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I have ten suboxones. I have been taking oxycontin for pain but want to try at home to w/d. I can't discuss this with my doctor as it will affect my insurance. This is a fact..in my case... Can someone on here tell me how to take my subs? I would appreciate any answers and no lectures. How many do I need to withdraw..Thanks so much.

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A 14 day regimen is not necessary. I have been on subs for three years. During this time I have had to have surgery in which I have had to return to using percs. Thus withdraw again. Just a few subs were needed.

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Listen to your body. If the subs have worked then you will know. If your not withdrawing anymore then they have done their job.

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You don't need to be in full withdraw before taking a sub. I have been on them for three years. I know. That's terrible advice. Your telling what u have read not what you have experienced. You only need to wait about 18 hours after your last opiate use to use a suboxone.

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No, i am telling what i have experienced. you are just plain WRONG. you tell someone its ok to take subutex too soon and you are going to send them into precipitated withdrawals, which is the worst thing ive ever experienced. yes, EXPERIENCED. ive been a opiate addict for 30 years, ive been on subutex, suboxone, methadone liquid, methadone tablets....i know what im talking about. and if you like, you can look it up. its called PRECIPITATED WITHDRAWALS. they are from taking a partial agonist/antagonist too soon after full agonist opiates. you can look that up too. naabt.org/faq_answers.cfm?ID=5

now you DO say to wait 18 hours before taking the subs. which is accurate if you are talking about opiates like oxys or vicodin. but if a person has been without their primary opiate of choice for 18 hours, they likely WOULD BE in withdrawal anyway, so you are correct.... in a way. actually you arent making a lot of sense. and with methadone, a person needs to wait more like 48 hours because methadone takes a lot longer to leave your body than other opiates. this i also know from EXPERIENCE.

please stop telling people they dont need to be in withdrawal before they take bupe. your inaccurate advice is going to send someone into some seriously bad withdrawals. i was pre-med at berkeley, and studied addiction medicine extensively (yes, a junkie studying junkies), my addiction doctor is the leading addiction specialist in colorado, was the addiction specialist for the denver nuggets NBA team, and speaks in front of the colorado state legislature on matters of addiction and treatment. so this isnt just coming from my experience AND my studies, this is coming from him. you should trust me on this.

and again...please, PLEASE...anyone planning on taking buprenorphine after full agonist opiates...DO NOT listen to this person who says you dont have to be in withdrawals before starting subutex/suboxone! you will regret it!

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Hi, I have been taking opiates now for four yrs. I like everyone else is ready to stop. I have 2 subs, the orange pills, I know you have to start when you are in full withdrawals, I'm wondering if I should take the whole pill at first, or do I break it in half and take half? Thank you anyone who can help me with this.

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Dib: I doubt that only 2 suboxone pills is going to do much for you. It will help with maybe a day or two's worth of withdrawal symptoms, but once that wears off, you are going to be sick. Sorry, but 2 is just not enough to do a real detox. Any possibility of getting more? Or can you go to a suboxone doctor and start a real withdrawal plan?

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T TIME: That precipitated withdrawal IS a b****, ain't it? I thought I knew what pretty bad withdrawals were. Oh, oh NO friend..... LOOK OUT!!!!!

Those are some serious heeby friggin jeebies, that precip. stuff. You don't want any PART of those thangs...

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I have done this process 100 times. Been on dope and oxies for 14 years. Wait until the morning time, so that u have had 8-12 hours w no drugs. Then, take 2 mgs of the subs. If its a pill, cut it into 2mg chunks, if its an 8mg strip, cut it in quarters. Put the strip or chunk under ur tongue amd let it dissolve. Do not spit. Swalow all of the medicine. U will have some cravings, but no withdrawls. This will last 24-36 hours, trust me. The next morning, do the same thing. Maybe even try less. U want to get off and done with the suboxone as quick as possible, or u will get hooked on it. After 4-5 days, dont take anything. See how u feel. Remember, a craving isnt a wd, although it can feel like it. Dont drink booze! I know you think it will take the edge off, it wony. It will make ur cravings go thru the roof.

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BIG AL: I don't know what kind of habit you had, as far as the amount, but 2mgs of Bupe wouldn't even TOUCH me. I think telling someone that they "won't have any withdrawals" because that is YOUR experience with taking only 2mgs at a time is very short sighted. When I was on Bupe, I had to get to at LEAST 8 to 10 mgs to get any relief whatsoever, and was taking over 20 mgs a day.

