Oxycontin 80 Mg Op Abuse Deterrent (Page 4) (Top voted first)

Oxycontin 80 mg op, will this new formula deter intravenous usage?

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wow, i gotta admit, i have been following this s**t for about two weeks now. i think it is great that so many people wanna be inventive and chemical engineers. i am reading back and seeing how some of you are saying you got it to work with dremels, grinders, coca cola, the oven.... now i tried the oven, i am trying it again right now, and the coca cola i have to admit sounds rediculous but i am going to try that too! the dremels, grinders, and all the tim the tool man taylor s**t still leaves a glue up the nose! so my next question i saw something on opana 40? whats that? any reliable canadian sites where ocs are still found that dont go through customs? any imput... my oven always smells good even though its just an OP in there haha

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bakin doesnt work unless i m doing it wrong

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can it be diet coke

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so up here s**ts hit the fan from 60-70 before per and now if anything is even around your lucky at a 100 most 110 and the worse i heard in the southern part of the state at 140. question though now is it just the 8's that are the op or the 20's and 40's as well? and what about the cdn's and abg's? are those still being made and available?

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How much are Roxy 30mg going for heard they work like Oxys

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I tried the new oxy's op and the effect that I get is 1/4 of the effect I get from the oc's.

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For people who can not find the now old 80mg OC green ask the pharmacy for the Watson brand 80mg it is the same as the old ones. It has 80mg on one side and ABG on the other side. They work the same as the old ones and cheaper in price.

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painsucks.....have you done this? i know purdue made the abg's for watson, and figured that those weren't available anymore....so i don't see how that could even be an option anymore

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Just let them sit in 90% isopropyl alchohol and filter with a high grade coffee filter paper and then wash the paper with alchohol once to get the residue the paper absorbed out and then let it dry. Once dry go ahead and shoot it, smoke it. Harder to snort cause this removes the binding agents.

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HEY MATT
IM PUTN SOME FRESHIES (OPs)
IN THE OVEN NOW !
SURE HOPE YOUR METHOD WORKS

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alright listen up u can try and try all day to make the op's work.... but they wont! bake em freeze em, put em n coke, use power tools whatever u wanna do, but its not gonna b the same. as for the abgs that watson makes, they were exactly the same, but purdue sued watson and they have been discontinued for 18 months. Oxys are my livelihood and have been for 6 years and believe me if there was a good way to do the op's then I would know. Now u can believe this or not, I dont give a f*** i'm tryin to help you guys. So if u want the same buzz u have 3 options: 1.) heroin, 2.) perkacet 30's, and 3.) the best option is opannon (not opanna) the chemical name is oxymorphone. An opannon 40 is equal to 120 miligrams of oxycontin. I literally can do 4 or 5 oc 80's before i catch a nod, and all i have to do is 60 miligrams of opannon and i'm f***in wasted. So u can waste your money tryin to find a way to make the op's work or you can find someone with opannons and never worry about an oxy again. you are all very welcome. and p.s. if matt from page one knew how to do it he would tell you, but he don't he's full of s***. so find some opannons and enjoy cause the oxys are a thing of the past like qualudes. Peace, and your welcome!!

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I put it into a glass little epson salt mixed with water get em wet with epson mixture then put em in the oven wet from the mixture and bake for 30 min until turns like a yellowish collor tkae it out itll be mushy let it cool while its cooling break it up with ur fingers then get a razor blade and start chopping it up once u chop it and its cooled at least 20 min get a silk screen or any kind of sifter and keep running it through to collect all the fine powder then keep choping up whats left on top of the screen and repeat until ur out of powder and u have a mound of fine grade oxycodone powder itll look yellowish almost like fine grade heroin.

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This works great for the new oxycontin op i used the 80s worked good make sure u watch it after 25 30 min in oven keep eye on it if its not yellowish its not ready but follow instructions below and ull be able to snort the powder or cook it in a spoon..

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Well I personally have to use the medication for chronic pain but the new op's are not as effective and cause more side effects for me than its worth I have trouble digesting meds as it is and now this plastic substance in the new ops are tearing my stomache up. Help does anyone have a solution to this problem

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Hey Oxy King --- I must agree with much of what you shared in your post however I do not find an opannon brand? I only seem to locate opana? I presume your referring to the brand?

