Generic Norco M367 10/325 (Page 9)

It's no good. I have to take three at a time for 1 hour of pain relief. Anybody else have this problem with M367 - 10/325? Has anyone else noticed that meds from certain manufacturers do not work as well for them?

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Precious why exactly are you on this site? And why are you getting so upset? Is it because people like us complain and it makes it harder for you to get your meds? Most of us on this site have chronic problems that will never be cured so please stop judging people you do not know. No one wants to hear your bull s***. When you know what real pain is and your meds become ineffective then speak about it. May God bless your soul.

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Well said, Patty. Hopefully, Precious will be bounced from this site as she has been reported by a couple of us. God bless you, Patty.

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I fully testify that there is a huge difference in the M367 white oblong pills. They are definitely weak, and I feel like I'm being ripped off. There is something missing, and all the people who have felt the same way, are not "drug tolerance", or any other excuse. The sellers of this drug try to fool us! It's not fair that the FDA has given drug companies 20% room to deprive the public of the full dose intended! Shame on you!

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I agree. The pharmacies have nothing else or so they say. I still will not take more than prescribed or I will be short, and I am sure everyone is dealing with the same issues.

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They are weaker. Their is not even an arguement for those who have taken both. Ive been a registered nurse for 15 years giving them out and taking and their is no comparison

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I appreciate the encouragement. These youngsters seem to think they know it all. Their young little bodies have not aged enough to really understand what real chronic pain is. All generics actually vary from prescription to prescription. Even by the same manufacturer and the same dose can vary when you get your monthly supply. Seems to me that on occasion whomever was gauging the ingredients missed something on the batch. Only when you use the exact generic by the same manufacturer can you tell that some refills just plain ole don't work. I have had to return three scripts (bottles of pain medicine) to my doctor over the last two years. Fortunately the replacement refills worked. So I know it is not in my head. I take exactly as prescribed. That itself explains why on very rare occasion, I have problems with my other medications not being effective. This is why I believe that the FDA is not monitoring the manufacturers of generic drugs. I think the manufacturers of some generics don't care because they and the pharmacies have a no refund policy for bad meds sold. In fact, we are having to pay to go back to a doctor for a replacement prescription and pay for the medicine again. It is sad that the Government (FDA) approves these generics, but do not require any follow up analyzes to make sure these manufacturers are consistently providing the public with the generic medicine in the same strength/ingredients that was originally approved.

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I've only had those once and they relieved pain for about an hour. My biggest complaint about them was I felt a side effect I did not like. It seemed to mess with my balance. When I started taking Norco they were by a company called Watson and they worked fine. Now I have been on Qualitest for years and they do the job well. I'm too old to argue with pharmacists as I don't care if they think I'm a dope head or not. It's like I'm not going to their house for Thanksgiving anyway. I want pain relief, bottom line, and have no plan to have to move up to anything stronger. The M367's are a bad joke. I got those at rite aid and have not gone back.

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Jeff you are fortunate that your doctor believes you. Many doctors are saying it is in our heads. Years ago my family doctor who has been retired for many years, told me that generic Valium was weak. He hated generics. I think physicians believe the propaganda they get from the pharmaceutical companies. Doctors are over booked and tired and they have no compassion for those with chronic pain. There are exceptions but how do we find those doctors? The newer younger doctors have been trained to avoid prescribing controlled substances.

Recently I complained about something in my file. They ask if I smoke or drink and I answered "No" They wrote "Denies smoking and drinking." I said that was hurtful and that it looked like they do not believe anything I say. I mentioned it and I was told that they are trained to write that down. What a horrible way to treat people. Pain management is not for me. We are guilty of being addicts from day one. It does not matter how little we take or how good our blood work looks. Addicts have elevations and doctors know an elderly person will not have the same blood work as a young person, but blood work does tell the story.

Life sucks.

