How Do You Take Subutex? Swallow Or Put Under Tongue To Dissolve? (Page 6)
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I have a friend who takes suboxone & recently got a subutex given to him. I take suboxone myself but ive never heard of subutex until couple days ago. I would like to know how is subutex supposed to be taken? Under your tongue or do u swallow it? I am worried about my friend & i have searched every site possible on information on subutex but none of these sites say how it is suppose to be taken. what are the side effects of subutex? why do doctors give pregnant women subutex & not suboxone during pregnancy? i need to know any & all information on subutex. i have hidden the pill from my friend until i can try 2 find some information on it & he has been sick but i dont want anything bad to happen to him.also is subutex a small white round pill with number 8 on one side & an arrow on the other & does it come in any other forms or colors etc.? I'm desperate for answers!!!!!

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this is bulls***. Ive had prescriptions for both subutex and suboxone and ive shot both many times, recently stopped due to vein issues, but neither will put you in withdrawal when shoot unless you have a full agonist in your system still. buprenorphine has a waaaay higher binding affinity than naloxone. so the naloxone is basically there so the fda has a reason to look competent. everyone i know knows bupe beats of naloxone.

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Lol did you really have to share your entire life story of which you repeated about 20 times and I only got halfway thru your non sense before I stopped reading. Stop crying like a damn school girl you went to rehab and abused vicodin of course you are going to be "red flagged" at the ER.

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You wrote a book bro...lol your right on too.

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Just read the rest of the posts. Man there are a lot of people out there that are uneducated about this subject despite being on the drug. First, you cannot die from opiate or bup withdrawal. You might feel like your going to but you can't. Second, subutex is not stronger than suboxone. 8 milligrams of bup., the active ingredient in both, are of the same intensity and amount. The only diff. Is the naloxone is in suboxone and not in subutex. Third, even though this has jack s***! To do with subs, you would have to be an idiot to think there was some kind of conspiracy on 9/11. So the government or whoever you say decided to shoot a cruise missile at the pentagon the same day it is proven beyond dispute that two planes hit the towers and one went down in Pennsylvania. Yeah that makes sense. Finally, about the naloxone. When you take suboxone sublinguilly, which for the addicts on here means under the tongue, you hardly get any of the naloxone anyway so it doesn't really matter if its bad for you or not. The naloxone is not processed very well this way so most of the drug is of no consequence. The only reason naloxone was added was the same reason the strips came out. They changed the form of the drug so they could hold their patent on it longer to prevent generics for a bit longer to make a bit more cash. The naloxone does not make you sick if you take other opiates afterwards because the other opiates can't be processed properly because of the bup. Blocking your opiate receptors. However if you take the opiates with no bup in your system and then take the bup you can get deathly sick. Naloxone is designed to make you sick in conjunction with your opiate receptors full of a agonist. Bup is a antagonist and binds to the opiate receptors much more than an agonist. If your receptors are filled with bup then the naloxone cannot make you sick because the traditional opiates, which are agonists, cannot bind to the receptors. The only thing will happen is you will waste your time and money. The only exception that i know of is methadone because it is such a.strong agonist that it can compete somewhat with the antagonist bup. To bind to your opiate rectors, also known as dopamine receptors. And this will cause the naloxone, what little makes it to your brain, to make you sick. Just a little info for everyone.

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Just to let everyone know that suboxone can be injected. I haven't done it myself but I know at least 5 people who take it this way and they get high and no sickness. The naloxone only blocks opiates. Does not make you sick when injected, or at least it didn't with any of the people that I know.

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Everyone that I know who takes subutex takes them because they can abuse them. And I personally have before too and you do feel high from them. No, it doesn't last as long as dissolving it under your tongue but it does have the same affect.