I would really love to make a change to something new and Oxymorphone sounds like a viable option conceptually.
But perhaps someone else could share their experience with Oxymorphone -- Obviously every situation is unique but just take into account the typical practice of PMP nowadays. It seems many PMP docs are overly cautious. And with good reason of course.
My question would be how likely would a physician prescribe Oxymorphone in the US? And if they do is it a pain medication that is generally frowned upon within the medical community? We all know that many doctors frowned on Oxycontin because of the high risk for addiction and death in some cases.
Just so I am clear I am a chronic pain patient. I have excellent medical records a couple feet thick and films (MRI-XRAYS,CT ETC) to backup my serious condition. So no doctor in his right mind would argue I am not a candidate for opioid therapy.
I am currently prescribed 300MG of Oxycontin daily (90 80s + 90 20s) -- in addition to 90 - 10/325 oxycodones for breakthrough pain.
Oxy King you mentioned that 40MG equals about 120MG of Oxycontin. However I did not find an IR version in this MG?
In fact the strongest Oxymorphone I found while investigating online was an ER (extended release) version in the 40MG.
So this implies Oxy King that the Oxymorphone can be modified similar to the way the Oxycontin OC version were able to be modified. Am I correct in my assumption? Because if the ER Oxymorphone doesn’t have the ability to be broken down for a more immediate release of the oxycodones then it would be pointless to make the transition. Again I have to assume this is the case... The OP's don’t provide a sense of or any euphoria for me...
I just have been taking them, the OP’s, whole as it seems to be a waste of time an effort to try and alter the OP’s. I mean seriously even after experimenting with a couple of the OP’s I was not able to experience the same mind and mood change as I was before with the OC’s..
So after all this said and even with a very legit medical condition how likely is it that my PMP would change me over to these Oxymorphone? And if he did based on a normal conversion ratio I have to wonder if he would even start me with the 40s and if so how many? I realize that many of the answers to my questions would be pure speculation which I will take into account. But you cannot argue with others experience. That experience goes a long way... If the Oxymorphones replicate the OC Oxycontin in their euphoric feeling.. And if the MG conversion that Oxy King mentioned in a previous post (40MG = 120MG). And if the medication itself is considered a viable option within the medical community and not too badly frowned upon. And if after all these if’s my doctor were willing to prescribe them to me then I would say that there is still hope..
Because at present day I am struggling. Struggling not because I cannot get a buzz of the OP’s no matter what is done to them. Struggling because the OP’s after several days of trial they simply don’t match up to their retired version. In all honesty I can say that the OP’s simply do not pack nearly as much of a punch as the OC’s did. What I can say is that the OP’s have a little more leg on them. But I personally would rather have 8 hours of good pain relief than 12 hours of below average relief. The choice is simple. For me a change has to be made. I just hope that I can find an option which worked as well as my regiment used to work.

