Oxycontin 80 Mg Op Abuse Deterrent (Page 2)
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Oxycontin 80 mg op, will this new formula deter intravenous usage?

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To everybody who uses the term "abuse Oxycontin," who are you to determine what is an acceptable use of the medication and what is not? A hypothetical man/woman named Cory has a semi-major medical problem, maybe they were in an auto accident, maybe they were walking to the bus stop to take food to their grandmother and were hit by a drunk driver, maybe they have a genetic deformity of some sort, maybe they are seriously depressed and hate the fake smiley face feeling of traditional anti-depressants. Do these people deserve Oxycontin? Would it be "abuse" if they took the medication? With perhaps the exception of the depression, the vast majority of you naysayers would say "no that would not be 'abuse' because this person is using it to fight their crippling agony." However, if this person is not fortunate enough to have health insurance and resorts to buying them off the street, in that instant in society's eyes this person is nothing but a dirty junkie. Why? The medication is still being used for the same purpose after all, the source is the only variation to the doctor, prescription, pharmacy method. Now lets say its 5 years after Cory's accident, whatever it may have been, and he even has health insurance so he was never perceived as a junkie, but now he is because he was taking the medication at the exact correct dosage as prescribed by his physician in order to help with his/her agony, and is currently addicted to the medication. The original purpose of taking OCs in the first place was to eliminate agony to retain some semblance of a normal life, and as everybody with a single neuron in their head knows that quitting opiates of any kind with OCs being the most harsh of all, is the definition of pure agony. Quitting would make Cory feel the very same agony from his accident, but it also afflicts not only his physical sensation of pain, but also plunges him into a depression so intense that most who have committed suicide, if alive (I know, they're dead, hence the suicide part) and if they experienced a single hour of withdrawls from OC, they would gain a new perspective on mental agony. You may think this is not the best argument, but consider this: would you consider Cory a junkie if he developed a habit from taking his medication as directed and was then cut off by his doctor who says his injury has healed, but Cory struggles with staying off of this wonder pill? Where do you draw the line? Does a doctor's recommendation to take it constitute proper use of the drug? I know what you're thinking, "he's about to say any person who has a prescription is free and clear, but no no no! there are crooked doctors!" and you're absolutely right there are crooked doctors. Crooked doctors who will refuse to prescribe Oxycontin to anybody except those patients with spinal injuries, cancer, or some other affliction that is considered to be the absolute worst pain imaginable for the only reason that they have read the reports that it is being abused. A little psychology lesson for those of you who are narrow minded VICKY AND MATT, people are often aware that different people experience things differently; men are supposedly more sensitive to pain than women, even eye witness testimony is not reliable because each person's brain function causes differences between reality and perception. So what if Cory has had a mediocre injury but because of the way their brain is wired, he/she actually experienced excruciating agony. This is very possible in that a brain can receive a pain message from the body's nervous system (as in nerves, not being nervous as in experiencing anxiety) and where a normal brain would simply receive the pain signal and turn that into the perception of pain so that you can consciously "feel" the pain, some peoples' brains actually receive the pain message from the nervous system, that message becomes amplified in these peoples' brains which means the perception of a mild to mediocre pain by a normal person is perceived as an excruciating to impossibly agonizing pain due to the amplification of the pain signal. If I lost you, it is exactly like turning up the volume on a stereo, at low volume it is quiet and hardly perceivable but when you crank it up it becomes very loud and impossible to ignore. Does this person not deserve Oxycontin simply because of their brain function? Of course not, people with different brain function receive medication all the time. Just because a macho person would say "that pussy doesn't need Oxycontin!" doesn't give ANYBODY the right to say what another person feels. For example, if you are a woman this question is for you: when you become upset at something that happened to you, if your boyfriend/husband feels that you are overly upset does he tell you to shut up and get a life? NO! He says "aw baby everything will be alright, here let me help fix this and make you feel better *muah.*" Lastly, abuse means misusing something, duh, abuse of Oxycontin would be using it to play marbles, or as a fertilizer for plants. Oxycontin is supposed to be taken to make people feel better, and all these people who are "abusing" it are doing exactly that. "Minor problems in their life," like I said who are you to say how a person feels, who are you to say what is a bad life versus a good life, who are you to say what problem in life is bad enough to take medication? We aren't getting in your business and dictating what you should or should not do, and that's exactly what you are trying to do, be a dictator. Especially if you are not taking Oxycontin for pain and YOU are the loser taking time out of your day to seek out people you can dump on, this is literally NONE of your business. It is OUR business because it is OUR lives. Philosophy fans on here? Like Descartes? He postulates that he is the only truly real entity in existence and everybody else is merely a figment of his imagination of sorts. Following that logic, from your point of view nobody else exists so you are wasting your life whining about figments of your imagination. Sounds to me that YOU are the loser moron, OH! that reminds me, IT'S MORON! NOT MORAN YOU MORON! And furthermore you seriously think only loser morons with no life do Oxycontin? Seriously?!?!?!?!? Soooooooo many people do OCs that literally tell NOBODY so I can pretty much guarantee you that at least one of your friends does it. There is not one single type of person who does OCs, there are doctors, lawyers, judges, accountants, professors, students, minimum wage employees, people in urban settings, people in remote settings, grandmas, fathers, police officers, business owners, unemployed, world class professional athletes, politicians, nurses, musicians, artists of all kinds, therapists, preschool teachers, bus drivers, commercial airline pilots, construction workers, etc etc etc...... on and on for ever and ever. I am not guessing at that, I personally know for a fact because I like spending time with like minded people to avoid running into people who will nag, bitch, and moan like you. Every single occupation I just listed was from recalling individuals I have personally done Oxycontin with. If you knew how high up that judge I spoke of is, you would probably cry. I am a graduate of Yale with a double degree in Neuroscience and Cognitive Sciences, I am attending NYU School of Law, I hold 2 jobs, and I support my mother and father. I do Oxycontin, I LOVE oxycontin because it helps me accomplish everything I do on a daily basis. "Losers, morons, low lives????" perhaps this situation of insulting people is similar to schizophrenic patients in that a "crazy" person will never say "I am crazy" because they truly believe they are the normal one and everybody else is "crazy." You run around saying "if you do Oxycontin you are a bad person and/or are a waste of life/ lowlife moron," whereas we can admit our faults and shortcomings, but doing Oxycontin is not one of these faults, shortcomings, vices, or problems.

