New Florida Law Prohibiting Drs From Prescribing Oxycodone To Patients With Chronic Pain (Page 2)

My dr said they were limiting prescribing oxys to just cancer patients, took me off oxy 30s and now im on 4mg hydromorphones. Pain doesn't stop. What can i do?

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Re: w john (# 17)

Are you the one who posted about your beautiful, highly intelligent son who had a horrible decline after being prescribed Lyrica? Or something like Lyrica? Maybe it was Neurontin? If so, how is he doing now? Forgive me if I have that wrong.

Oh yes, the old pee on my head saying. Has great pertinence now, I'd say. That's what they are doing. Is it even possible that our doctors are dumber than their patients when it comes to what is happening with our meds? Do you think, maybe, that they actually buy this malarky? Has there ever been a time like this before? When the PATIENTS are being discriminated against? The patients, without which there would be NO practice? Not young, but not so dottering that I can't see the insanity in this. Wait....I must just be depressed. The depression is making me feel pain that really isn't all THAT bad. Well, not so bad that I should expect the very meds/treatment pain medicines were developed for. No, darn it, if I weren't so lonely, unfulfilled, even so self focused, I would not be at the doctors office looking for treatment. Heck, I guess I could use a few happy pills. Maybe then I wouldn't notice my legs vibrating at night, with pain, or I would be able to rest my heels on my bed instead of hanging my feet off to avoid any and all pressure, which causes my imaginary, depression caused pain. It's not chronic inflammation, stupid, it's depression. That's NOT PEE ON MY HEAD!!!! IT'S RAIN! Thanks John. I actually found that funny!

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Re: w john (# 20)

I agree with you. That governor was simply ahead of his time, doncha think? What he said in the 80's would be applauded today. Chronic pain sufferers are just one effective oxy away from being productive members of society, yet, the consensus seems to be our need for effective treatment is the reason that abusers are abusing. Yep. If that handicapper had any sense at all, he'd quit blathering and begging his doc for pain meds, then Johnny wouldn't be tempted to steal his gramps meds. Besides, if Johnny, can't find the meds, it's only because gramps is out selling them on the street corner. Maybe even to Johnny.

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Re: JMJ (# 21)

Part of your post I said. The part about a "son" with issues was somebody else. I do have a son that has had 5 back surgeries and was on pain medication for a time but he was weaned off and quit taking the pain meds as directed by his Doctor.

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Re: Dan (# 1)

Don't know if it's a law, but most Drs who are afraid of losing their license and are cowards are making this move... Apparently this med (dilaudid generic) has less of a street name....had a friend with cancer who had to make this switch even though it made her terribly sick (God rest her soul).

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Re: JMJ (# 19)

Oh my goodness gracious!! I love a good laugh, that was a good one, “turd in the punch bowl“. Oh I can hardly type I’m laughing sooo... thank you :) It’s so heartbreaking that we as chronic pain patients are being flushed down the swamp hole, I shake my head in disbelief at the atrocities and lies, if the government could tax pain meds, believe you me, we wouldn’t be going through this. The tax on alcohol and cigarettes, big bucks, that’s why they don’t say a damn word about the epidemic on that horizon, and we all know alcoholism / smoking related deaths far outnumber that of our “opioid epidemic“. Who are they going to blame when they finally get what they want? Is the heroin epidemic going to change because prescription opioids no longer exist? What bs lies are they going to come up with to explain why they found yet, another poor young victim dead of ?? Hmmmm, got rid of the opioid crisis and still have a big problem... DUH. Thank you for my good laugh, that’s a rare thing for me lately.

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Re: JMJ (# 21)

Ohhhhh dear, I’m laughing again. I loved how you vented!!! Please, I’m not laughing at you, I’m laughing because I too was trying to tell my pain, “pain, this is all in your head, you really don’t exist. It’s my depression that’s causing migraines, limb numbness, spine burning, la la la so on and so forth". I wonder if psych drs make house calls in the middle of the night cuz I need someone that can sing me a lullaby while rocking me back to sleep. I bet that there is an epidemic of chronic pain patients looking for a good nights sleep. Hello Mr J. Sessions, who do ya know wants to rock me to sleep???

