How Long After Taking A Suboxone Can You Take An Opiate? (Page 4)
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I have been on 8 mg/2mg Suboxone strips for 1 year. I am having a tooth (back molar) extraction in the morning. I used my Suboxone strip this morning & the tooth extraction is at 9:30 am tomorrow. If I don't use another Suboxone strip before the extraction, would I be able to take Hydrocodone after my surgery? I don't want to get sick, but I am terrified of going through this surgery with no pain meds. Please help.

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MIKEY: Are you saying that the last time you took Suboxone was Tuesday? Again, taking Suboxone BEFORE taking an opioid won't give you withdrawals. It is when you take Suboxone too soon AFTER taking the full-agonist opioids that gets you into trouble. Taking the Suboxone BEFORE taking full-agonist opioids basically makes that opioid ineffective. You won't get much effect from it, if any. That's what it is SUPPOSED to do. But either way, you should be fine if Tuesday was the last time you took Bupe, especially since it sounds like you took a pretty small amount.

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So i only took a quarter of each time i take a suboxone ive not took any since Tuesday 6:30 will i be fine

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KELLI: You can take the Percocet AFTER taking Bupe with no danger of precipitated withdrawal, but whether or not the Percocet will be effective is unknown. It depends on the amount of Perc, the amount of Bupe, the timing of it all... It might, it might not. I'm not your doctor and I'm not going to tell you what to do, but the Bupe will make opioids pretty ineffective. If I were you, I would ask the doctor about stopping the Bupe while taking the Percocet. You aren't going to get much relief from Percocet while taking Bupe. And since the Percocet is a full-agonist opioid, it will keep you from going into withdrawal. But whatever you do, DO NOT take any Bupe too soon AFTER taking the Percocet. You do NOT need precipitated withdrawals on top of this surgery.

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Excuse me, I am in the same predicament as you. I've been on suboxone for a year and a half.. I had to get stitches today. I took half of an 8mg suboxone, so 4mg at about 7am and it's now 3:15pm. I am not looking to feel high, but I'm in serious pain. Will the Percocet help or not?

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ALLEYC: As TC said, the meds you are taking are called Benzodiazapines, and you are going to be in Benzo withdrawal. This is no joke; if you are on a high enough dose, you may need to be hospitalized for withdrawals. If it gets really bad, I would go to the ER. NO ONE should go through ANY withdrawals without medical assistance, but alcohol, barbiturates and benzos are EXTREMELY dangerous withdrawals and should not be done alone.

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TC: No, I am not an MD. I was pre-med at Berkeley, and went into medical research instead. I work with the leading addiction specialist in my state. He was actually the Addiction Specialist for an NBA basketball team for a while, and speaks in front of the State Legislature regarding addiction medicine, as well as other medical issues. I also am a 30 year+ opioid addict, have been on both Methadone and Subutex/Suboxone. So I have been on BOTH sides of it. And when I see people CONSTANTLY posting bad information on here, I just can't help but to reply. All these "experts", putting substances in their bodies, that have NO CLUE what they are doing. And then coming on here and "advising" others with their bad info? Sorry.....NO.

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SWEETIE720: Sorry, I didn't see this sooner. If you take Suboxone/Subutex too soon after taking full agonist opioids (Vicodin, Percocet, morphine, etc) you can go into what is called Precipitated Withdrawals. Suboxone/Subutex (generic name Buprenorphine) is a partial agonist opioid, which means it will "block" any and all other opioids from attaching to the receptors. Which as an opioid addict, you DON'T want. So taking more Percocets at that time probably wouldn't help much. Hopefully you only took a small amount of the Suboxone, and it would be out of your system by now. Remember, if you take opioids, and then take Subs too soon afterwards, you will get pretty sick.

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kkh Just wondering. Are you a doctor ? You seem to be on here a lot and have a lot of information.

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Yes you are simply feeling the affects of not having any Benzo's on your system. You can have withdrawal from those also. Is a matter of fact . Very unpleasant . Good Luck

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One day ago in the morning I took a piece of a suboxone. I feel like s*** with chills, runny nose, hot / cold, back & fourth to the bathroom. Can I take a percocet?

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ALLEYC: Yes, Clonazepam and Lorazepam are Benzodiazepines, and therefore not affected by Suboxone. As far as you saying you are "running out and getting withdrawal"...could you be more specific? Are you saying that you are running out of the Benzos? There would definitely be a withdrawal from that.

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ive been on suboxone for 7 years now and feel no high ,,only the first few weeks and that was it ,,but when i tried taking percs i felt sick and never took them again,,,but taking lorazapam i do feel it or clonazapam 2.0mg i feel the high ,,,now im running out and getting withdrawl from that dont no how this is possible but i realized that there not opiates,,,suboxone doesnt work for that,,,

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BEEBOP: Yep. Full agonist painkillers have to have an opioid receptor to "fit into" in order to do their job. And since the Subs completely fill in your opioid receptors, there is nowhere for the painkillers to go. So it is indeed a waste to try taking painkillers AFTER taking Subs. And it can also be dangerous if you take too much, trying to "override" the Subs. Just a bad idea altogether. I have to wonder about all these people trying their damndest to feel high while taking Subs. "How soon after taking Subs will I feel Oxys?" etc. Why are they even ON Subs, if they are still trying to use? What a waste of time, money and resources. Take one or the other....taking both is ridiculous, and can be downright DANGEROUS. Plus, you do NOT want to go through Precipitated Withdrawals.

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If u are on subs then u can't take pain meds with the subs the pain meds will be useless ..I had surgery after being on subs for two years and when the surgery was schedualed my doctor took my off subs prescribe me morphine sulfate so I wouldn't get in withdrawal and then I could start my pain meds about five days after being on morphine sulfate u have to get the subs out of your system before starting a pain regiment I was told this by my doct otherwise it will be a waste of meds to take subs and opiats at same time

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Js: Yes, that should not be a problem. I don't know how much a "quarter strip" is, since I only did tablet Bupe, but you should be fine. Not sure why you would WANT to take Bupe and Percocet together, but that's your business.

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I took a quarter strip of suboxine at 11pm. Can I take some perk 10s at 11am and feel them

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I was hurt 13 years ago. I've been doing opiates and subs on and off for 13 years. I know what you are saying. I'm not doubting that. If I wait 5 hours I'm good personally. It works for me. I don't care what or who or why. All I am stating is that for the last time. It works for me. Not everyone else I understand that.

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TONY: Oh you are right about the clueless doctors. It blows my mind, at least going by what people post on here, how many doctors are actually prescribing full-agonist opioids along with an opioid antagonist. Totally counter-productive. In order for doctors to even be able to prescribe Bupe, they have to take a special course and get certification. Apparently many of these doctors were asleep in class. Good luck to you.

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Um. Ok. If you say so. I understand how it works. Thank you very much for your input. And I've met doctors that should have read information on the internet, because they were compete *****s.

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no the withdraws only work the other way if you take a sub to soon after taking a opiate

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