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SUBUTEX IS NOT A BLOCKER IT IS BUPRENORPHINE. SUBOXONE HAS A BLOCKER IN IT. IT IS MADE UP OF TWO ACTIVE INGREDIENTS BUPRENORPHINE AND NALOXONE (NALOXONE IS THE BLOCKER). Subutex does not have the naloxone added, this incgredient will block u from getting high from anything while on it. The point is to give it addicts to keep them from using and also keeps you from withdrawing. Subutex does not have a blocker so u will feel the affects of a medication that gets u high. Also with suboxone where it has the bkocker u with be thrown into hyper withdrawl. They say that its the wotse feeling of withdrwl u will experience. But people whats the point of getting on suboxone and still using when there is a desperate addict out there that is told they have ! A 2 year waiting list ur taking the spot of someone that want nothing more in this world than to b clean. And people are using auboxone as a free high or a middl man in case u can't get the fix of the day and ruining the system fornpeoplle that want a life a ckean life. Conscience people.

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Amen, Hockey Mom 2004. That is ridiculous he calls others ignorant. Especially, like you said, when he can't spell s*** or punctuate or anything. I'm no grammatical expert or anything, but I'm definitely not going to call someone ignorant if I couldn't spell 3rd grade level words. The only one who seems to be ignorant is L33t with that long ass response. Although, I will admit, some points are valid and correct, but others are just pure speculation and opinion being expressed as "scientific fact". First off the thing you say about 30mg of morphine, roxy, or oxy being the equivalent to 8mg of subutex/suboxone is just ludicrous. I think it really is not able to be compared due to the fact that everyone's tolerance is different. For instance, When I first tried suboxone, I took a 16th of a pill. Was gone all day long and even half of the next day, I mean higher than a roxy/oxy/morphine combined. Now when I take 8mg of suboxone I don't hardly even get any relief, but taking 8mg of suboxone is way too much anyways. I can take a 16th of Subutex on the other hand, and snort it, and feel great the entire day .. 12 hours. And yes despite what L33t says, I definitely recommend subutex ... f*** suboxone, do not snort, I mean you can, but from experience I wouldn't. If you or your friend has never taken subutex but take suboxone, i would start out with a very small amount, like an 8th of a pill or less (break it in half, break that half in half [left with quarters] and break that half in half and you will have an 8th, you can even break that or cut that 8th in half and have 16ths) and use that, give it about 15 20 minutes and you should be good to go. Also from my experience after snorting subutex for a few days then moving back to suboxone, if you are like me, the suboxone will no longer work like it did before. So if you can not readily get subutex or a script then it *could* be risky. Also, ** L33t ** says he does not get any type of buzz/high off his subutex/suboxone, but seemed to feel pretty great to type out that 9 1/2 page response, so I don't believe that for one second either. Get real with yourself.. Yes my response is long, but I'm not going to lie and say that I just didn't snort some subutex before typing this and that I do not feel great. Thank you very much for your time folks, I hope this response helps anyone looking for HONEST advice. Won't be the best advice for someone trying to get clean, but then again someone trying to get clean, shouldn't be taking subutex/suboxone, because that's not being clean.


PS: Again, ***L33t ***, saying that someone could die from opiate withdrawal is a little inaccurate, and the fact that you have the audacity to call others ignorant when you act like you are the most knowledgeable pill popper on the forum (haha) .. You can't die from an opiate withdrawal, you could die from a heart attack that was onset by opiate withdrawals but not from the withdrawal itself. So keep saying you're clean when you're still getting high ... That's as ignorant as it comes.

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if a person has been on subs for years,,I mean over 2yrs...at whatever dose, sniffing 2mgs isnt going to make on differnce whatsoever..more than likely its just gona drain into your throat and nothing will happen at all. to get the best bang for your buck and most out of your MEDS, brush your teeth, rinse with antiseptic mouth wash (Listerine) and hold it tightly under ur tounge for as long as possible without swallowing.. its easier to break pill in half and put one on each side of under ur togue..All that will asborb into the blood system and DONT eat or drink anything for about 30mins after you dose..I like to do it while im in bed, before i get up for the day, brush lay down then i can have my dose under for over an hour and i feel it all day long thats for somone who been on 12mgs of Subs for 8yrs.. Dont sniff, its not worth it, really..

