New Florida Law Prohibiting Drs From Prescribing Oxycodone To Patients With Chronic Pain
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My dr said they were limiting prescribing oxys to just cancer patients, took me off oxy 30s and now im on 4mg hydromorphones. Pain doesn't stop. What can i do?

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Re: w john (# 11)

And these are Guidelines they want Drs to follow, not LAWS, like so many doctors claim to their patients.... Hugsss...

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Re: Sissy (# 16)

Yep I agree..people in chronic pain that can't get their Meds are going to give up on life because they can't take the pain anymore. The DEA will blame it on the opioid addictions. What a sad situation.

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Re: Chris (# 4)

This is more than likely a result of the CDC guidelines. It has sent health care for pain patients into a crisis for many.

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Re: Dan (# 1)

Dan, there NEVER was a law only a recommendation letter from the almighty CDC! Isn't it quite appalling how a medical doctor who took an oath to help people is so scared of the CDC and their recommendations? There sure are some weak a** doctors out there. I have a whole list of genuine issues that cause severe pain and all proven by an MRI and the SS disability that I was approved for as soon as I applied and they sent me for an Xray. I am not a drug seeker but can't get any relief from constant agonizing pain. I have a vertebra slipping towards my spinal cord that causes my legs to lose all feeling and have to physically move them w/ my hands when rolling over during sleep. I also have scoliosis, stenosis, a fracture and arthritis and one 10 mg. Hydrocodone is supposed to help this kind of pain taken every 12 hours??!!! Also I am prescribed 10 mg. of methadone, a joke, that stuff does nothing for pain!! When you're actually punching your hips and lower back trying to get relief there's something terribly wrong with this whole situation. My doctor had me come in every 3 mos., which is 75 miles one way because there are no doctors in my city who will RX, now wants me there every 2 mos. Right now I have absolutely no way to get there and they won't electronically send my RX's to my pharmacy til I can get a ride. My ride is working out of town for the next 3 weeks and no one and I do mean NO one is going to drive me 75 miles one way to take me to my dr. How can this be legal? They normally send it elec. anyway so what would it hurt them to do it one time? Been a patient for 4 yrs and have never done anything wrong. I just wished I didn't have any pain so I wouldn't have to deal with any of this ridiculous B.S! Nothing but a rigamaroll.

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Re: Mare (# 43)

I go to everything where I hope to comment and add to the document to get help it is again closed .

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Re: Dan (# 1)

Get a copy of this so called memo & find out who sent it. It may be just an excuse to stop perscribing them or the dr is being watched on how many patients he or she is writing scripts for. It also be the government sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong. Lastly, find a new pain manager.

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Re: Mike (# 9)

Please tell people to go to this site and tell their story. I'm not only fighting failed back surgery but colitis... some days I'm afraid to leave the house and others too drained from the restroom use.

They can tell their story here: regulations.gov/docket?D=FDA-2018-N-1621

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Stop interfering with Doctor Patient relationships ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS GOVERNMENT.

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Re: Jd (# 39)

Walgreen’s is not unable to order all of the oxycodone/aceraminophen they need. They do this on purpose. They have been instructed by their management to tell anyone that presents a prescription for ANY opioid medication to tell the presenter of the script that they are out of this particular pain medication. I used to fill my scripts there for over 20 years and they never had any trouble filling my scripts. Then all of the pharmacy holdups started and the major pharmacies just started telling everyone that they were out of whichever opioid medication the script was written for. If a person came through the drive through and asked if they had any__________pills they always said they were out. They figured if they said they had the pills that the person would say “thank you” and drive off and tell one of their cohorts that the pills were there and then the “cohort” would come in within a few minutes and rob the pharmacy because they would know the pharmacy had the pills available. I know they told me that they were out several times, even though they knew me and had filled my prescriptions for YEARS. Miraculously, they would always send me a text a few hours later saying they could fill my prescription even after they told me they would be out for a few days. Walgreen’s has proven to be an abusive group of liars and all at managements direction. They figure that f they can offend and runoff all of the people that try to fill opioid prescriptions then they will not have to deal with the issue. If Walgreens never filled another Schedule 2 prescription then that would make them happy. If they are known to NOT have medications on hand then I guess they figure that they will not have to deal with robberies and other problems that could potentially come with filling these scripts. Walgreens needs to lose every insurance company contract they have although that will never happen. If they are 2 cents cheaper the insurance company will make this a “preferred” pharmacy thereby making it difficult to get any Schedule 2 scripts filled.

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I live in So. Cal. All the Walgreens in the Inland empire are out of oxycodone/acetaminophen, on back order they say. Do you believe these people? Maybe next week my wife is in terrible pain and walgreens wants to save a buck and deny their patients their medication by going to suppliers who can't supply. This company's gone to hell since switzerland buyers took it over. Terrible people and management.

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Re: Alan (# 37)

My family was an original Florida settling family and named an area and homesteaded the same area. I have lived in Florida twice for a few years at a time. I do not live there now but I am strongly thinking that I will move back. The last time I moved there Florida was like the wild, wild west as far as pain prescriptions are concerned. There were so called “pain clinics” everywhere. There were no limitations on pain prescriptions or the number of pills a person received everyday. The left hand did not know what the right hand was doing. These “pain clinics” were nothing more than pill mills. Walk in get a prescription for 100 40 mg oxycodone and walk right outside and sell them for an exorbitant markup and drive right down the street and repeat the same procedure. They finally got a grip on this but they went too far the other way. Now getting a pain script is extremely difficult and getting it filled is another situation. Before I move back I want to make sure that I will not have any problems. The laws and regulations are changed so often it is almost imposssible to know what the rules and laws are at any given moment.

