Help Others In Getting Their Pain Medications Go To Care2petitionsite And Sign Demand That Chronic Suffers Get Medication Now (Page 4) (Top voted first)

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Here it is, your sincere effort to help us all get back our right to having our pain medications now!! sign this petition to get action and be a part in changing the DEA'a plan that is surely not working. Give us back our lives, Let the junkies overdose is they so choose to. Go to "Care2petitionsite" now sign the petition on "demand that chronic pain sufferers get their medication now, by valerie. I thank you for your support. Feel free to share it because the more signatures that we get the sooner we can make this a reality.

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Re: Liberty (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

At the rate they are going, we will see more pain patients going to the streets for relief.

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I support every chronically ill person in thriving with their appropriate medications but I don't support your ignorant stance on stating "allow junkies to continue to kill themselves as they choose". I feel that you believe because you take legal prescriptions that you are superior to an individual that for one reason or another has gone to seek out illegal or illicit drugs! WE are all addicted one way or another. Prescription meds are considered to be synthetic opiates to many. Do you realize that so many of the very people you are standing up for by circulating this petition for have already or very likely may turn to buying pills illegally because they can't get them thru a Dr. and within a matter of time will or can no longer afford the prices for pain meds will turn to illicit drugs? Do you realize 75% of so called junkies started out on prescription meds? And only turned to illicit drugs because they got cut off by their Dr? So please don't be so quick to judge because one day it could be a friend of yours that because of their chronic pain and left with no other option do the same as those you condemn! THANK God I haven't had to go this route but I NEVER say NEVER because I do know some that have and some that have died. P.S. I WILL sign the petition, Listen to us. I am a prisoner in my house due to taking my medications.

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Re: myst (# 40) Expand Referenced Message

I for one have a pain pump implanted. When I go to my pain management Dr here in Ca., he will adjust the amount that gets released. The more more that is released the faster you will need to have it refilled. Also my dr gives me a report of what meds are in the pump & how much get released each time. So you would be aware of what he is giving you, my last drs visit, I asked them to increase it & he did with no problem. Hope this helps you should you decide o get it. If you have any other questions about it, please write me. Good luck.

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Re: myst (# 35) Expand Referenced Message

I had to go through Workers Comp & if you know anything about them, their only response is DENIED, DENIED, DENIED. Had to get a lawyer involved & I got it. Don’t stop until someone actually hears you

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Re: myst (# 33) Expand Referenced Message

A simple blood test instead of a U/A would have solved that problem immediately. always ask for a blood test. Tool luck.

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I pray we get some results. Let's go for it! What would life be like in excruciating chronic pain based on what the lunatics? What if a member in Their family needed a narcotic and they stopped eating, stopped talking, not leaving the house?

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Did you just say “Let the junkies overdose if they so choose to do so?” Are you kidding me? You think an addict CHOOSES to die? Since you yourself NEEDS pain medication how does it feel to be without it? Well that’s the same feeling as your so called “junkie” and I resent this as my straight A nephew died at 22 because he had no help. A system that is broken. A first choice yes, as everyone has experimented in their lifetime, then after that they cannot get out. Shame on you.

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Re: Joel (# 58) Expand Referenced Message

Trump helping us???!!!! He couldn't care less except that it is a great political grandstanding issue that gets a lot of publicity as long as you are against the use of any opioids.

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Re: Emptybottleaddiction (# 78) Expand Referenced Message

This blog is exactly what it’s for “Pain Management” & unless you had to deal with extreme debilitating pain, you have no idea what it’s like to live like this day in & day out. I, myself do not take opioids for my pain but I have been there before. My dr implanted a pump so I get relief through that. There will come a day when something happens to you. Then you can look for a natural relief. This blog is for people who have pain & were prescribed their meds for relief & now can no longer get them. When you have that kind of pain & you have trouble just to get up & go to the bathroom then you have a right to judge. Otherwise you don’t need to be in this chat room.

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Re: TT (# 65) Expand Referenced Message

I hear you loud and clear, I'm in the same situation I am prescribed buprenorphine for addiction since 2007. I also go to my psychiatrist for this medication and others. As far as anxiety goes I found out how difficult it is to get prescribed something that would actually work other than depression medication. The most I have had is called buspirone 30mg x3 daily slightly works. I guess its better than nothing..as far as getting klonopin or axanax I have found out " don't ask" it's a was of time..still the only thing that will work. Oh don't get me wrong I still slip the question in from time to time. But its updated version says that it's ok to take if you'r doctor prescribed it..to were before it mentioned it's a big no,no, to prescribe. It seems anything that is a controlled substance it is as hard as pain medacine is to get. Even my adderall I noticed my doctor slowly puts his pen to paper...hopefully this huge mess will be solved. I'm older 58 but have my dad 73 that desperately needs his medication and I hope he does not suffer the pain that's controllable with medication. It's not fair what has happened because nothing has changed ,..there is still illegal drugs on the streets..and pain management patients are the only ones who are suffering from this issue

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Re: Mare (# 114) Expand Referenced Message

How are you in acute chronic pain and forget to take your pain meds... that doesn't make sense! Either your pain wasn't that bad or you were taking too many... Sorry, call it as I see it. Sorry if not accurate, but I don't comprehend how anyone 'forgets to take pain meds. If you forget, then you wouldn't seem to have pain...

