How Long After You Stop Suboxone Do You Have Withdrawal Symptoms? (Page 56)
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My 63y/o mother survived chemo and radiation for throat cancer but was unable to stop the morphine 15mg twice a day without horrible withdrawal symptoms. Her MD put her on Suboxone 8mg/2mg once a day in June. She even took half the strip on most days and the doctor was very pleased and anticipated that she would be able to stop altogether in November. She unfortunately had a stroke 14 days ago and has been in the hospital. The first 7 days she was confused from the stroke but now she is weak and forgetful but is no longer disoriented. She told me tonight that she thought she needed her Suboxone. She said she thought she was going thru withdrawal. I was floored. She is not having any outward signs of withdrawal: no back/stomach pain, no nausea/vomiting, no sweating or tremors. Isn't 14 days long enough for the Suboxone to be completely out of your system and for withdrawal symptoms to have come and gone??? Any answers will be greatly appreciated.

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I have been on suboxone for almost 2 weeks now. It started at 16mg a day and very quickly I took my self down to 8 mg then to 4mg and now 2 mg a day. If I keep tapering down like this will I avoid the withdrawals since I have not yet reached my 2 week mark yet?? I don't want to be addicted to subs at all. I just want to be fre from it all!!

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November 14th 2013 was the last day I took suboxone. Its so fantastic to sleep 8 hours a night now..but those first 35-40 days, I never slept more than 1 or 2 hours at a time..the insomnia and restless leg were the worst. I did get a fast grip on my depression by using the amino tryptophan. Anyways, I am 75 days clean of everything.. I never thought the PAWs were going to end..they just seemed to last forever.. Hope you all can get clean, and start enjoying life the way it was meant to be

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I was on subs for 3 years maybe 4. Luckily i was sharing and only took 1 strip a day for the whole time and i tapered dwn to a half of a quarter. I did the taper in 1 month period of time.. Im on day 9 today feel lil bit better. Drs are the cause of this pain for me. this dr put me on 2 8mg strips a day to quit a norco addiction only was taken 5 a day tops and dr gives me same dose he gives a 10 year H addict! That's the problem! Paws does suck but I'm slowly feeling better accept sleep is blah but better every day and no energy. Plus its freezing cold where I'm at.. I wish i could go run outside but its 2degrees outside! This does suck bad but i truly believe i WILL feel normal and get back to my loving life ways.. Its impossible to love life when u depend on a orange strip! Subs are the worst but if i can do it so can anyone! Fyi i do have tiny cravings sometimes but its day 9 i would have to be a complete loser to relapse that's not happening! I do feel like a carona though.. Also my sub dr gave me .50mg trazodone for sleep i got script on day 6 its def helping! Good luck fellow users get and STAY clean for urself and others around u..

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Not sure whom you are speaking to. But praying to God, especially if you are a believer, certainly does wonders. If you are not a believer and are praying to God,then you are wasting your time. For me, I chewed tobacco/skoal for 35 years. And not only did I get off of Suboxone after 8 years, at the same time I asked God to let me stop this 35 year habit I had with chewing. And though I will admit, I went thru more than a month of hell, I came thru the fire a new person..No more nicotine, caffine, and no more suboxone. Maybe its because of my age, and I have more willpower, I dont know. Not everbody could do what I did, I get it. But without prayer, and my belief in God, I would not be sitting her typing this right now. Just how I believe and feel.

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Please. If you're an addict, praying to a higher power isn't enough. Did u read an na book and write some stuff as a way to entertain yourself? U sound ridiculous.

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Eddie, you said " Is it safe to jump off at 1mg." Heck, I jumped cold turkey from 6mg per day, 8 years. To jump at 1mg, you will not even have remotely close to the PAWS I had. The first week might be a tad bit tough.... but again, nothing compared to the living nightmare I went thru. Its not the withdrawls, its the PAWs, and if you are jumping from 1mg, you should not have PAWS whatsoever, in my opinion. Yea, you will have some withdrawls that 1st week, and maybe a little longer.. but I would welcome withdrawls over PAWS any day of the week. Let me ask you, how long have you been on 1mg? If its been a year or 2, you might consider tapering down to 0.5 at least. Everybodys body and brain is different. that you must remember.

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I was the same way. I was on 2-8mg once a day for about 2 years . I had terrible neck inflimation due to bone spurs and disc in my neck once I stoped its like all the swellen went away.

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3 or 4 years of opiate abuse turned into 6 years of methadone (180 ml per day) and the last 5 years on Suboxome. Started at 24 mg a day. Down to 2mg and today am going to try 1mg. I went cold turkey from methadone to Sub and almost died. I didn't taper and my doc allowed me to jump into it. I was in hell. Now I am trying to get off Sub. Is it safe to jump off at 1mg. Here in canada we don't get the strips. I am cutting a 2mg pill in half. I also don't have a lot of support to get through the hard days. Please help.

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The majority of the severe withdraws will be over maybe ever so slightly feeling bad but 2 weeks off of them it would be a mistake to start taking them again it would just reset her withdrawals!

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I honestly would take the withdrawls from oxy codone any day of the week over suboxone withdrawls/PAWS. The good thing is, if I am reading correct, you have not been on Suboxone that long, which is a great thing. It took me about 40 or so days, 36 to be exact, to get over 95% of the PAWS. And I was on 6mg per day for 8 years. And just remember, its not the dosage, its the amount of years/time you are on it. And you are tapering, so it should not be bad at all. I did it cold turkey, biggest mistake I ever made in my life, but did not have a choice. 72 days clean today, the only thing I take are multivitamins. And strangely, Ive not had any relapse, or any craving to go back to pain killers, and especially not suboxone. That drug is 10x more potent than morphine, and more dangerous. Sure, it got me off pain killers, but what good is it, if its harder to get off suboxone, than it is pain killers, and its worse? No thanks, I get high on life now...and Im feeling so darn good.. Hope you can one day soon feel as good as I do.