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Re: w john (# 11)

It's still an up hill battle. I do live in Florida and laws are changing. Month to month you never know what's next. Plus it isn't over when you leave the doctor. Then it starts all over in the pharmacy. It's very scary. We must act. We have nothing to say about anything. The government makes changes as they want. This is really out of control. Dr's are afraid to prescribe for pain Dea is viscous!

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Re: Chris (# 4)

Hey there these laws are killing,chronic pain pts my clinic was unexpectedly shut down i live in tn depending on what causes your CP u can start going to pallative care theyre not obligated to follow the law of these criminals practicing,medicine without a license which for anyone else would,be a felony look into pallative care for your area its not hospice its for ppl w multiple health conditions thats causing agonizing pain and no quality of life also these are not laws theyre guidelines but unfortunately the DEA and CDC are not treating it like that its a witch hunt and unfortunately us compliant prs are paying a very high price

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Re: Sandy (# 34)

I totally agree with you. Neither have I. It just an excuse for the government uses as a reason to put pressure on the pain drs. That’s why my doctor no longer has a problem since I have had a pain pump implanted. He can filled with it with what is needed. If I still have pain, he will adjust the meds in the pump as well as how much is delivered to my system.

I know it sounds strange but I no longer have to worry about taking meds by mouth or if I fall asleep & waking up in debilitating pain. When I used take oral meds & I would fall asleep, the pain was so bad that I could never get to the point when the pain would calm down.

I still have other meds I take by mouth when I get breakthrough pain. I truly understand where you’re coming from. I’ve been there and there are times when I’m still in pain. I also went to a pain management class to understand exactly why the pain gets out of control & the effects of chasing the pain. I don’t know how long you have been on your meds but what happens when they no longer work. It started happening to me. Many people don’t understand what it’s like to be in tremendous pain & cannot get relief. Being in chronic pain since 1994, I get how difficult it must be for you and everyone else who suffers from chronic pain. I was only offering another option. I used to go to my pain amanagement dr every month but since the pump, I no longer have to go every 27 days. Now I see him every 2-2 1/2 months. I still have pain but at least I have some days where I can tolerate it. Other days not so much. I wish I could stop everything if only they would fix the problem with my back. Unfortunately Workers Comp has a say in my care as well. They will always take the cheapest route. Between them & the government not much gets approved.

When I spoke about them worrying about them getting on the streets, it is meant for the people who doctor shop & my Dr was the one who said it. Not legitimate chronic pain patients. I’m with you on it. You need to ask your Dr. why he lowered your dose. I may not agree with it having been in that situation before. But that’s between you & your Dr.

I wish we can all be pain free but that will never happen if insurance companies, pharmacies & the government keep interfering with our care. I wish you only the best & hope you get the relief you need.

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MareI (# 27) --

I have never shared lost or had my meds stolen. I agree if I could get my Oxymorphone back there is no money I could be offered. I am in so much pain I still in Virginia and need a real Pain Management Doctor.

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Re: Kelly (# 29)

Better complain to the public because it is the public that is causing this “opioid epidemic” to be such a hot button topic. I cannot think of even ONE politician of any political stripe that is standing up for chronic pain patients and saying “enough is enough”. The politicians will do and say anything that is a hot button topic to get votes. Even though it is the street heroin users and fentanyl users and those that steal pain meds from their relatives and stealing from the pharmacies that are causing a large percentage of the problems, the problem is being blamed on LEGAL pain med patients.

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Re: sandyparris14jki (# 31)

There is a pain management Doctor in Estero, Fl. He is real good. That is about 20 miles from Ft. Myers. Look up pain management in Estero, Fl and you will find the company and Doctors name.

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Re: Cactus Arizona (# 7)

Hi,
I am in Virginia maybe moving to Fort Myer will need a Dr. I have had all my meds chopped to hell. I have to many things to list wrong with me. If you took Opana Oxymorphone ER is the generic of Opana. I lost my Oxymorphone 40 mg and I only get 20 Mg of Percocet. I am hurting so bad. He does not care about my pain. Please if you can name someone anybody help me I will be so grateful.

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Re: Dan (# 1)

99% probability of it being a lie due to the prescription hydromorphone being the one you were changed to.... A LIE....Hydromorphone is a strange drug. It is usually one for terminal patients but has its benefits like most when used in a routine of other medications. I have used hydromorphone off & on since the 80's. By prescription only, and it was useful earlier in my life. The last 3 years though it lost its effectiveness on my pain from injuries, especially after surgeries relieved alot of the nerve pains. It doesn't seem very good at helping with chronic arthritus conditions.

It is just a plain war on the 30mg oxycodone variant of pain control is all I can conclude. Switching BACK to oxycodone in my pain medication has left me stuck on 15mg dose for 6 months now with an original promise of going back to the 30mg. It's unbelievable. I have had the "lie" of the CDC has said this tried couple years ago. I looked right at my doctor & said "the CDC has no governing authority over any medical in this country, let alone between me & my physician" to which he said "YOUR RIGHT"! I was one of the only ones that did not get my prescriptions cut to ridiculous levels and watched his entire patient roster turn over in 2-3 months. People leaving, new ones coming in and that wasn't tried again by him.

In Georgia a person has to receive 60mg's a day or more to even be considered a "pain patient" but most doctors are limiting the amount of mg's they will write per day including both prescriptions of extended relief & immediate release medications to about 120mg's. I need at least 200mg's - 240mg's a day to just maintain a level of relief that allows a decent life.

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Re: Dan (# 1)

Government regulation and manipulation of Doctor/Patient relationships is perverted and evil.

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