How To Get Off Suboxone (Page 5)
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Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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suboxone! I can help you with that one. First of all, I have been to 3 different suboxone doctors over 3 years. All of them tell me that 24mg (3 pills) is the largest dose anyone can take because it wont work any better once you go up from 24 mg!!!! So 24 and 32 and 50 and 100 would give you the same result. And yes, at that high dose you want to start weaning(titrating off) after 2 weeks maximum. I had a detox nurse tell me that originally suboxone and subutex(its generic cousin) was made for a 12 week program. 16 weeks is max only in very "unusual cases." So normal detox would look something like week 1-24mg and keep titrating down 2mg at a time till you get to 16 and then you can decide if you want to titrate down 1 or 2 mg a week. I even know people who are so hooked on suboxone that when they get below 8 mg, they can only titrate down 1 mg at a time. AND SOME PEOPLE ONCE THEY ARE AT 4 MG CAN ONLY TAKE GOING DOWN 1/2 MG PER WEEK.

Anything longer than that is a scam doctor or someone who slept thru suboxone cert. class! I would recommend going to a rehab if you cant get below 8mg on your own. Me? My doc started me on 16mg after 3 yrs of opiate use and I was able to get down to 8mg in 2 weeks as it was way too hi a dstarting dose for me. But I have been stuck at 8mg and get so depressed I cant take it. Even at 6mg I see a big difference. If I cant get below 6 in another week, its rehab time. Often suboxone is used to get you ready for rehab so you dont suffer as much. I studied this to dfeath for 3 yrs...so I know. And yeah.most suboxone docs cant be trusted. They either want you to get off too fast or too slow. Im going for accupuncture with herbs treatment and i see its making a difference AND WILL help me get off the subs much easier. But dont be afraid to go right into a rehab if you go 3 weeks and cant go any lower on your dose. As long as you can keep going lower each week, youll be fine. But you must after a few weeks be going down every 2 weeks, much better is every week. I hope this has helped. Also your brain is influenced by what you eat....yuh think? Take as much omega 3 products and fish as you can handle. Ever notice people who eat a lot of fish every day are happier than meat eaters. Problem is the mercury if you dont knbow where the fish comes from. Look up "niacin and suboxone therapy" niacin and depression therapy" . I also hear that if you have the 6 ggrand you can go to costa rica and they have a plant that will get you off everything in one week. And I emailed over 15 people who did it successfully. 1/2 never go back. 1/2 say it lasts only 3-6 months before cravings come back. Either way its a great deal. I wish I had the 6k. I am also going to start experimenting with brainwave technologies as to me weaning off any drug or alcohol is for the stone ages. Im trying Holosync meditation cd's and fisher-wallace electronic stimulation therapy. Let us know how you do. Remember, your doctor is just your "advisor." You have to look at all the different therapies out there and pick whats right for you. No one way is right for anyone. And if you DO go into a rehab, I am hearing from a detox nurse that 60 days is the minimum to really have better than a 50/50 chance top stay clean. My research backs her up. If you cant afford it see what the state can do for you...especially if you tell them you are suicidal.

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I'm 43yr old Mum of 4 (26,19,18, n 16 yr olds) I'm in Australia. I used heavy for 16yrs then after 2 husbands 2 kids died I turned 2 methodone, stayed on it 15yrs this time last yr was dwn to 130mg I reduced in half n 1ml drops got to 30mg n seem to go stagnant so 3wks ago go dr asked about suboxone n got put on it had worst 2days after 1st dose of 6mg went bk few days later n dr just doubled it,just like that no research into me or what I should expect,now I know he,s screwing me up my aim is OFF so as only 3wks of suboxone ANY ADVISE ANY1?

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Don't worry yourself forever though Kris. It really is hard I thought I was going to be stuck on them forever, your not alone. Some people may tell you its easy to get off that s***. But no for me it was horrible. I couldn't go a day without it or I couldn't get up id be yawning and sneezing and just felt like I was physically ill. But if you can really take your time and taper down as much as possible. Hang in there because it does get better. but it does take time sadly.

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Kris, Im guessing you have the 8mg strips? but ya I would say its enough if it helps you with pain. its probably the right amount for you to be taking it sound like though. But for getting off them which can be very hard. I would suggest you cut a strip into five pieces and try that for atleast a week or so. If you have no struggle doing that cut it into 6 pieces for the next week. Then seven and so on... I only say that because for some people it can be very hard. don't rush it if its really hard but honestly the lowest dose you can get yourself on the easier it will be to completely stop. It might sound crazy but I was eventually cutting mine until you couldn't cut it anymore before I stopped completely. But I guess over time see if you can gradually get yourself down to 1mg or less before coming off. Or if you go see your doctor ask him to lower you to the 2mg strips because they do have lower doses

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Hi Slate, I've been taking taking the subs now for just close to 2 years. I got injured at work and went to the pain clinic, epidurals, facet blocks and I'm not talking 1 or 2. They never helped me. The dr. had me on morphine, vic ex's, and soma. He got upset with me one day and told me not to come back, just like that. Well I got the ones filled that he gave me which was 3 strips a day, U bever took 3, I took 1 or 1 1/2. Now I started cutting them in 4 pieces and take 1 piece in the morning. Is that too much, not enough, I want off these so bad but I just can't do it. You seem to know what's going on. Your advice sounded really good and that you know what you're talking about. The only problem is getting the info, you can't put your e mail address of phone no on here. Do you know how to get that done? Any info you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thank you Slate.