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Re: Dan (# 1)

Isn’t a chronic pain patient considered terminally ill? You will not get better unless someone treats you. I’ve been living with chronic pain for over 25 years. Isn’t that considered terminal. If a dr won’t prescribe the right medicine or treat the problem, it will never get better. That’s the meaning of terminal in my book. Just because there are medications out there doesn’t mean anyone is going to get it. Again, terminal. I’m sick & tired of people thinking that this is not a problem. It is! Give you garbage that does not work can actually do more harm. And now, tell you to take some marijuana! Did you ever see that happening before? It’s time to fix this problem once and for all. They are worried that these meds will get to the streets, then someone is doing something wrong. My meds never leave my side & can’t afford to give them to anyone else. Also, there’s not enough money someone can give me to give up my meds. Please, Congress is targeting the wrong people.

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Re: Mare (# 27)

By your definition we are ALL “terminal”. One day everyone is going to die. Your definition is tortured and contrived. There is a big difference in “going to die one day” if I am not treated correctly and be given six months to live, for example. I’ll take the former.

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Re: Dan (# 1)

Government regulation and manipulation of Doctor/Patient relationships is perverted and evil.

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Re: Dan (# 1)

99% probability of it being a lie due to the prescription hydromorphone being the one you were changed to.... A LIE....Hydromorphone is a strange drug. It is usually one for terminal patients but has its benefits like most when used in a routine of other medications. I have used hydromorphone off & on since the 80's. By prescription only, and it was useful earlier in my life. The last 3 years though it lost its effectiveness on my pain from injuries, especially after surgeries relieved alot of the nerve pains. It doesn't seem very good at helping with chronic arthritus conditions.

It is just a plain war on the 30mg oxycodone variant of pain control is all I can conclude. Switching BACK to oxycodone in my pain medication has left me stuck on 15mg dose for 6 months now with an original promise of going back to the 30mg. It's unbelievable. I have had the "lie" of the CDC has said this tried couple years ago. I looked right at my doctor & said "the CDC has no governing authority over any medical in this country, let alone between me & my physician" to which he said "YOUR RIGHT"! I was one of the only ones that did not get my prescriptions cut to ridiculous levels and watched his entire patient roster turn over in 2-3 months. People leaving, new ones coming in and that wasn't tried again by him.

In Georgia a person has to receive 60mg's a day or more to even be considered a "pain patient" but most doctors are limiting the amount of mg's they will write per day including both prescriptions of extended relief & immediate release medications to about 120mg's. I need at least 200mg's - 240mg's a day to just maintain a level of relief that allows a decent life.

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Re: Cactus Arizona (# 7)

Hi,
I am in Virginia maybe moving to Fort Myer will need a Dr. I have had all my meds chopped to hell. I have to many things to list wrong with me. If you took Opana Oxymorphone ER is the generic of Opana. I lost my Oxymorphone 40 mg and I only get 20 Mg of Percocet. I am hurting so bad. He does not care about my pain. Please if you can name someone anybody help me I will be so grateful.

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Re: sandyparris14jki (# 31)

There is a pain management Doctor in Estero, Fl. He is real good. That is about 20 miles from Ft. Myers. Look up pain management in Estero, Fl and you will find the company and Doctors name.

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Re: Kelly (# 29)

Better complain to the public because it is the public that is causing this “opioid epidemic” to be such a hot button topic. I cannot think of even ONE politician of any political stripe that is standing up for chronic pain patients and saying “enough is enough”. The politicians will do and say anything that is a hot button topic to get votes. Even though it is the street heroin users and fentanyl users and those that steal pain meds from their relatives and stealing from the pharmacies that are causing a large percentage of the problems, the problem is being blamed on LEGAL pain med patients.

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MareI (# 27) --

I have never shared lost or had my meds stolen. I agree if I could get my Oxymorphone back there is no money I could be offered. I am in so much pain I still in Virginia and need a real Pain Management Doctor.

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Re: Sandy (# 34)

I totally agree with you. Neither have I. It just an excuse for the government uses as a reason to put pressure on the pain drs. That’s why my doctor no longer has a problem since I have had a pain pump implanted. He can filled with it with what is needed. If I still have pain, he will adjust the meds in the pump as well as how much is delivered to my system.

I know it sounds strange but I no longer have to worry about taking meds by mouth or if I fall asleep & waking up in debilitating pain. When I used take oral meds & I would fall asleep, the pain was so bad that I could never get to the point when the pain would calm down.