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Today is day six without any and I would have to feel better to die! After taking hydrocodone and oxicodone for a few years I went to my Dr and told him I wanted off! He put me on 16mg of suboxone a day. I only took them a few months and every time I would get my script filled I would decrease my dosage on my own. I was down to 8mg a day when my insurance decided they wouldn't help with the cost anymore and I refused to pay more for suboxone than what I could buy opiates on the street for. If I had known that withdrawals from this drug was going to be as bad as the withdrawals from the codone and last longer I would have never taken it. I have read where it has took people over ninety days to feel better!! I can not imagine feeling like this another two and a half months

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Amen to that. I just fear that some people do not feel strong enough to quit or taper down on their own. Im fairly strong willed, and it wilted me like a baby during those first 32-35 days.....thats what happens when you take suboxone for 8 years non stop and dont taper down.

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This is my experience as well! 6 yrs on about 150 ml. per day of percs & tabs & now on year 3 of subs. My doc put me on 24 ml. per day strips & on year 3 i'm just now suppose to be taking 20 ml. per day! I had to start downing my dosage on my own about a year ago, i'm was starting to think the doc was trying to keep me on a lifetime plan! For the last 6 months I have been taking roughly 4 ml. every other day & as long as I have them in my pocket (subs) I can handle doing this. Its when I run out that I start feeling terrible. (I support mine & my wife's sub dosage because i could not afford to keep us both going to the doc) This is a drug like any other that one will have to stop on their own! I'm on day 3 of taking nothing now & it is TERRIBLE but I'm going to keep on till its over (I hope) Don't let your Dr's run your life people, most have never felt withdrawal & would love to keep excepting your free money! sooner or later everyone has to just say stop on their own!

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I know that Subtex does not have Naloxone in it, which is a great thing for you. The 2nd great thing for you is that you have only been on Subtex for 5 days. Those 2 things alone are a beautiful thing for you. Yes you will have withdrawls for a few days, but you will never experience PAWS. And you NEVER want to experience PAWS, trust me. It was the worst 32 days of my life and I would rather die than ever go thru that again. You should feel very very lucky, should you decide to stop cold turkey.

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Amy, I,m no doctor but if you been abusing pain pills for a long time I would think if you just stop the subs after 6 days you will feel some wds. Like I said, I,m not a dr. I think it has to do with how much and how long you were abusing the pain meds. You may not feel anything for a few days because subs have such a long half life. After that the wds may kick in. I,ve allways found it best to taper off subs slowly.

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I have been taking 4-6mg of subutex for 5 days now after an attempt to get off pain pills. Will I have withdrawals from the subutex if I stop taking the subutex tomorrow.

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WOW, and I thought I had it bad. You are the first person I have ever seen on the internet that was on suboxone longer than me. I really do not know what to say. Other than I will be praying for you. Im gonna hit day 40 of being totally clean on Christmas. It took 32-33 days before I felt like myself. I have the amino acids to thank, as well as the Valerian Root, I think :) And i can finally sleep. I hope that someday soon you too can be clean, and free of this stuff. One thing, I still have 2 ruptured disks in my lower back, and a 90% torn rotator cuff, yet, I feel 0 pain, and Im not on any meds. Its like when I quit the suboxone, and all the other crap, all the pain went away... Only by the grace of God!!!

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I've been on suboxone 8mg per day for 7 years, after 10 years of methadone for H addiction. I recently got diagnosed with throat cancer and just finished 3 weeks of radiotherapy [after 3 months of chemo]. My cancer docs have no idea about suboxone and subscribe me oxynorm for the pain in my throat. My GP doubled my dose to 16mg of suboxone to counter the pain instead of using the oxynorms. That did absolutely nothing to relieve the pain, so i stopped using the suboxone and now have about 40-50 mg of oxynorm per day which is working fine. I also have 1000ml of methadone in reserve. My plan is to use the oxynorm until my throat is better, switch to methadone for a week or two[decreasing doses] and stop using any form of substitute before i get addicted again. That's the plan anyway. If it fails I'll be no better than before and go back on suboxone with a lesser dose.

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Day 35, and finally, 2 days ago, I finally started feeling 100% normal again. I can sleep now without anything. No more cold sweaty hands. No need to take 3-5 hot showers a day. No more restless leg. Im guessing the 3 amino acids are what did it for me. The L-Tryptophan, L-Tyrosine, and L-methionine. But I read that those would do no good, if you do not have the proper balance of Endorphines. So I found a way to naturally create, and bring back the Endorphines that were ruined or damaged from 8 years of suboxone usage. Certain aroma's such as vanilla extract and Lavender will help to create and bring back proper endorphine levels. That way those neurotransmitters you are rebuilding with the amino acids will have the correct balance of endorphines. Anyways, sorry to get so technical. And I am not sure if PAWS will return on me or not. Im told I could have good days, even good weeks, and then the PAWS will return. Remember I was on suboxone for 8 straight years. Im kind of shocked that Im already feeling perfectly normal again this soon.

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You can try Benadryl to help you sleep but it's not the best thing...maybe over the counter sleep meds to help you relax more..

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