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sprinkle every one is different but I was on it for a year or longer, and started off on very high dose such as 2 8strips a day. and throughout months I tapered down and it wasn't horrible doing that at a slow pace but after the year past by I found the biggest struggle was comming off the lowest doses such as 1mg or less. but yes the very worse was comming off totally. at the end of my tapper I was comming off just .5mg which might sound crazy to some ppl who weren't on it long but I struggled so hard just to make the jump from that to nothing. I mean prior to the year or year in a half I was on it obv. I had an opiate problem which may have made the whole thing harder just being dependent on something that makes your body physically sick for so long which was 3 years. the 3 years meaning being on the opiates for 2 years and the suboxone for 1. but if u can give me a little on your background I could probably be more help because ive had to do this twice and you don't wanna go back bc it was much worse the 2nd time! sry if this dnt help much I was just trying to make this short not knowing your situation

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Slate i would like to hear your advice but you will have to post it on here they will not let you post email addresses or any contact information on here thanks for the advice steve

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anyone who is struggling to get off of long term use of it, post a message saying you would like my help and id be glad to tell you and give good advice ive had experience a few times and it can be seriously hard. Let me know id gladly give advice. anyone else to just post saying id like your advice and I would be glad to help because its serious and you don't want to go back to where you were!

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To everyone. Each person is usually different. But for me I was on it for a long time. If you have been on it for a year to 2 years it can be just as difficult as comming off the opiate you were taking. sounds crazy and your doctor might tell you different but your doctor hasn't been through it and sometimes doctors just want the money they get to prescribe it. My best advice for long term sub users is you need to honestly wing yourself down to the lowest possible dose you can. this sounds crazy but I started at 2 8mg strips at the beginning and to comfortably come off after being on it for so long I truly had to wing myself down to a dose as small as a half of 1mg (.5mg). and honestly the worst part will be putting a complete stop obv. because you will have none of it in your system anymore and that is what your brain and body has been used to for so long. But if you struggle with this its no joke you need to slowly but not to slow wing yourself down all the way to atleast 1mg or less to make it to where your not going to suffer horribly. It is a long road but if its what you need to stay clean then stay on it and wing down to the lowest dose possible as fast and as comfortably as you can. most doctors will not tell you that withdrawls are bad but they really can be. If you can successfully wing yourself down like I said you shouldn't suffer as bad once you put a complete stop to it. Hope this can help someone who doesn't have knowledge of it. but all I kno is my doctor was a liar about the withdrawls to me and made me pretty mad. but there rly another side. Good luck! This s*** is serious

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With long term use like that it can be very painful and hard but don't let that scare you. But I have experice with it and I can tell you u want to wing down as much as possible and it will make it much easier honeslty. it sounds crazy but if you can you want to wing it down to at least a half a mg to make it easy on yourself. I can give you some serious advice that would really help you if u want it. it will be tough being on it for that long to just put a complete stop at 2mg! Let me know im willing to help bc I struggled horribly but there is another side and its great!

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Hi, I am weaning off of subs now and wanting to know what I am in for once I stop? I have been on it for 1 1/2 years and down to 2mg a day starting just the other day and besides some sweats and a little leg aches, nothing so far as I am tapering. Can anyone tell me what to expect or what I can do to minimize the the withdrawals? I am a stay at home mom with 3 kids and very nervous about what will happen once I completely stop? Thanks to anyone who can help.

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Im on 2 8mg strips per day i first start by going down to 1.5 per day for 2 weeks then down to 1 when you get down to 8mgs per day you may want to stay on them for 3 weeks or more you have to go slow thats the key due to the fact of the long half life wean down atleast to .5mgs before skipping days do that for a few weeks until you can skip 2 days then 3 and so on till you feel comfortable to stop all together if at any time you feel like you need extra time on a dose take longer its a long process but it works also take vitamins and exercise i know that sounds like alot but it helds the healing process if you need more help just let me know i start the weaning process tomorrow it anyone want to start with me your more that welcome and ill post my progress. Thanks sprinkle

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The doctor that I like in Southern California is Dr. Tanagho and she's in Huntington Beach. Let me know if you are going to see her so I can contact her and ask her to give you EXTRA SPECIAL CARE. She can give suboxone and will help you get off of it slowly.
Tina, I don't have any problem with your share and I don't think you are a complainer. I get why you expressed what you did and it's information that's helpful for some people.