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Why don't they just go back to the original oc and make the doctors do there job and do pill counts this will weed out people abusing , selling , trading , or whatever they do I've been on 360 80 mg oxycontin a month foe the past three years and these new ops are not as strong and something with the gue in the pill gives me a headache abdominal pains and coughing up goo bAlls it's nasty plus the originL oc was only 2100 for 180 my INS covered the other 180 and now the ops are 3000 $ for 180 and insurance dosent want to cover it cause it costs too much WTF

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put op in oven at about250 and wait untiljust about brown pull out ,scrape, snort or put in spoon, the polomer is broke down more so its tolerable,to inject or snort, or crush heat the spoon for like 5 mins and the poly will go to the bottom, use a good filter or you will draw slime, heat two times and draw up and walla

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grind w/ hoseclamp not pedegg to big spread it out evenly&thin microwave till golden brown put in freezer 4 10min it wont gum up if people want i can tell how 2 boot

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I agree with naughtynurse who cares what color or what the pill says on it as long as it help us people in real pain if you have to chase a pill because you can't shoot it r u kidding me there not ment to be shot up I been on 12 80 mgs of oxycontin and am only at such a high dose because it has been three years started slow and just became in a worse. Condition over the years I don't want to be on this except for pharmicies that know me I get looked at like I abuse meds With proof mris disc o grams it just continuing to get worse and who cares what the f in pill looks like or says as long as it helps you lead a normal life without being in a coma cause of the dose everyone has. Different tolerences and u junkies r messing it up for us Patients who really need the relief to live a normal life I wouldent even be able to walk without meds but now because of people abusing these some people who really need it can't get it cause insurance will only cover generic now I feel bad I was in that situation but got it straitened out by my doctors help and if I was just a junkie at that dose I wouldent still be on my meds after three years pill counts is all it takes and if your doc thinks your abusing selling tradeing or whatever the he'll yo abusers do It is there job doctors aren't stupid they dident go to school so many years to be taking advantage of that's all I have to say I hope all you people that r having hard times because of insurance or just can't afford brand or can't get insured because of existing problems I wish you the best and people who are abusing get help or do something else and stop makeing it so hard for us that really do need it to live a normal life god bless I wish you all the best.

