Generic Buprenorphine 54 411 Vs M 924 (Page 4) (Top voted first)

I've been going to a clinic for almost a year now and each time I get prescribed 8mg Subutex. When I would fill my prescription I would receive 54 411 white tablets. Today when I picked it up I got M 924 white tablets. The only difference I've found is the manufacturer. The manufacturer for the 54 411 is ROXANE and for the M 924 is MYLAN. Are they pretty much the same pill just different imprint/manufacturer?

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Re: Frustrated460 (# 150)

I was also told the same thing by west ward pharma 3 months ago then everything went back to normal now it’s happening again only place I can find 54 411 are Walmart’s. And the Walmart’s tell me it’s on back order. Which west ward told me can’t be bc they have filled all their orders?!?! I live in Indiana. I do not understand.... it’s so popular with bup patients so why do they do this?? Thank you for your post!

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I looked into how much buprenorphine is in each generic and Mylan actually has the lowest amount of bup in all the generics, all the others have 8.64mg of bup equalvent and 8mgs,. Only 2 others have only 8mg..period. and that's sun, and actavis the orange half moon one... the new Rhodes is the best out there for us..they are so well made and just perfect looking medication.

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After 10 years on all different meds, unfortunately I have found that the MYLAN brand is one of the worst makers of all. I simply REFUSE any and all MYLAN medications. They are so INFERIOR.

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Is that 100% for sure that the m924 has more buprenorphin than the 54 411. Ive been taking the 54 411 for couple or few years and have 2 of the m924 cause I ran short this month but am hoping they will do the job for the next 2 days until I go back to doctor

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Meghann- What were some of the things you didnt like about the M-924 . I feel like they arent working like the Roxanne Brand but everyone said its in my head?? Someone please let me know If there is really much of a difference. Kmart charges 144 for my Mylans script and Walmart charges 274 for my script with the Roxannes. Crazy difference huh!

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Wal-Mart charges me $140 for 56 of the Roxane 54 411s but I use a discount card.

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I would like to know as well. Everyone keeps sayn from where I'm use to the 54 411 it's in my head but the m ones I would have to do more of.

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It's m924 bro it isn't m925 and I don't know I just got the m924 today have been for awhile now

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An RX coupon should get it down to about 160-170 at walmart

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Daveliss, I want to thank you for your response. Wow!! Sezuire's that is horrible, are you prone to seizures? I have withdrawn from a long list of Medications and I guess I have been one of the lucky ppl that don't get seizures, at all... knock on wood....... So I totally know what you mean about the Libido thing, that is definitely out the window. I will be going away for a few years in a couple months, so this time when I get home from prison I will not use, not one single time... "Cause that's what I said to myself, oh April only tonight, then tonight turned into tomorrow, and so on, and on...... I do wish you the best and really appreciate your feedback.

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It is because the pharmacy's are having to pay more for the 54s and are getting the m ones cheaper I done figured it out samthing happend to me I really don't care anymore tho as long as I'm not sick

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I still have the 54 411 they haven't gone anywhere lol

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Re: DaveLis' post about the seizures he had after taking buprenorphine. That's a strange reaction to buprenorphine and it makes me wonder once again just what else these manufacturers are throwing into their "recipes."

In the past few months (give or take) I've noticed that the generic subutex made by Roxanne is different in that I can recall my dreams just as Dave mentioned in his post. I wasn't aware that this means you've not gone into the REM sleep stage, but I'm glad to know that.

I've always noticed that these pills have begun to make my mouth dry and my skin drier than usual (not cold-weather related), another reason to suspect they're mixing something else into the batches. This has never been a side effect I've experienced while taking this drug. Furthermore, the pills have a tendency now to make me more tired than usual, something I hadn't noticed before.

My suspicion is that some of the batches have been mixed with Benadryl (don't know the chemical name), hence the dry skin and the dreaming. Whenever I've taken Benadryl in the past I've had series of vivid dreams, not always the most pleasant and, needless to say, the dry skin/dry mouth can be a def. side effect of Benadryl considering it is an antihistamine. The tiredness is also a side effect of antihistamines.

Another time I had a batch of subutex generic that made me wonder if a benzo had been mixed into the ingredient list. I am very sensitive to benzos (hate them) with one of the side effects being that when they wear off my stomach begins to hurt very badly; well, this is the same reaction I had approx. 3 or 4 months ago. It wasn't just a week-long issue, either, which might have suggested I had a stomach virus or some other g.i. problem; this was definitely related to the drug itself.

They can put whatever the heck they want into this crap and call it whatever they want. As long as people buy it they're in the clear.
Incidentally, there's another thread that's been going on for a while on this website discussing problems with the Watson 325/10 hydro. (brand name: Norco). People are really worked up over the lack of efficacy in the recent batches being released.

The name of the thread is "New white Watson 853 10/325 problem - What is going on???!?" With so many people noticing something is amiss, I find it hard to believe that the problem is "all in their heads." Point is: It's not just the buprenorphine that's causing problems in its inconsistency.

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In Pennsylvania you can go from suboxone to subutex and vice versa. If you become pregnant while you are on suboxone the Dr will switch you to subutex. If you receive migraines you can be switched from suboxone to subutex. On the other side of things, if you are on subutex and are abusing opiates still the Dr. will switch from subutex to suboxone, or if you prefer the naloxone because of relapse scares you can go to suboxone from subutex. I know it's the same in Ohio and west Virginia as well. I don't see why you think it can't be done. They are the same drug with the only difference is suboxone has naloxone in it to prevent opiate abuse.

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Tapper off them....if u take one a day go to half a day for a couple weeks them 1/4 a day for a couple weeks then 1/4 every other day for a couple weeks then stop take on them..I done this after being on dope for 10 yrs then methadone ...suboxon... then Subutex and I tapered off that

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Unfortunately our Walmart does not dispense any kind of BUP.
I FIND OUT that the $200 dollar savings coupon can work on SUBUTEX.
YAY!!!!!! PUBLIX PHARMACY, LOVE THEM

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What is saving you 200 on subutex ??

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I heard about the walmart discount. I go for my first visit on thursday. Once im done with the doctor do i go to walmart and fill out a discount card and thats it?

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I absolutely agree that the M 924's definitely AREN'T the same as the 54 411's at all. I hate the M 924's. I've been on Buprenorphine "Subutex" for 5 years now and I cannot stand these new M 924's at all what so ever.

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I just got out of jail and had my suboxone films taken from me. So I had no choice to try a M 924 generic pill. I don't see a difference, the only difference is these tablets are generic Subutex and the strips are brand name suboxone. Difference being the blocker and that's about it! But they taste horrid.

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