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Please send me your way of coming off of suboxone. Thanks

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I just reread your statement and am not complaining, I am mad yes!, but I am informing and looking for information that I have not found as of yet. I am a senior and a very hard working woman that raised 8 boys alone in New York. I do not complain I just don't have the nonproductive time to do that. (I'm busy) I need more info. I cannot get accomplished what I'm looking to do. I also do not want to let anyone else get into my position fore I. A mother and always feel protective to others out of sheer habit and concern. Take this drug ONLY if nessary and ONLY for a short amount of time. It is very useful for getting off and avoiding withdrawals, although I have not had then , I have heard from many. But what I do know is this is a drug that has a terrible half life and that makes it very dangerous that most drug users are not aware of or every understand what that means ! By then it's too late. They are in it and the doctors will keep u there due to lack of knowledge and greed !!! So please please hear me and beware and act responsibility !!! Thank you for your presious time and effort. Tina

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I am in California too. I would be ever so grateful. Palm Springs to be more exact. I don't want to give much information on this site. Again I'm looking for a good doctor to give me the kind of help I need. Watch my health and get me off without hurting my COPD or my heart, as well as not to go through as much dramatic withdrawals , I need to continue to work at my business so I don't loose it my house car all. You understand ! This is a big undertaking for me as well as any doctor that would help me I'm sure. But if it can be done I'm more than game to give it a big try ! Thank you so much!

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Lorenzo can you tell me exactly how you tapered off the suboxone. I really want to. and I want to try exactly how you did it so I can beat it. Thanks

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Everyone i an 100% true addict i would take any and everything i could but not illegal drugs my drug of choice was norco 10-325 anywhere from 30 plus 1000mg a day it was to the point i did it to not be sick and be in withdrawal if i missed them for a few hours i would start feeling bad i would still be on them if it was not fir suboxone it was to the point that my heart had stopped twice so i truly believe in suboxone my doctor is nothing like the ones ive read about on here he truly cares and monitor's my recovery very close he has even made me take addiction classes so ive learned a extremely amount about this and im really blessed to have learned what i know first i want to say if you think yoyr doctor is keeping you on these its your responsibility to talk to him and if he doesn't help then i would suggest try weaning yourself down on your own its not a crime to try and get off these in earlier post i have posted a great plan for getting off of them and it works i learned of this on here from others that have successfully done it and ive done it myself it is my fault i relapsed i was not as educated as i am now and i failed im getting ready to try again im not saying i will stay off due to the fact im human but at least i know its possible to get off them. If anyone needs i will repost the way off i will tell you its not easy i still had withdrawal symptoms but they were very mild try it the only thing that can happen is you fail so what its better to try and fail than keep on being in this situation i pray for everyone on here that you succeed and if there is anything i can answer just ask if i dont know ill ask when i go to class and find out its our own responsibility to take care of ourselves don't just trust what a dr says ask questions do research get a second opinion suboxone saved me now its time for me to finish by getting off them and being 100% clean and staying that way im much better than i was its a slow process now its time to wean off the suboxone thanks and God bless

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Dgr I think you probably just misread what I posted. I said that all the litigation talk is taking away from the forum. It's not really helpful for people needing support or knowledge. I was asking if I should stay away from both, and just try to stop taking by tapering. I have an extremely difficult time making it past a few days though. The longest I've made it is four, and it was difficult. Thanks for any insight.

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I have been on suboxone for 4 years after a vicious cycle of popping every pill possible. I've never relapsed. My doctor started me with high milligrams and has now lowered it. I'm supposed to take a 2 mg tablet once in morning, once at night. I began my own ween down process where I'm taking a half of one of the pills a day when I wake up. I must take it and then lay down again for an hour until it really kicks in, then I'll wake up and feel better. Since lowering myself, and even before lowering myself, I would sweat profusely...so much that I'd be changing t shirts 3 times a day. I could be in a 60 degree air conditioned room and my forehead is dripping. The only thing I have to counter the famous cold sweats, which are terrible, is xanax. When I begin to feel that horrid sweating and cold sweats, I take a xanax and just sit and relax for a good half hour, it usually stops the sweats.
Sleeping can be a nightmare. Sometimes I get those cold sweats and just cannot sleep, I feel like I'm burning up, my wife says she can't sleep on my chest because it's so hot. I'm so lost. I know I have blood pressure issues, very high, but I'm on lisinopril for it. I wonder if the sweating could be from that...or is it the suboxone, or a mix? Basically it's those cold sweats that are ruining my life literally. I'm begging someone to please maybe help me out on this. It's like if I don't reach for that other half of SUBOXONE in the middle of the night, I will not sleep, period.
Mornings are horrible, until my Meds kick in, I don't want to see or talk to anyone for at LEAST an hour. I'm trapped in this nightmare. Between the sweating, and everything else, Lord help me. It's not regular sweating, some people don't understand ...it's this, hot the cold, cold then hot, uncomfortable feeling, it even caused me to miss my nephews birthday and my NEICES sweet 16. Help.

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