misery. When I became paralyzed I could feel nothing from the breastline down. Even the horrible sciatic disappeared but the PN remained and worsend to the point it feels like a propane torch is being moved over my buttocks, down the back of my legs then around my lower calves, ankles and over the top of my feet. It also feels as though it is being crushed and a 40 volt DC current is being applied to these places, all at once. I lay in bed sceaming and crying until I end up in the fetal position to spent to scream or even speak. My BP goes sky high and it's 911 to the ER. That has been my life in the nursing home since they changed to OP and my PM Dr. changed me to Opana 7.5mg twice per day and no breakthrough from Oxycontin 80mg twice per day and oxtcodone 20mg three times per day for breakthrough. Thee calls to my PM Dr. and he won't change it. The conversion factor for oxy to Opana is .5 to start and then it is supposed to be titrated 10mg twice per day every 3 or 4 days until your pain is stable. So my begining dosage should have been 40mg ER twice per day and 10mg IR 3 times per day, that is a more than 85% dosage reduction and he cancelled me as a patient yesterday because I called a second time to let him know about the trips to the ER and I can't tolerate the dosage reduction. The Dr. in the ER agreed that the dosage conversion was way to low and gave me IV dilaudid and a scrip. for 23 2mg dilaudid and told me to find a new PM Dr. because they can't do anything else for me through the ER. Those barely work. I have been a mess since the change. I am a paralyzed paraplegic stuck in a wheelchair (now stuck in bed) stuck in a nursing home that is doing nothing to help. This is so unfair. It is outrageous. I'm going to have to go to the ER again tonight as I have run out of the dilaudid and don't have an appointment with a new PM doctor until 5 more days.

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I have been taking this medication since 1997. It's now 2012. Drunk driver made it that I had parts of my spine removed, and the old medication worked. It actually helped me get through the day. Being a single dad taboot!! Since the change I've gone down hill, and quick!! Right away I felt the difference between the two meds. Starting detoxing without knowing why?? Till I found a stash of some old ones I kept for travel. Just incase bottle. I started taking them again, and instantly as soon as it was in my system, I felt good again. That was enough to make me believe that they are completely different. For sure.
I take them still. Not knowing what to try in its place??? If anyone knows of anything new or old that helps them pls feel free to drop a line. My email is xxxxx@xxx {edited for privacy} any help would be great. I go to a doc at the Toronto poly clinic for my meds.
I hate the looks or even explaining things to those ones I'm sure you know who they are. They try to make you feel like your a druggie or some low life. But they don't see the 12-18 needles to numb my body that I get beside my spinal cord. I too could babble on and on about this subject, and what I've been through. But I'll end it with. Any help or info would be great to know. Pls feel free to use my email. Thank-you. Good luck to all!!

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I just wanted to let you and everyone else who has posted on this that I feel for you. I was just on here to see if anyone else has had this problem with the OP's not working like the OC's used to. I am completely frustrated as well. I have had denervations where they burn the nerves off of my spine so I won't feel any pain and that didn't work the last time. They tell me that if I want to work I will be able to for about 5 more years and then once I am fused in all the places that need to be fused I won't have any motion in my neck any more and will be too dangerous to work where I work (a paper mill). I am so tired of getting treated like a terrible person, much less always getting treated like I am drug seeking by different doctors. I am also tired of the doctors acting like I am made of money and them making me try different procedures over and over again just because they think they have to feel good about themselves by trying anything even if it never worked before. I am left with living like a poor person because of me being in pain and this should not be like this. There are even laws to prevent this from happening to us but look how it keeps happening. I have been always honest with my doctors and it makes them treat me even worse. I hate this so much. I am sorry for venting, but it is lonely out here. I feel very alone. The changing of the OC's is like the icing on the cake. I rarely have increased my milligrams and have even went down at times. Ever since they changed to OC's I have had a severe itching problem. I know that I usually have itching but not like this. So, anyway, my doctor had me on 2 1/2 pages of medicines and I started to itch. I complained but my doctor could have cared less. I ultimately ended up in the emergency room with welts and hives. Months later after trying a local Dermatologist and him prescribing even more toxic medications I ended up at the University Hospital Dermatology Department. They finally listened and said it was probably the 5 or 6 medications I was taking that had severe allergic reactions of itching and hives. I was really mad. I am only taking the Oxycontin and Oxycodones now. Does anyone else feel the OP's also make them itch worse than OC's? Sorry it took so long to ask such a simple question.

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i feel for people but then there is also the little pri&*cks messing with abusing its sad but let me tell you people who r legitimate i have a cure for you its works really good i take endo ER 60 mg in the am mid afetrnoon and at 9 pm and 4 30 mg oxycodones and man its better then the op cr*p and maybe just as good as the old oc remedy try it youll like it ,endo makes the best er 60 mg morphine and others it gives you the best of both worlds it works for me

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Wow! that explains a lot! I thought I got a bad batch of oxycontin, spoke to purdue and sent them two pills. Now I understand why I felt the difference. And all this time I thought that someone at the drug store was using a five finger discount!
Thanks for the info.

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I was taking oxycodone HCL 5 mg, 8 per day to control serious chronic pain for over
11 yrs. this allowed me to function normally. 2 months ago I became strangely ill.
Never feeling good, headaches, stomach pain and rapid heart beat. My doctor
determined it was the caraco manufactured oxy and gave me a new script. This
time I was given sun manufacture oxy and I am feeling better, but still not normal.
I discovered previously I had been given Roxane manufacture. Would getting these
back make a difference? Are the 5 mg oxycodones also being screwed with.? I am
67 years old and have always taken my medication as directed. Why are people
in pain being punished like this. Those responsible need to understand the damage
To lives that is happening. I am tired of feeling sleepy and sick. What is happening?