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its nasty but it gets the rush on about 3 pulls from a 40. vinegar breaks it down mix with half distilled water and add a lil heat woohoo again friends, the white will disipate and leave a clerish glob of gluey booger that is the waste from the extend release go me

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to grandpappy joe as im sure we all appreciate your opinion on this site as you judge people and label them, which i do agree with your point of that purdue will most definately not go broke, you should probably not call people retarded, you think there are people out there who have retarted sons , sisters ,brothers and friends not really a good comparison term and as you are entitled to form opinions on others and again i agree i read some very stupid remarks on here and folks do so stray from subject matter at time, i noticed you had to opinion related to any type of medication or medication issue,you just spouted negativity, be nice dont use retarted as a comparison and please brush up on your spelling its terrible. have a great evening!! madashell (that my meds dont give me the pain relief as they used to) but what can we do, just be glad for what we have and thank god for each new day!!!!!

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its almost hard to believe wha some of you retards are saying. im remembering what my mom told me when i was a little boy. before you say somthing, stop take 5 seconds and think about what your about to ay. you know kinda filter it. now to me its quite obvious some f you people ave not been using this filter. like you mr war on drugs is bad do you seriously expect me to believe that bexcause they changed the formula the pharmacutical companies are gonna go broke lol. they are right up there with the tobbaco industry and arms manufactures. believe me they are not going broke just because your junkie ass cant snort your pills anymore. im not sure if your aware either but this horrible heroin you speak of was inventd by a comany called bayer you know those people who make birth control and asprin. either way i sem o be straying from my point. i feel most of you here arnt thinkig logically your more thinking about how your gonna get your next fix and thats why these companies are doing this. you cant seriously sit here and tell me the country is gonna come to an end and these companies will go bankrupt and every one will die. mr war on drugs i must say you have to be one of the most uneducated imbred retarted americans ive ever ran across and i think you need to set ur mind ight n stop letting the drugs do your thinking for you because as far as i can see you sound hoplessly retarted

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ALSO; AS YOU CAN ONLY GET ROUGHLY HALF THE PILL INTO POWER YOU SNIFF AND IT PROVIDES THE INSTANTANIOUS RUSH THEN CHEW REMAINDER AND IT WILL KICK IN FULL FORCE IN 20-30 MIN

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WAY TO MAKE OP OC INTO FINE POWDER FOR SNORTING; hold the pill against table, take a knife and gently start sawing back and forth, powder will shoot out everywhere once 3/4 to the other side of pill turn 90degrees and saw back and forth in opposite direction; WORKS GREAT

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You are all fools for sniffing these pills !!The pill is ment to dissolve in stomach acid not your lungs!! Particals from the pills stick to your lungs and in time you will develop lesions that turn into tumors that becomes CANCER save yourself while you can and stop abusing this medicine and go get help for your own good these things turn your Brain into mush and ruin your life !!Trust me stop while you can you can all do it !! Bless you all

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Palmsprings,ca22 hey man I know what you mean about sports and injuries i had my first major surgery at 14 years old, tore my patella tendon off the bone broke my leg tore mcl and destroyed my knee had a screw and staple put in. took forever to recover and play basketball again.I played every thing, football, baseball, track, you name it and ten years latter and six major surgery's im in pain every day. i can tell you one thing with so many people abusing these meds I have the hardest time getting any type of relief, was in pm for three years no problems then doc says you are too young cant take these forever and stops prescribing to me just like that, says dea looks at people under 30 taking pills very had. it is a fight every day cant even walk any more no cartilage in right knee but too young for knee replacement so i go get shots in knees every thing you can think of still not helping jump though sooo many hoops for them go to best doctors in country when had insurance but no relief. now too expensive and insurance wont pay pre-existing the system sucks and people who abuse these make it so hard for people in pain.

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Have any of you ever considered having a pain pump implanted, the advantages are you'll always have pain control, no matter where you go, being a pain patient can attach you to your doctors with umbilical cords, what good is getting quality of life back if you can't travel (yep..had 1 pain doc release me because I went to another country to watch my grandchild being born)
So far Ive had one for 6 yrs, first last almost 6, then current one I have had every problem in the book with, but even on my bad days, it is still better than worrying whether today the FBI will knock down your pain docs door.The Gov't needs to stay the hell out of the doctor/patient relationship, neither should pharmascists second guess their prescriptions...everyone is so worried because all of the diversion/misuse, take that away, and many ppl would have a better quality of life.

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Far from high and certainly not that mighty anymore.
I don't have any experience with HOW they work, taken properly, except by my self...personally, I got better pain relief when I was on 2-30's every 8 hours, these 80's jumble my mind, make me hyperactive, nauseated, and talk a hundred miles an hour...but I feel high on them, and am not about chasing that, I am grateful my main method will be functioning again soon and I can flush these. They really do suck, and I mentioned splitting one because i read of people not being able to break these, even with hammer/pliars, which I found to be just one of those things I saw for myself, I did end up taking half, and was so high for 6 hours i was afraid to go to sleep...thats not pain control, thats outtta control...no thanks.