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Talot- The Opana is oxymorphone which is twice as strong as oxycodone or oxycontin. I transfered to it for a couple months a few months back because my doctor wanted me to try it instead of oc. It was actually too much for me, it kinda gave me too much buzz for what i want. I take 1 80 3x daily, plus 1 30 ir 3x daily. I only tried the ER version and they can be ground up and insufflated. Idk about smoked or shotup because i deont do that. But they dont have NEAR the bad wrap as oc does and you shouldnt have much problem switching. My doc WANTED me to switch i just didnt likem as much but now that there are only OPs im gonna go back to the opana. Just stick with the roxicodone ir's and get the opana er's. And actually 40mg of opana=80mg of oc so you will just get 3 40s a day instead of the 80s. if you tood 60s ud get 30s and so on...I have badddd backpain myself and the opana are alot stronger but do more of a headchange that you may or may not like. So just stay weary of how much u try if you insufflate. take half the line u usually do with oc. its strong stuff! I bet endo knew this was coming and made the opana able to be tampered to take over when purdue came out with the new formulation! I know I'm switching and I know a few others who are. Im sure purdue is going to lose ALOT of business, but hey...I HIGHLY doubt its gonna affect them! They are RAKING in the cash and its disgusting how much money they are making. Who knows how much it is, but if the pharmacy pays over 1000 for a bottle of 100 and there are thousands and thousands of pharmacies, and even more patients...they are making more money than we want to know. Also, if you dont make much money, you can qualify to get your oc script FREE! straight from purdue in the mail. Go to purduepharma.com and look for their patient assistance program. There are other companies that do this but if you dont have insurance, which i do so i dont qualify, this will help you IMMENSELY! They also make Dilaudid which is a very strong painkiller as is opana and oc, and that may be something you might want to try. Look up opiate strength chart on google and you will see what are the strongest painkillers you can get. Fentanyl which is a patch is by FAR the strongest painkiller you can get. That is just too much for me, even as bad as my pain is. I just need something I can work on and be productive, not b stuck in a chair or bed! haha. Its just so bad that withdrawls come from taking opiates. Thats the worst thing ever. Its like you fix the pain but then if you dont have it again, the pain is the worst uv ever had! Stay up! Well i hope what i said helps. Let me know if u have any other questions. I'm no doctor or pharmacist but close to it! haha Well have a goodnight/day. God Bless!

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Man i took a half of op 80 n that shxx aint work.i thought they was strong but it looks not.someone told they wuld be stronger than oc 80s which was a lie.id rather sticc with the 30s

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Talot:
Opana is an extended release medication, made from oxymorphone. The conversion is, according to my PMP, 1 mg of oxycodone = 2 mg oxymorphone.
The 40's are a dark red, same coating mechanism as the original OC. The euphoria isn't quite like the OC, but I think it's better. Like all scripts, it varies from person to person. Opana gave me major nod, but the floaty feeling went away faster than OC. What I liked the most was I wasn't nearly as itchy. The thing with Opana is, if you're looking for euphoria, you have to snort it or shoot. It won't do anything other than it's supposed to if orally ingested.

My PMP and I have had conversations about switching, but for now I'm going to switch to multiple doses of 40's. He's not aware of my methods of ingestion, but I don't snort the OC's anywhere near what I used to. We all know the bitch that is tolerance... That's why I try to just pop them, take the coatings off the OC if it's that bad of a day. Every so often I'll snort, but if this trend keeps up, apparently not anymore.
With the OP's, what I noticed is that chewing didn't change anything but someone suggest I scrape it against sandpaper. I've read that a few times on here (or something similar) and I can vouch for them - it makes it hit a little closer to the old ones. The only difference is I scraped the green part off in hopes of something similar to the old ones, but I kept scraping it down until most of it was powder. Then, I ate the powder. That gave me the best rush.

But... with OC/OP, I find the most enjoyable experience is when I pop em. Snorting always goes away quicker and shooting leads back to the real deal. Popping them may not be as strong as shooting, but at least it'll last an acceptable length of time with the least amount of physical problems later. The coating issue may prove to be too much of a hassle and I may switch to Opana for some time. I've heard from doctors that they're trying to make every Oxy like the OP's, but I don't know how informed the doctors I'm talking to truly are - I doubt the FDA is talking about such a wide change in an established medication, including generics. That just doesn't sound right.

Regardless, good luck.

P.S. - Of course the dedicated users will go back to heroin, I would have expected them to earlier than this debacle. The street price of OC is too extravagant for someone who's habitually doing H to afford. If you're getting dopesick, of course you're gonna go for the larger supply. Sure, it's probably cut (the only question is how cut), but having half a g of cut s**t that you could snort or smoke to keep you in the clear vs. MAYBE a full 80? No question. ...at least that's prices last time I was around anyone with h connects. Are OCs still going for around $50 - $60?

Good luck, all. And for those who are actually dealing with pain, has anyone tried acupuncture? I've gotten a lot of good word-of-mouth and would really like to try it. Of course, insurance doesn't cover anything from Eastern medicine... They'll only cover something they can potentially get you hooked on, will require multiple follow-ups, or could get them sued for negligence if they don't.

