I Have Safely Taken My Pain Medications For 10 Years Without Ever Having A Problem, My Md Will No Longer Prescibe, It Is Unfair To The Patient
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I have been on Fiorinal w Codeine and Fioricet as well as Valium for Sleep. I have 3 herniated disks in my back, Scloroisis, Nerve Damage in my left leg and Chronic Migraines. No Doctors in Rhode Island will any longer prescribe medication, if they do it is only one medication, I used to get all 3 of my medications for these problems from one Doctor who was my primary until he informed me that he could no longer write those. If anyone know's anyone in Rhode Island Please Help!

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Re: Dennise (# 1)

Hi. I’m sorry your in this situation, I can totally relate. I’ve had 2 back surgery’s recently and was prescribed pain medication once the Dr. released me he advised if I was still experiencing pain I should go to a pain management center,I did just that and I was denied pain meds because I failed to let them know I not only had Oxycodone I was also prescribed Hydrocodone and was taking it for my on going pain. I failed the drug panel and they said there was nothing they do for me except for injections! They were also rude and they made feel like I was using pain meds for the wrong reason. I’m not sure any Dr. will prescribe you any more meds I surprised you were able to get them for so long. Maybe try a pain management center, I went to Comprehensive pain center in Warwick. Please when filling out your application to list all and every med you are taking. The application is extensive and it takes a while to get your first appointment, but if you fill out the app. telling them everything I think they will give you what you need. Just letting you know on my last appointment with my surgeon he explained why he couldn’t give me any more meds. They are very controlled and they could loose their license. Good luck!!

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Re: lanie (# 10)

Pain management is the answer in my opinion. I am in pain management and I have no issues with my pain management doctor or his PA. Good luck!

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I am so sorry for what you are going through! I took Fiorinal and Fioricet for many years for migraines. My pcp told me that they normally don't prescribe it anymore and had me start taking pain meds as I didn't want to use the migraine meds which was a personal choice. Maybe your pcp can provide you an alternative!

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Re: Ladyinpain (# 4)

So go to a pain doctor, that’s what everybody else has to do. The only objection I had to it was when I had Medicaid because the only pain doctor in the state that would take Medicaid was a pill mill and I didn’t want to be associated with a place like that especially because when they came along and shut it down and took his license all those patients were left with nobody all of the sudden. I don’t understand people‘s objection to go into a pain clinic as long as they have insurance. Why don’t you do that so your doctor can actually do regular stuff for other people. Do you know the primary care doctors are kind of busy right now because we’ve had a plague circulating for 2 1/2 years.

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Good gosh!! Those are not heavy duty meds, narcotics in the smallest sense as for the fiorinal or cet, valium is a pretty tame benzo, too. If it works, what the hell is the problem? Sorry but I'm not convinced that some docs don't take great pleasure in holding it over the patients. Not necessarily your pcp & others who've been reduced to having their rx privileges taken away. What a slap in their faces. This bulls*** is out of control. If they aren't going to prescribe the meds that make life better for patients who need them then go to the source and halt production of them. Just eliminate them then nobody can have them. F the barbarians!! Quit playing games & just do away with the stuff. And before the docs can do procedures and operate, drug test them too.

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Re: Ladyinpain (# 4)

I am in NY. I take 600 mg of Gabapentin at night for severe nerve pain and .05 mg of Klonopin. Usually, I sleep like a baby. I have the nerve pain from spinal stenosis, herniated discs between L4 and L5 and S1. My back is also sliding out of place.

For severe migraines, since I was 12, I'm now 69, I get 30 Fioricets w/ 30 mg of codeine every 3 months. I go to a clinic. Not as good as the midrin and codeine I used to get. 50-50mg codeine tablets every 6 months but better than nothing.

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Re: Ladyinpain (# 4)

I am in NY. I take 600 mg of Gabapentin at night for severe nerve pain and .05 mg of Klonopin. Usually, I sleep like a baby. I have the nerve pain from spinal stenosis, herniated discs between L4 and L5 and S1. My back is also sliding out of place.

For severe migraines, since I was 12, I'm now 69, I get 30 Fioricets w/ 30 mg of codeine every 3 months. I go to a clinic. Not as good as the midrin and codeine I used to get. 50-50mg codeine tablets every 6 months but better than nothing.