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I am also a hard science guy. Love Chemistry and Physics.

Wrong Chemical Name in use here, though they are related (but with different uses and different reactions in people).

As for the supposedly inactive ingredients (nothing really is) it contains :

Polyethylene Oxide - not Polyethylene Glycol. It has a higher molecular weight, is *not* the same and some people do react quite badly to it. It causes digestive issues in people (among other things).

It also contains BHT (butylated hydroxytolulene) which is indeed a banned substance in some nations & also a known allergen (and a dangerous one).

First off, the new formula seems to have between 1/4 and 2./3 of the pain relief in a lot of those on it. It also takes longer (easily an hour or more) to work. Those with digestive issues don't necessarily chew through the polymer in the same manner as they do a wax matrix.

Now...my wife has to take pain medication just to live. She was told this very directly after NOT being willing to take pain meds for 7 years of being TOLD she needed them, and slowing getting worse, and then slowing starving almost to death. I had to make an appointment at a pain clinic, and then physically carry her into the hospital in 1997 as she could no longer walk.

It is also very obvious she has a cytochrome P450 2D6 pathway problem. People are not all the same and this has been ignored a lot. About 90% of meds need to run through the same set of liver pathways to make an "active form" if they are to work.

- Cytochrome P450 enzyme CYP2D6 is used by about 25% of drugs.
- CYP3A4 metabolizes about half of all drugs on the market

CPY450 is the one that is used in pain meds

Most drugs do not work right in my wife. She gets really odd (at times dangerous) reactions. Many meds just do not work right in her. Her liver just does not work the right way, but if you read up on the CYP450 2D6 info it is clear that doctors are being i****s.

It is known that :

* in approximately 10% of Caucasians CYP2D6 allele is missing
* in 35% of Caucasians there is completely non-functional CYP2D6 allele

So 45% of white folk get ALMOST NO pain relief from ANY pain drug (most pain meds have a partial secondary pathway that gives weak relief).

* 7% metabiloize them so fast it is dangerous.
* 7-14% have a slow acting form of CYP2D6
* between 15% and 30% (depending on what you read) have a WILD variation, many of which do not work well

so that makes 75% to 81% of white people, who do not get the expected results from pain meds (in fact from 1/4 of all meds - and that is a core group).

My wife was told back at the very first pain clinic visit some very hard truths. They asked her her goals. She was only willing to take pain meds briefly and then do physical therapy and then off of them again as soon as possible. She was told it was a laudable goal but not going to happen. She was told very directly she needed to be realistic. That her case pain meds were like insulin to a diabetic. Her body does not work right. She needs pain management to live. She has been on everything else and barely tolerates the Oxy.

Since then she has been constantly abused by the medical and government organizations (thanks to the war on drugs and a lot of ignorance) and has been close to death a number of times.

Our issues with the new version of Oxyxontin is that my wife is allergic to most everything - since very early childhood. Finding ANYTHING she can take (or even eat) is hard. Very few medications are OK in her, and many give her dangerous reactions or just fail to work. Oxcycontin is the only thing she can tolerate for long term serious chronic pain, and only barely - UNTIL the formula changed here about 2 months ago.

She has already been on everything else.

The biggest issues is the BHT.

My wife is highly allergic to BHT (proven in many diagnostics when she was 4). She used to work in pharmacy and out of habit read the big insert as soon as the change occurred here in Australia. She has NEVER done well with polymers in her meds in the first place. Somehow after working doing chemos under the hood she now has a very real case of Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (complete with seizures) which was diagnosed by a mainstream diagnostician who was head of the department for 37 years, and a second time by another doc (we told the next guy nothing).

She now has many allergic symptoms from the BHT (headaches, insomnia, terrible G.I. cramps, and WORST she has constant throat constriction since the change over and all of this keeps getting worse). He hands and breath smell like solvent and plastic.

In two months of slowly swapping over to the new form of the med, she has gone from having constantly lowered her dose steadily and been ready for another drop ... all by reading EVERY study we can find (the docs are useless on new information, as they never read and only 2% to 5% of them are scientists) and so we have found other means of pain control (turmeric, DLPA, Mucuna, Brahmi, etc) because she hates the narcotics.

She has gone down in dose (all on her own) from 320mg of Oxy a day and STILL in a lot of pain - down to 120mg, and the other stuff WAS HELPING to reduce the pain in real ways and to treat her *problems* not just cover up the pain... and now she is just really sick. She is going down hill. She is in a lot more pain.

She is also allergic to every other medication choice. They tried all of them.

Note that since the change over in the US in 2010 to the new Oxy formula occurred - the H use, abuse, overdose and death rate in the USA has skyrocketed.

Interviews with recreational Oxycontin users and real Oxycontin addicts (there is a difference, as there is between a scotch or 2 a month and drinking until you die of it) have confirmed that MANY addicts; even *Functional* addicts (people who hold down jobs, always go to work, pay the bills, care for the kids) who were using Oxy - these people are now mostly on H instead (and dying).

All around this was a very stupid change. A lot of sick people now have no place to turn. No wonder there are so many bills to make assisted suicide legal.

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