How Can I Get Prescribed Subutex Instead Of Suboxone (Page 6)
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i get sick everytime i take my dose of suboxone. I throw up everytime. but my doctor will not switch me to the subutex even though it is in my charts that i have yaken the subutex and never got nausiated. what do i need to say or do to get my doctor to understand and switch me? i also have severe intestinal problems that get aggravated with the suboxone, what can i do. i do not want to quit treatment but i cant keep throwing up everyday all day. please someone help me.

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Buprenorphine IS an opiate. Naloxone (in Suboxone) is the ONLY additive that blocks opiate absorption. If you mix another OPIATE with the OPIATE of pure Subutex, you can indeed increase it! Ask your pharmacist.

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I agree 100%! I know I will be soo lucky if I get prescribed subutex. I know all the BS they're going to give me about not wanting to try suboxone but it makes sick the same way. I don't have any desire to feel high or whatever and they're going to make it impossible for me to get off methadone. They just wont do it even tho it will greatly benefit my life and my family! They don't care bc to them Everybody's a drug addict! They can do pill counts/drug panels on me too....doesn't bother me. That's why I'm desperate to find a Dr in my area that will listen to me and let me prove to them I can take subutex responsibly! Is that not what it's intended for- to help people switch over from methadone or get people clean?! I'm far beyond my years of giving a care about feeling "good", nvr really was that an issue for me to begin with! Its so aggravating...

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rehab is the way to go.. in 10 days your clean and free of all drugs..

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DOES ANYONE KNOW OD A DOCTOR THAT WILL PRESCRIBE SUBUTEX/ NOT SUBOXONE IN INDIANA?? I LIVE IN SOUTHEASTERN INDIANA ALREADY TRAVEL TO INDIANAPOLIS(CENTRAL IN). BUT ANYWHERE IN INDIANA OR NEAR SOUTHEASTERN IN (GREENSBURG, IN) WOULD BE SOO HELPFUL! THANK YOU

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Subutex pill that's plain buprenorphine is better then them crappy suboxone films! I took the subutex before being on the suboxone program. Which the suboxone does stop withdrawal but for me the naloxone in it makes me sick. Vomiting headaches, nausea, some vomiting, bad belly pain, restlessness, itching alot, down mood etc and the doctor knows it's the naloxone making me sick but they only prescribe subutex to pregnant women! I never did misuse drugs. Only popped pain pills. Idk why the doctor won't at least give me a try at subutex and do drug panels and pill counts and check for needle marks. Any doctor that prescribes suboxone should be able to prescribe subutex! The naloxone in suboxone don't stop ppl from abusing the drug. The makers of suboxone just want doctors and such believe that so they can keep making money from they're suboxone meds and company. I took 8mg subutex under my tongue in the past and never had not 1 side effect.

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And guess what suboxone films have an abuse rate too. Naloxone is there for overdose incase of iv use. It's not the blocker. Buprenorphine does not make u high! I know ppl that misuse suboxone films. But to ppl like me that's never abused drugs should be given the chance to be on subutex for those who get sick off of naloxone.

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Constipation is caused by the Buprenorphine (which is in both Suboxone and Subutex). Like all opiates, it causes constipation (and cause nausea). The additive of Naloxane in Suboxone does NOT cause constipation. Any prescriber of Suboxone or Subutex should inform their patients to use MiraLax (a stool softener/laxative) as needed. Buprenorphine is very strong.

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Will doctors prescribe you subtext if you are prescribed stimulate for ADHD?

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I don't abuse drugs and never have. Don't even have a history of it. My only drug of choice was pain pills and I use to take them orally only! Don't get on here calling ppl junkies. Alot of ppl does get sick from the naloxone. Ppl can abuse suboxone films too! I've seen it done with my own eyes. They r ex friends now cause I don't talk or hang out with ppl that do drugs. I'm starting a new life and I'm a great person that wants to get better, not high! Subutex never and I mean never made me high. I just felt normal. It's not nice to judge. God don't like ugly. I'm busting my butt to get better and haven't taken pain pills since I've been on the suboxone program. Even tho I get headaches and sick daily I haven't touched nothing but the strips. My sub doc and my primary doctor both said the naloxone was not agreeing with me but my doc don't prescribe subutex. They can do drug panels and pills counts and check my body for needle marks and won't find any. Never touched a needle in my life. Yes some ppl wants subutex to abuse but their r ppl like me that don't want to abuse. Just wants to get better without getting sick. I'm serious about my recovery and really dedicated to it.