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Re: BL (# 15)

How could you possibly know if this patient has chronic pain or not simply by reading his/her post? You should use your amazing talent to make us all rich !????

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BL, I couldn't have said it better myself. Litigious minded former patients although their position may be based in fact the burden of proof is so overwhelming most attorneys wouldn't touch these cases with a 10 foot pole. Even the threat of litigation isn't compelling enough because as these actions (much like online petitions, protests and the like) when it comes to actually following through most fail to take action when it counts.

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WillChill RnMS, the circumstances needed for a successful malpractice suit because a doctor will not longer prescribe a medication is very rare. It is the patients responsibility to find a new doctor. Threats of suing may make it harder if not impossible for a patient to find a new doctor in these circumstances.

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Well it is his responsibility to see that you transition safely to someone else. It's not yours. He's the one that caused this problem for you. Call the office now and insist he find you an MD or you will sue him for negligent malpractice. He was all afraid of the the DEA, well now he needs to shake a bit because it's not right to put a patient in chronic pain off of these meds cold turkey. That's what I would do because I know it's what will make him look at you as serious. It's nuts to treat patents like this without an alternative solution immediately accessible for you. What if it was a diabetics drug or a blood pressure drug and you risk a stroke. Well, you'll wish it was a simple stroke instead of the horrible withdrawals you'll face because of a negligent MD. You must be strong. You must know what you are talking about and stick with them, your providers day and night until you see a resolution. If your doctor is affiliated with a hospital go to the administration and raise holey hell there that this is negligent loss of treatment and you will get an attorney. (when you say attorney they listen to you). Hey, I can only tell you what I'd be doing but you have to decide if this is for you. Be on top of this so you don't fall into a trap and not have pain meds when needed.

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I hate to hear what you are going through. So many people in different states are being done that way. It's not so much the doctors but the sorry dea thinking people are using pain meds just to feel high. I know in some states like Florida they have forced people to go to the streets because they shut down so many pain management clinics. I know of a school teacher who was going to the local place in Florida to get illicit drugs everyday because her doctor had her on methadone and he quit writing for all his patients so she felt like she had no other choice. In just a matter of time she was caught going there and lost her teaching job. Her entire life was turned upside down.

Other countries have the right idea about drugs. We should not put people in jail for being hooked on illegal drugs. That's why our prison system is so full. It's full of non violent drug addicts. I realize this is not the problem you have but it's still an issue that needs to be addressed. A lot of people can't afford the Betty Ford clinic or other high dollar clinics to get through withdrawals from pain medication so they go to the streets drugs. It's destroying America. They should treat the drug addict just like someone who has a chronic disease, not as a criminal.

And another thing these high dollar clinics most of them are a real joke. My husband went into one for alcohol. The treatment consisted of group meetings like AA and a little therapy and climbing trees to get rid of your fear. It cost our insurance company $30,000.00 dollars and they billed us for ten thousand. Lol Such hypocrisy!!! He was in there for 28 days, that was when insurance ran out. Two days later he was so angry because he thought he was going to get real help but it was a joke he got good and drunk. I really couldn't blame him because of the big fat joke it turned out to be. We were not the only ones disgusted, almost everyone in there with him was. He got more help out of AA and was able to quit drinking and it didn't cost him a penny. And by the way all this applies to drug center hospital also.

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Maxundergroundchem,

It's been a year since you posted so I don't know if you still follow this board anymore. But if you do, where in Mexico do you go to get medicine? Is it a clinic or a regular doctor, or ...? I live in California and would be willing to make the drive if it saved me from the insurance referral hell i'm going thru now (I do have chronic pain, herniated discs, etc - from 50mph truck v bicycle accident). Anyway, if u do happen to see this post, u can email me {edited for privacy}. Thanks!

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This is just not try. There are no laws stopping any doc with dea registration from writing whatever pain meds they feel necessary. There are new "guidelines" from the cdc, but are just that - guidelines.

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Spyz , they aren't prescribed for other conditions for good reasons. Drs have learned a lot about opiates over the years. A NP or PA has to be overseen by a dr.