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Exactly right. My version of 'war on drugs' is to lock up all who ABUSE drugs, give them one chance only for a boot camp rehab. If they refuse, lock them away from the rest of us, who work hard to take care of their health. Give the druggies all they want, free, of their drugs of choice. Keep them locked up and away from the rest of us. When they die, as so determined to do, they die! No 2nd, 3rd, 4th time Narcan calls. Patients with TRUE chronic pain to get through their lives won't feel and be treated like criminals. (My war on poverty has a similar, tough love approach for the able-bodied. Teach a man to fish/relocate them to areas with jobs sort of thing, and the only thing mandatory is birth control. Hunger is a huge motivator.)

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Re: Dystonia patient (# 118) Expand Referenced Message

I'm with Bella on this. You have no right to talk about others on addiction. Obviously you are not educated about this situation. Addiction can happen to anyone whether you're taking the correct amount or not..and if it ever happens to you, you will regret you said anything about it. It can be your worst nightmare, and talk about pain. Nobody asked for addiction, it's in your genes. I have been there done that and still makes me ill thinking about it. So shame on you..educate yourself, grow up.

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Re: PISSEDATSEEKERS (# 11) Expand Referenced Message

HERE IS THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC IN A NUTSHELL, GOOGLE "DEA BUSTS WALGREENS 2013, Jupiter Florida". It turns out this is the norm for most chain pharmacies, when Walgreens was busted selling opioids off the books to Doctors, it caused a chain reaction across the state, being a victim of AGENT ORANGE poisoning (which is now legal in the state of Florida on Commercial vegetable farms, and yes we have the same issues as our soldiers did, the makers DOW CHEMICAL & MONSANTO claim the additive renders it harmless to humans (bulls***) the list of damages and illnesses it has caused is way too long to list here. The poison caused such pain that i was wheelchair bound for 2 years as we tried every traditional pain medication, it turned out the chemical change the AGENT ORANGE brought to my brain chemistry included opioid resistance, nothing worked until my pain specialist tried Methadone which contains no opioids, but has the artificial ingredient that turns on the opioid receptors in the brain, designed by the NAZI'S during WWII to allow injured soldiers to continue to fight with out the affect that Morphine has on the human body, it was as if a switch was pulled and i was able to restart rehab and finally park that damned wheelchair, though the dose was huge during rehab 200mg 3 times per day(yes that is 20 -10 mg tabs 3 times daily with virtually no side affects except relief) today i am on maintenance of 50 mg x3 and use 2 canes to ambulate, the level of pain is still a solid 6 (10 is you are on fire) it has been 13 years now 9 of which on the lower dose and holding up well(if you call living in hell, well due to all the other health problems the poison brought with it besides the pain brought on from ,DJD and complete dessication of every disc in my spine) the list is way too long to list it all here, just google the issues AGENT ORANGE brought to our soldiers who fought in Vietnam, and you will see my life since 1995, making me angry for our own government making our soldiers live through this hell by believing DOW chemical & MONSANTO's claim of being harmless to humans, when to this very day the Vietnamese populations birth defect rate is something like 60%, all brought on by this hideous chemical

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Let junkies overdose? NO.

My point is that if a person cannot move without pain, their muscles turn to mush and things get worse from there. If these people have been taking codeine, for example, so they can get through the day, being able to move without severe pain, let them keep taking it, especially if they have been taking it for years and have no desire to take anything stronger.

These decisions should be left up to their doctor and the patient, not a blanket decision by the government. Everyone is different in how they react to pain, so let their doctors who know the patient's history and the patient make these decisions.

It;s when the rug is pulled out from under them by a blanket law that people attempt to get drugs over the internet or on the streets.

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I'm going to sign that petition, Valerie. I too suffer from chronic pain and have been on pain meds for years. Now, they want to stop it and it hurts all of us. I don't think they make enough money off of giving pain meds that work. They are making way for new technology that costs more. We can be their guinea pigs and put money in their pockets. I know there are doctors out there who care and their hands are tied. It's sad and scary.

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Re: ThunderHeart (# 132) Expand Referenced Message

Here we go again... calling the addicted “junkies” when these people need help. Addiction is a brain disease, not a moral failing. It is genetic, chronic, progressive and potentially deadly if left untreated. The American Medical Association labeled addiction as a disease more then 70 years ago. It should be viewed like every other chronic disease. So be careful what you say because sounds to me like you may be addicted yourself. My nephew died from this at 25. Not from a doctor but predator drug dealers on the streets, so tell me again how is this connected to a doctor? Shame on you.

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Re: ThunderHeart (# 132) Expand Referenced Message

Big Pharma has changed the way narcotics are formulated. One of my doctors showed me in a 2009 PDR (Physicians Desk Reference) and a 2018 PDR the chemical configuration difference of several different synthetic opiates. There is no longer an oxytocin release from the pituitary gland from synthetic opiates. Oxytocin is where the euphoria comes from, but if you were in enough pain (like most pain patients) you didn't get much if any euphoria. This is why your meds are barely any help to you, me and others these days. 75% of the effectiveness came from oxytocin from the pituitary gland. Now it's just the synthetic opiate itself with no help from oxytocin from the pituitary gland.