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Ok no I have been off opiates for 6 months now iam so much happier life is so much smoother a couple of months back I could not see my self drug free but I do admit it was rocky at first I am human an my Dr understood I had a problem with opiates so I could not hide that I was using I have to pee every time I go in now I don't use at all an I am proud of my self an my family is to I had friends die an family die from overdoses an I did not won't to be the next in line I am the daughter of a famous t.v actor an I did not won't to hurt my father by dieing from drugs it would not have been good so subtex is good for this kind of problem it is a blessing I cont believe how it works an it changes your life dramatically

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not all is mind over matter. some people actually have had horrible things happen to them and have to have something to ease there day.herniated disks were like a pinch on the arm compared to my problems. i wont go in to it beacuse it would take forever to explain but I promise you its not all mind over matter. plenty of people do over do it though. that's for sure. I'm glad your strong enough to go through what you are going through.

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every one gets a big tolerance when doing opiates. vikes and all that have never done anything.take 1 or 100 that day. nothing! methadone worked well for awhile but even then i was at 450mg a day and could have kept going with ease. your lucky you were that low on those few meds you were on. now I have a pain pump. be grateful that's all you had to do for those few years. remember people have it twenty times worse like me. glad your doing better though.

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Rock on got to love what u said cuz it is so true lol

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Thank u for ur service to this country.I was checkn this site out because Ive been taking subtex almost a year now,& I've been considering quitting.So I'm googling around the topics on the net.You, I'm sure, hav amazing control as to mind over matter & I respect that ability as well as ur sacrifice 4those of us that couldn't or sadly those that careless and wouldn't stand & fight 4our freedom & safety.I didn't really understand the context or content of the posts between u & the "conspiracy guy" sorry this chick is late 2the table it seems.But once I read ur post I just felt (& im sorry 2 every1 for this off topic post) the need 2tell u that I appreciate u.I appreciate ur service.I truly appreciate ur sacrifice 4me.& Im glad that even thru the the receipt of multiple,varied & severe wounds,still dealt with 2day,& possibly the rest of ur days,that u hav been blessed w/the ability to maintain & positively affect ur physical pain.I unfortunately don't share the ability tho I truly wish I did,but I will continue searching for a way 2manage my pain,control the tendency toward addiction & hopefully still find my way off the subutex.I do admit I find the prospect of not taking it anymore disconcerting,& I've only just started the consideration.I hope I havnt offended ne1 going so far off topic I hav yet 2finish exploring this thread of posts but as I said I just felt the need 2stop here & express my gratitude 2this man 4 his sacrifice & deeds done n service 2us all.

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its lemon lime flavored not orange

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He's sick? What kind of friend are you give him the medicine and yes that is subutex. It's fine and you let it dissolve under the tongue and I was on suboxone while pregnant he's one now and healthy as an ox. If he is sick you need to give him the medicine...pooor guy...

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Actually Subutex should not be prescribed to women that are pregnant. How do I know? I had to do a pregnancy test in a treatment center to see if I was able to take subutex the doctor told me that if it was positive i would not be prescribed subutex or suboxone. There is a small difference between the two; Subutex is a stronger concentrate of buprenorphine than suboxone.

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subutex is a blocker! I did a 8mg sub at about 9 in the morning(Let dissolve under tongue)for about 25 to 30 mins...............At about 10pm the same night I did 100mg of morphine(snorted)and didnt even feel it! I went 3 days without subs and did another 100mg morphine....you better believe I felt those 100mg because I know longer had subs in my system,If you don't believe me try it! you won't get high if you take opiates with subs and thats a fact!

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i dont like to tell people how to mis use subutex but i would rather you know how to do it properly than not at all, anyway im guessing its a tiny pill and yes its subutex and its the same as suboxone but does not contain blocker like suboxone anyway i prefer to snort them and you only need one miligram of that eight miligram tablet and if you have a tolerance then you will be ok with 2 miligram anyway split it into 4 pieces and crush one of them and snort it or you can put under your tongue and let it slowly dissolve and remember that the effects are very strong when snorted and weaker when dissolved and it will only take 30 minutes for it to start working unless you put under your tongue then it could take over an hour remember i dont think you should abuse anything but i guess you are going to do it regardless so i would rather you be safe and take care xx

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im sorry but your wife was part of the plan. Everyone who was on those "planes" are now deep underground being tortured or dead. this is the reality of the world we live in. The illuminati control everything. Cruise missiles DID hit the pentagon. look at the proof.

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