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Jasmine-I get the funny looks. These Dr.s do not take these medications. Over the years, there were many users that had no business being prescribed these meds. Abuse and over dosing took place regularly among these recreational users. So, Dr.s over the years have heard it all. Now that there is a legitimate reason for needy patients to complain about their medications, the Dr.s play it like the old patient abuse game. The FDA/dea knew this was going to be the domino effect with precribers, afterall the doctors do not actually take this medicine. So, it seems the guv plan was structured against anyone taking or requiring pain medication. First, up the schedule of the medicine, second, make it costly for a refill, thirdly, require manufactures to change the formula to their standard in a very short period of time. The guv knew good and well that requiring a change in the ingredient make-up would curb demand because the medicine would not be effective for chronic pain relief anymore. By the med not working correctly and requiring these meds to be treated as a higher scheduled narcotic, it would be not be worth the publics while to even take them anymore. It would be too costly if the meds worked correctly, and would be a waste of time and money if the meds did not. In the end, recreational use has probably decreased. But now, the users with the legitimate need for these medications are seeing the careless hand of the guv making their lives miserable.

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We are subjected to all kinds of abuse Have you seen this?

Walgreens' "secret checklist" reveals. Google the information.

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The Federal Govt targeted Walgreen months ago and used them as a national example by taking a few isolated oversights by someone in a pharmacy and imposed a multi million dollar fine. It seems that if it was up to Walgreens now, they would get out of the pain medication business all together. But, because of laws governing such, they decided to take it out on the people that elected the officials that govern this great land that fined them. In doing this, they imposed their own in house system against any customers seeking to have pain medication filled in their pharmacies nationwide it seems . By doing such, they are sending a message to the people (Guv). "You fine us, we will fine you back in our own way. So if you want pain meds, deal with it or go somewhere else". Another unfortunate tactic in the arsenal against prescription pain medicines I guess.

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They lie and say they are out of medication. They are now faced with the opposite legal cases. It looks like pain patients are hiring lawyers now.

CVS is worse. The female pharmacist was nasty. I quit using them and they lost a lot of money. I spend hundreds every month on household supplies and personal products, shampoo vitamins etc. They will see how their profits go way down.

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Jasmine,

I googled that and can't believe it. In this day and age we have pharmacists that look for "red flags"? I've been on them for over 8yrs and except for last years shortage have never had any problems. They can ask my doctors anything they like but if they choose to play games and delay or refuse to fill my script I will get what I need through other means, no problem. I will never give some pharmacy the power to cause me pain.

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Beagle, you have said it all in a nutshell! God bless you. I have a hard time getting out of bed in the morning to start my day, and if it weren't for the Qualitest Norco, I would be in bed probably all day. That is no way to live, and as I am only 62, I have a lot of life to live yet. I do not want to spend it in bed! Take care, my friend.

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Sandy can you tell us which pharmacy has Qualitest? Walgreens says they only have Activis and that it is the branded Norco. After reading about the lies they tell , I would bet that they are not telling us the truth and they may order the cheaper inferior brand to save money.

Beagle I also can find what I need and by pass the BS. So far I have been told Norco 10 by Activis is the best. I know that is 100% false.

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As we know Nocor does not work. So, does anyone have any idea what we should be asking for?

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Ask for Vicophrofen or name brand in Vicodin. None of the gereric Norcos seem to work for chronic pain anymore. Norco will probably cover a toothache on a one time prescription, but chronic pain, NOTTA.

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Beagle, Try using a different Walgreens location than you normally use, request a refill a day early with a prescription written by another Dr, at the same practice. They will basically call the Walgreen Police. You will be recited a "Red Flag" check list by the pharmacist in hand and be treated like a criminal. You will then probably be told that this Red Flag list is part of their new customer service program and tell you to take it back to your normal location to get the prescription filled. Walgreens seems to use very young low payed pharmacist that seem to watch too many detective shows. This is not fiction. This has been rumored to be a direct result of a major DEA fine a short time ago.

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Jasmine
I think Activis is the company that bought out Watson. They had stopped making yellow Watson 853 before that and made a white one. Watson 853 was yellow and was the best out there to reduce pain. I wish they were still around. It's too bad they won't let you try a few.

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Jasmine, I now get mine through Express Scripts mail order as my insurance company requires we use them. I have Anthem Blue Cross insurance. I get a 90-day supply for $10. Otherwise, you need to ask the pharmacists in your area if they carry it. Sometimes they will tell you. I would steer clear of Walgreens with all the issues they have and create. It is so hard with the FDA getting involved in re-rating these medicines that it makes those of us who truly need pain meds. feel like criminals. Just don't be afraid to ask. Best of luck to you, hon.

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