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For Sandra and any others that are standing up and doing an amazing thing by taking a big step with accepting the problem but also cannot get ANY help for attempting to do one of the hardest things ever and are having the exact issues my husband had (no doctors available, doing it in your own) as well as maintaining which is difficult as well. Not every person reacts the same to the naloxene (this ingredient is not in Subutex, used in the beginning days of withdrawal, which only contains the buprenorphine). This is not the ONLY thing that is "believed to be the truth" concerning Suboxone. In saying no person reacts the same, this also pertains to dosage, need of amount and how often, availability.

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Subutex and Suboxone are the same thing. They are both Buprenorphine. Yes one has Naloxone and one doesn't, but it is the Bupe itself that is the active ingredient, the "blocker" to simplify it. The Naloxone is only in there to keep people from injecting the Bupe. The bioavailability of Naloxone when taken sublingually is less than 10%, maybe even less than 5%. So it doesn't matter which one you use in the "first days of withdrawal", the results are the same.

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Hi to everyone who has been on pain medicine yes suboxone will work and I only have to take 4mg a day also Gabapentin 300mg a day really helps it is for withdrawals it's a non narcotic but works good also Methocarbonol goes with it really good for muscle cramps also non narcotic but good. Hope this helps Have a blessed day

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I am prescribed suboxone 8mg strips, but I received an 8mg pill. Do I let that dissolve under my tongue as well?

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CALIGIRL1983: Yes, the Subutex/Suboxone tablets go under your tongue, just like the strips.

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How long after a suboxone sublingual (orange pill - 54 375) is dissolved can you drink and eat? Are there any other things I should know about administration and how to get the full effect? Is there anything that interferes with it?

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You have to be off the oxycontin long enough to start feeling the withdrawals, THEN, and only then, you take the suboxone. I was on a high dose of hydrocodone, and just 2mg calmed me down. Make what you have last. Start with 2mg, if that doesn't help, take another 2mg. Just a little - it goes a long way.

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so I am also trying to withdraw with subs i was prescribed 3 a day and only needed to take 1 but then was suddenly cut off the subs so i was doing pills (OXY) for a week or so when i decided it was time to just detox all together, I went 2 days with out anything then I broke down and ate 1/4 of a sub will this just start me back at square one or will it just float me through the rough patch (crossing fingers) I too have taken a week off work to do this I have 3 days left...

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I have been. Taking sub for ten yrs on and off if you got 5 wait til in a little withdrawal then place 1 under tounge for two days then break n half then in quarter. And u be fine

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I've been a heroin/opiate addict for 23 years now. I'm 44, and I did my first bag of dope when I was about 20, and other than detoxes or rehabs or methadone maintenance for a few years, it was dope every day of my life since 20. THERE'S A LOT OF POOR ADVICE AND REPLIES. There are so, so many half truths or what may work for one may be totally wrong for another. Suboxone can be a wonder drug if it's used correctly. Also, from the countless detoxes, rehabs, clinics I been in, it works much much better with a short term opiate like dope or morphine or dilaudid. Not as well as with time released or long half life opiates, like Methadone. That doesn't say it won't work, it's just been my personal exp. Suboxone for the VAST majority of ppl is hugely better than Methadone. And a lot of ppl on here want to try to give you some generic number of hours after you've "used" to take suboxone. It has nothing to do with a number. It has to do with you not being high anymore, and have your w/d just at the point of starting. It also has to do with how much you're using. For some, such as myself, I've used it as close as 10 hours after my last use of H. For some ppl that may be too soon, and others may be in w/d before 10 hours based on the qauality and type of you're last use and what you've been using on a daily basis in general. Getting off Sub though, after you take it for a while, can be a bitch. Just like MMT, you got to take the LEAST you have to to feel "normal", get structure back in your life and get used to not having to run to cop or hustle up money every 5 minutes. Start to learn how to spend time doing things. AGAIN, i can't stress this enough, that may be 5 days for one person and 5 years for another. Everybody thinks it's going to be different for them, so be prepared to take an honest hard look at your life and what has to change. THEN, stop subs. When you get to a pill a day, start taking half. After a few days, at least 4 or 5. Then take half of that. The tricky part is that if you stop subs, for 2 or 3 days you can feel fine, but because of the long half life, if you take subs for any period of time more than a few days, you will go thru sub withdrawals which WILL lead you back to dope. So, do it SLOWLY, take how much you need, and ONLY as much as you NEED. When you start feeling better, which happens real quickly when we stop using opiates other than sub, don't get complacent, work at getting your life as close to normal as possible,, then start a sub taper schedule.

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So, I only need to take 1/4 of a pill and thats it I know you said it stays in your system for 3 days, but my question is about the dosage I'm confused about how many to take

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