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Maxundetgroundchem--I agree 100% with what you said! What kills me is we get these nurse practitioners who are younger than our youngest child and only know what they were taught which is bunk! They have no real life experience with opiates and really have no clue to there many benefits. I get a kick out of the questionnaire with 'do you find yourself using your narcotics pain medication for things other than pain?' LOL ABSOLUTELY! Don't they know that a little over 70 years ago opiates were prescribed for depression, anxiety, high blood pressure (at one dose) low blood pressure (at another dose), allergies and 'things pertaining to women' that was the official diagnosis which included migraines, PMS, menstrual cramps, fatigue, fibro etc. once I learned all this I was able to quit taking at least 6 other medications for things from acute rhinitis, depression and the famous hot flashes of menopause. If I had a back yard I too would have a lovely poppy garden and would have a lively cup of tea every night. Aphids got my first garden . I have family in Europe where it grows like dandelions but they are fearful of postal interruptions. Good luck with your grow!

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Your doctor has been pressured and is now afraid to help you because of the hassle he will get from these stupid organizations who think everyone abuses pain meds. It is not true and bull. That would be like your grocery store not letting you buy certain groceries because some people over eat. Pain doctors are just another way to make BIG dollars. Physical Therapy is another BIG dollar program that does not always work and in fact can make it worse. I can't believe the ignorance in the U.S. these days.

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Got to agree with other guy, both of those meds aren't used for your conditions and seems odd your doctors even prescribed those to you but doesn't surprise me due to whats going on. Doctors want to look like they're trying different things and i do have degrees in pharmaceutical field and 2 years into chemistry for bachelors, so i have a small amount of education and there is no set dose for opioids, its whatever dose provides adequate relief without unmanageable side effects, thats what i learned in 2009, but the dea is up there ass because in 2004 a certain agency rated them a 0 out of a 100 and were threatened with shut down they didnt want to loose there jobs so bam and the doctors dont wana loose there jobs, bam sellouts thats what these people are putting money greed before the people of America. how long has this been going on? a long time. its not surprising to me anyway. any body in the medical field knows that opioids are one of the safest pain relief meds there is and not only that they make a more effective treatment for anxiety ptsd insomnia depression. they all know this but choose to ignore people who have degrees in human psychology and know these things. most people using illegal drugs are self medicating. any psychiatrist will tell you and would not need to abuse illegal drugs if treated in the first place. The fact of the matter is the dea needs to leave the decisions up to the people who are educated in the field. also the abuse off these drugs just drives the cost of them higher due to steps taken to tamper proof them which creates more profits. there's so many variables to this situation more than meets the eye. this will change soon tho because its just going to make things worse. I have to go into mexico to get my meds. ive got degenerative bone dessese, scoliosis, hurniated discs, pinched nerves, osteoarthritis in knees, ankles and shoulders, severe cronic pain 24/7. without meds id rather be dead. its agony. i mean withdrawing from 300mg ms contin a day and 180mg oxicodone a day was cake compared to the pain. i now have to drive to mexico every month to get what i need which is just 180 instant release morphine 30s becouse there are cheap in mexico and thats all i can afford, but its better than oxycodone 5mg 4 times a day. thats all they're willing to give me in america being 25 and all. after my degree i plan to move to a country where i can grow my own opium and make my own damn meds. i hate how they'd rather prescribe 3 4 5 6 medications that you could write a book with there side effects rather than just 1 medication with like a paragraph of possible side effects. for most peaple there are no side effects when used correctly. I do wish you the best tho on managing your pain. Everyone good luck.

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BL. You don't know what you're talking about, you have not seen my medical records.
Why don't you address Denisse, I am not the subject here, nor am I in need of your opinion. And if you can't be helpful to Denisse at least be compassionate.

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No Paddle. when I said migraines aren't chronic pain, I meant that the pain from migraines isn't constant because migraines aren't constant. Neither one of the meds you mentioned are used to treat migraines now days.

I don't understand who told you that changes in law are why your Dr can't prescribe the meds he dud before in the same dosage. With your Dr no longer prescribing Codiene for your pain, he is saying he doesn't believe your having the degree of pain you say you are. Although I'm sure your Dr has you on other meds that are suppose to help with fibro pain and ease and prevent migraines. But those meds aren't traditional pain meds.

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