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Hey thanks to the both of you (Filmstudent and Palmsprings) for your input... Your input certainly helps me form a more educated opinion.
The one thing that seems to hold true and certainly is most important in my mind is that a 40mg opana=80mg oxycontin or 1mg oxycontin = 2mg of oxymorphone.
So my next step is going to be checking my health insurance to verify coverage. I have really good insurance. Or at least I think so... I pay 60 bucks for 90-80s OPs/90-20s OPs/ and 90-10/325 IR oxycodone for break through. So my guess is it will be covered. I get about the same as you both -- I take 100mg 3x daily ER and 3x daily with the break through --
So assuming insurance covers the oxymorphones then step two and most challenging will be to work it out with my PMP –
The reason I say it will be a challenge is because he is my new doc. My old one recently closed his pain management business and just does a family practice. I am sure he made this decision because of the headaches associated with that business. Sure the money is good but who wants to worry about rogue patients dying and the DEA storming in... I was with him for a couple of years. My new doc and I just started recently, last month in fact.
So while my old doc and I could shoot straight with one another, talk openly and honestly, I really haven’t established that level of trust with my new doctor. It doesn’t really matter how good my records are or how crippled I am you know what I mean? Maybe I am just overanalyzing it?? Who the hell knows --- IDK??? I am sure that some can relate with the bad apples spoiling it for the rest of us who have legit injuries. I am sure everyone has felt like they were being profiled at one time or another by a new doctor simply because that doctor had a bad experience at some point in their past with a patient who abused their kindness..!
I mean how I should approach my new doc with such a blunt question like: Hey Doc I was thinking about making a change to oxymorphones!!! The reality is I am an educated person who is curious and who has been going online doing some homework... This is the God’s honest truth... If the new OP’s really provided the same level of relief then I wouldn’t be in this predicament… But as others including myself have been sharing since this issue first sprung forth my experience is that while they do seem to last a little longer they DO NOT provide the same level of relief. They simply don’t. I would much rather have a higher degree of pain relief that lasts a shorter period of time than something that provided very little pain relief but stretched out a little longer.
One thing I failed to mention about my new PMP is when he saw what I was being prescribed by my old doc he did make the comment that he wanted to try some different options. He mentioned Fentanyl patches which made me violently ill... Even with a huge tolerance I just didn’t care for them with or without a buzz. The next thing he mentioned or suggested was hydromorphone. I have done a little research on and came up with what I believe is Dilaudid... Now I might be missing something but based on what I can tell Dilaudid IS hydromorphone and there aren’t any other flavors or versions of it except Dilaudid? Perhaps someone would be so kind as to confirm this as well and provide the same buzz comparison (to speak frankly) on it like was done with the oxymorphone in the event he doesn’t want to go the oxymorphone route... So the question is, I suppose, if he is inclined to have me try some other options how to make the shift to something as specific as 40mg of opana oxymorphone 3x daily? Because it is established already that I am cursed with injuries that no normal human would want to endure every day – At the end of the day what I truly am after is to be able to live life with the least amount of pain possible. Is this really too much to ask??? Did I shoot up the oxys when they were OCs – No -- Am I looking to be laid out every time I pop a pill – no -- Are there times when I am awakened from a deep sleep screaming in pain? Yes... In moments like that do I chew up the OC to bring about the quickest relief possible? Yes of course. And so would you...
Does it appear as though I am seeking something to get high from with my questions? IDK and I honestly don’t care. Step into my shoes or anyone else reading this forum who suffers with chronic pain and they will tell you that in moments of acute pain which are so intense, so strong that it takes your breath away and they will tell you that all bets are off – If chewing that green thing up means some pain relief in 15-20 minutes as opposed to swallowing it whole and waiting an hour or two --- the decision seems pretty obvious.
I have read through this particular thread and I relate with many. My reasons for taking a narcotic are going to be different than others... And my heart goes out to those readers who have lost a loved one from careless use or irresponsibility. I can say with sincerity that my desires for each person whether addict or chronic pain patient I want the very best. I want for each person the same things I desire in my own life. Happiness, freedom, joy and to be loved and accepted. And for those whose bodies are riddled with pain I desire some true pain relief.
Take care

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did anyone figure out a way to break down the new op's that WORKS ?

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