I still have other meds I take by mouth when I get breakthrough pain. I truly understand where you’re coming from. I’ve been there and there are times when I’m still in pain. I also went to a pain management class to understand exactly why the pain gets out of control & the effects of chasing the pain. I don’t know how long you have been on your meds but what happens when they no longer work. It started happening to me. Many people don’t understand what it’s like to be in tremendous pain & cannot get relief. Being in chronic pain since 1994, I get how difficult it must be for you and everyone else who suffers from chronic pain. I was only offering another option. I used to go to my pain amanagement dr every month but since the pump, I no longer have to go every 27 days. Now I see him every 2-2 1/2 months. I still have pain but at least I have some days where I can tolerate it. Other days not so much. I wish I could stop everything if only they would fix the problem with my back. Unfortunately Workers Comp has a say in my care as well. They will always take the cheapest route. Between them & the government not much gets approved.

When I spoke about them worrying about them getting on the streets, it is meant for the people who doctor shop & my Dr was the one who said it. Not legitimate chronic pain patients. I’m with you on it. You need to ask your Dr. why he lowered your dose. I may not agree with it having been in that situation before. But that’s between you & your Dr.

I wish we can all be pain free but that will never happen if insurance companies, pharmacies & the government keep interfering with our care. I wish you only the best & hope you get the relief you need.

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Re: Chris (# 4)

Hey there these laws are killing,chronic pain pts my clinic was unexpectedly shut down i live in tn depending on what causes your CP u can start going to pallative care theyre not obligated to follow the law of these criminals practicing,medicine without a license which for anyone else would,be a felony look into pallative care for your area its not hospice its for ppl w multiple health conditions thats causing agonizing pain and no quality of life also these are not laws theyre guidelines but unfortunately the DEA and CDC are not treating it like that its a witch hunt and unfortunately us compliant prs are paying a very high price

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Re: w john (# 11)

It's still an up hill battle. I do live in Florida and laws are changing. Month to month you never know what's next. Plus it isn't over when you leave the doctor. Then it starts all over in the pharmacy. It's very scary. We must act. We have nothing to say about anything. The government makes changes as they want. This is really out of control. Dr's are afraid to prescribe for pain Dea is viscous!

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Re: Alan (# 37)

My family was an original Florida settling family and named an area and homesteaded the same area. I have lived in Florida twice for a few years at a time. I do not live there now but I am strongly thinking that I will move back. The last time I moved there Florida was like the wild, wild west as far as pain prescriptions are concerned. There were so called “pain clinics” everywhere. There were no limitations on pain prescriptions or the number of pills a person received everyday. The left hand did not know what the right hand was doing. These “pain clinics” were nothing more than pill mills. Walk in get a prescription for 100 40 mg oxycodone and walk right outside and sell them for an exorbitant markup and drive right down the street and repeat the same procedure. They finally got a grip on this but they went too far the other way. Now getting a pain script is extremely difficult and getting it filled is another situation. Before I move back I want to make sure that I will not have any problems. The laws and regulations are changed so often it is almost imposssible to know what the rules and laws are at any given moment.

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I live in So. Cal. All the Walgreens in the Inland empire are out of oxycodone/acetaminophen, on back order they say. Do you believe these people? Maybe next week my wife is in terrible pain and walgreens wants to save a buck and deny their patients their medication by going to suppliers who can't supply. This company's gone to hell since switzerland buyers took it over. Terrible people and management.

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Re: Jd (# 39)

Walgreen’s is not unable to order all of the oxycodone/aceraminophen they need. They do this on purpose. They have been instructed by their management to tell anyone that presents a prescription for ANY opioid medication to tell the presenter of the script that they are out of this particular pain medication. I used to fill my scripts there for over 20 years and they never had any trouble filling my scripts. Then all of the pharmacy holdups started and the major pharmacies just started telling everyone that they were out of whichever opioid medication the script was written for. If a person came through the drive through and asked if they had any__________pills they always said they were out. They figured if they said they had the pills that the person would say “thank you” and drive off and tell one of their cohorts that the pills were there and then the “cohort” would come in within a few minutes and rob the pharmacy because they would know the pharmacy had the pills available. I know they told me that they were out several times, even though they knew me and had filled my prescriptions for YEARS. Miraculously, they would always send me a text a few hours later saying they could fill my prescription even after they told me they would be out for a few days. Walgreen’s has proven to be an abusive group of liars and all at managements direction. They figure that f they can offend and runoff all of the people that try to fill opioid prescriptions then they will not have to deal with the issue. If Walgreens never filled another Schedule 2 prescription then that would make them happy. If they are known to NOT have medications on hand then I guess they figure that they will not have to deal with robberies and other problems that could potentially come with filling these scripts. Walgreens needs to lose every insurance company contract they have although that will never happen. If they are 2 cents cheaper the insurance company will make this a “preferred” pharmacy thereby making it difficult to get any Schedule 2 scripts filled.

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