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naughty nurse newsflash,i am a legitimate pain patient and i take my meds right,so you saying stuff about people dont bother me as much as you being high and mighty, then you say how you cut your pills in half, they are supposed to be taKEN WHOLE, but im sure you know that i t want the pain relief they used to get i know that is all i want is for them to work!!!

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These new oxycontin op are the worst!!!! Husband was on the old formula of oxycontins 40mg been on them for the last 2 years due to back surgery. He was put on the 80 mg oxycontins last month and was fine but this month of October has just been bad!!!!! He has been so sick on them.... throwing up and just has been so sick on them. Plus the time release has just been a nightmare. It take forever. Just praying that they go bck to the old formula. He has no life with all the pain..back in bed and can hardly move. S***ty ass goverment and big pharmacy companies. Things are just going to get worst with the ones who use for fun. Good Luck to all those who are in pain....God bless

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oh and btw...I REALLY do not get ANY so called legitimate pain patient's who are concerned about BUZZ EQUALITY or how to bypass the timed release factor on the pill so they can use it in a way other than how it was prescribed..the reason this pisses me off so much is this IS EXACTLY why it is hard to find docs comfortable with prescribing opiates for the appropriate treatment of severe intactable pain of any nature.Don't you see I have read these blogs, docs read em, feds read em..this type of bulls**t is WHY someone who is truely suffering cannot get pain relief we are entitled to. YES, I did say entitled, it is a human right to NOT suffer...but the whole bad apples spoiling the whole bunch rule applies here...docs read this and must freak out, hell, I have been on and off narcs 15 yrs after breaking my back and reading this freaked the hell outta me...how are you expecting any of us true pain patients to be taken seriously when forums like this exists where shooting/sniffing, medicaid/medicare fraud (getting then selling/trading meds not to mention other feloneous activities).. are spoke of like a day at the beach. NOTHING you ever post is private, I know you all must know that..I came to this forum to see what all were so upset about just because they improved a medication...which I happen to take..this is very sad, indeed. :-(

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Just got my new rx filled, oxy 80, they are the op's, and after reading all of this I got out my handy pill splitter (2 bucks) it chopped it in half without any difficulties.Although I would never crush/shoot/sniff this stuff, I realllly find it hard to believe that these topics are discussed so openly here, like they can't trace your IP address? Brave folks..I do have to say, addiction is an ugly thing, fortunatley, I take meds for intractible pain and have never abused them, get 180 of whatever I want at a time,I also have an implanted pain pump., please be careful...if you are misusing your meds, get help...try to quit if your just using them for fun, the worst withdrawel I ever had from opiates has been chills, goosebumps, legs twitching and hellacious stomach ache/diarhhea...that was it, when my pump quit working I didn't even know I was IN withdrawel until I went to the ER...
please everyone be safe...
alcoholism and addiction can only end one of 2 ways, in jail, or in the ground.
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To all out there, Ethex is a distributor for Purdue threw Walgreens. Purdue bought Ethex but the Walgreens here in California ,Sonoma County ,will be running out from what the pharmists said and it will only be the Purdue OP after that. It seems done. And the Oxy IRs are gone also. Now this Opanas ER and and maybeOpana IR with TimerX in them will be pushed on the patients. It is the way that all chewed crush or IV'd is being stopped to the best of the DEA FDA and all against those who use drugs for everything but pain. Where are the brains out there who just cant stand being told YOU CAN'T going to come up with the breaking down ,what they have built up. I know your out there, make them cry, come on MAKE THEM CRY. I myself only take them as directed for pain but it has changed the dose I should recieve and i vomit up flem looking stringy substance that you can see that the drug particles are being held and havent been released. Been given the Opana ERs and my head had so much pressure like foggy feeling and ears ringing, throat tight, sick vomiting and no appetite. I have reaction to mixing different chemicals and my body will not handle them . skin rash itches, drys out, nails peel, hard lumps on my face, and under my arm, in hair line, in ears. All in my upper body where the drug and chemicals stay until I vomit and leaving before my dose has been deliverd. Its crazy. And I want a great pain reliver but what would be the best from these OXY 80mg Opana Er, what would be the best to take. I do not want another Time Release pill again. Any one have a name of something that might be a good choice. These Dr. are not caring anymore. or for me I must watch what I take cause I could have a reaction. If someone has an idea I'd like to compare their choice.

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