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That's true the subutex will block other opiates. I tried it as well and felt no effects from the oxys. Doctors needs to try subutex on ppl like me that has bad reactions to naloxone and does not have a history of drug abuse. I always take my pain pills orally. I just don't want to go back to pain pills because this suboxone makes me sick and I can't take it. Even lowering my my dose makes me sick.

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So does the suboxone films with the naloxone in it. I take my subs under my tongue and get sick as a dog with so many side effects and doctor said its the naloxone making me sick but she don't prescribe plain buprenorphine, not even for pregnant women. Naloxone is short lived by a hour from what I read and from what my doctor told me. Subutex and suboxone both r abused. But good ppl like me that wants to stay clean with no high can't get subutex if they get sick from it. I use to take the whole 8mg subutex tab under my tongue with zero side effects!

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Idk y my doc won't prescribe subutex to no one! I'm not trying to abuse nothing. Seems like doc would give me a chance being I passed all drug panels. They could even do a pill count and check my body for needle marks. I'm horrified of needles and would not want nothing in my nose! No one wants to give subutex. I want it for the right reason. Suboxone makes me vomit, nausea, headaches, itch til I get marks every where, bad stomach pain, diaherra, restlessness, trouble concentrating, burns my mouth etc.. And my doc said yes it's the naloxone making these symptoms happen but we only prescribe buprenorphine with naloxone. So I'm stuck.

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It's not for no reason. It's because he subutex has a high abuse potential.

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The naloxone in suboxone makes me sick. Been in the program 4 weeks now and my primary doctor and suboxone doctor confirms its the naloxone making me have bad sad effects but my sub doc said she don't prescribe buprenorphine without the naloxone in it. She don't do subutex even for pregnant women. Idk where else to go. Don't have a car and few places accepts Medicaid and those places I called also say they don't do subutex.

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Naloxone only stops u from administering the drug intravenously and abusing it. Buprenorphine is the blocker. I've done a lot of research and spoken to several doctors. Basically naloxone is there for no reason other than to stop iv use. Buprenorphine does it all. So there's really no purpose. Naloxone is short lived only one hour. Buprenorphine has higher affinity then naloxone. I'm on the suboxone films and the naloxone makes me sick. I don't have history of abusing any drug. My drug of choice was pain pills and I took them orally. But yea buprenorphine on its own will block. I tried it before with subutex then 4 hours later from 40mg of oxys and did not feel nothing. Google about suboxone and the naloxone in it and u will see. God bless.

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No that's not true if u tell them u get bad headaches and get sick from the suboxone. My sub doc knows the naloxone makes me sick and she said she don't prescribe buprenorphine without the naloxone in it. Even if ur pregnant she said. I have been on it 4 weeks now. All doctors don't give subutex for no reason. And my doctor is one of them.

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I'm a cop. Can I get your #. I could use some subs

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I get 30 extra subutex a month we can work something out

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I agree with you on taking methadone insteadI didn't have as many side effects on the dones And it took away all my painI got myself off methadone with no help from anyone but GodAnd lots of exercise. However four years ago I had a chill they had me on percocet d at the age of almost 40. 3 months later I had a surgery on my shoulder and I had 2 more surgeries that same year they had me on percocet. And when it was time to come off of them I honestly thought it would be easy cuz I was taking them responsibly, wrong. Right back where I ended up. He referred me to a suboxone doctor. I've been on them ever since and all they care about is money. Worst thing he could have done for me, I hate these things but hate withdrawals more. I know I can get off of methadone as I've done it before but I can't find anywhere around that has that program. Unless I want to drive 2 hours everyday to get a dose. It really does suck and I'm not taking much Suboxone as I wasn't off of them so bad. I don't remember nothing and making you feel tired and taking away my libido. I just hope I can keep decreasing and jump off of them without terrible withdrawals. I'd rather deal with my pain than be on Suboxone and that's saying a lot cause I have joint pain so bad I don't hardly sleepAlong with having a 4 year old to take care of at the age of 43.

I would rather be put back on methadone and wean myself down like before As I already know I can do it. And one other thing. All the suboxone doctors have a fit if you take any kind of benzodiazepines. I am not on them regularly, but I do suffer from anxiety from time to time and if I need to take one of my xanax I should be able to. They were never my problem drug. I can't stand them but when I have anxiety attacks they work. All these doctors don't know s*** because they've never experienced Any of it themselves. Vicious cycle.

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I don't understand why anyone wants subutexYou can't take other opiates with it eitherI know they say you can and people believe it but its simply not true I know from personal experience.. I mean you can take opiates while taking subutex but they won't work for painIt is all in their head.

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