You could take a ton of pills and you'd never get high and just get sick to your stomach or even OD from the large amount of synthetic opiates you ingested. Your pain will not improve much unless the actual dosage of said pill is increased. Like 5, 10, 15 or 30mg individual dosages, not just more pills. They have all been altered to prevent that.

This is definitely one of the biggest shams pulled on the American public by our government and Big Pharma due to their FAKE opioid crisis. The brand name and generics are all altered to the new formulation. I'm on 5 times the amount I use to take just 8 years ago. I was on 6 - 5mg roxicets for almost 20 years and they worked fine. With no increase until they started reformulation of the drugs.

They tried to use the term tolerance when they started reducing and then eliminating the oxytocin release from the pituitary gland all together from the reformulation. We're paying a lot of money for inferior narcotic analgesics being produced because of the FAKE opioid crisis. I and several other people have tried to get a law firm to take a case against Big Pharma suppliers and the government for fraudulent sales of an inferior product. Even with solid evidence no law firm wants to touch it with a 10 foot poll...

They said because doctors and pharmacists were made fully aware of the reformulation that there's absolutely no case whatsoever! Plus with the opioid crisis still being employed by the government, that most if not all judges would throw out the case at summary judgement...

So... All of you out there that thought something had been done to alter the effectiveness of your life saving pain medications... You were right! It's not in your head and has absolutely nothing to do with tolerance!

I suggest anyone who doesn't believe this to find an older PDR, around 2009 and a 2019 PDR and compare the chemical tree, all information and all foot notes... Yes!, your doctor and pharmacists were complicit and fully aware of this or they don't stay on top of the medications they prescribe and dispensed to us... Playing stupid when confronted with factual evidence seems to be the norm these days...

Either way, we've all been played for stupid by the government, Big Pharma, pharmacies and doctors who were suppose to have their patients best interest at hand. They didn't!

Now you guys and gals all know the truth, it's time to let your doctor's and pharmacists know you know the truth too! Imagine doctors are being told to prescribe less of an inferior drug to their patients and be complicit...

They all have no SHAME!!!

When I found this out late last year I got insanely mad! You should too! This is your's and my quality of life! All of these charlatans have spit in our faces like we're all nitwits! For years I searched for the truth about what has been done to our meds. I always knew something had been done to the oxytocin levels and I was right! I've posted this on other sites about the REAL TRUTH! Please spread the word about the truth of what they've done...

They can't put the genie back in this bottle ever again...

DEMAND:
Reformulate our medications back to allow the oxytocin release from the pituitary gland!!!
Stop punishing suffering Americans because of your failed war on drugs!!!

To the government, GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND HOSPITALS!!! They went to medical school and are board certified in pain management! The government isn't!

Add this to the enormous list of government involvement making something much worse and punished innocent people...

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Re: methadonehater (# 135) Expand Referenced Message

What does it matter? He was Epileptic as well, had pneumonia a year earlier and was in a coma one week. He was never the same didn’t know how to use a washer machine, knowing this he became depressed. He was a brainiac an A student dead at 25 because of a PREDATOR DRUG DEALER. You may say he had a choice, but he wasn’t the same and was in college at UMASS AMHERST. My family has been through hell and still going through it. He was put in rehab three times twice Florida once California. He was in a bubble and wanted to get out but could not! There’s no help for these kids they can sign themselves out they don’t hold you long enough there is no cure but death in most. It’s been five years and if not for my faith I’d of died with him as we were very close but he hid it. I pray for all addicted afflicted and mentally ill. Now do you get it? Anyone here should not throw the first stone.
Is it their fault your doctor won’t prescribe for you? NO.

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Re: Charlene (# 142) Expand Referenced Message

Well, I'm not going to use the word j***** because I'm sure when they were young and you asked them what they wanted to be in life, I'm sure it wouldn't be that. But let's get real. I'm sure there are more dying out in the streets because of problems such as not knowing what they are getting, what dosage to use etc.. I do have to mention this. A girlfriend's daughter had really trashed her apartment, had all kinds of scary people coming over knocking and going through the daughters window and threatening Mom etc. I remember Mom was so scared for their lives. Mom has been sick (has lymphoma and goes to treatment at the hospital because she was very weak) the daughter had no compassion for her. Stole anything she could get her hands on and practically cleaned out everything that was Mom's while Mom was in the hospital, said and did some other horrible things to her that I'm not going to mention. Then left her with a trashed apartment, no money and Mom could barely function when she came home. Mom finally kicked her out and got the people from Council on Aging to help her get back on her feet. NOW, I'm not saying all or even a few addicts are like that but I think drugs really got ahold of this girl real bad. She also has warrants for her so it's only a matter of time. And dig this, Mom actually knows where she is living and will not turn on her after all she did to her. All Mom can do is pray and hope that one day her daughter will get the help she needs and get her back as she was before it is too late.

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