Doctors Willing To Prescribe Heavy Pain Medication In Colorado (Page 269)
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I have a serious problem. My dr. had two patients start dr. shopping and has decided it is too big of a pain in his butt to continue prescribing, even though I have gotten MRIs and Xrays to prove my problems. I have over a half a dozen herniated discs in my low back, along with degenerative disc disease, spinal stenosis, scoliosis and arthritis in my facet joints. I am currently on5 30mg oxycodone a day for breakthrough and 60mg of methadone for my long lasting meds. I REALLY need a doctor in the Denver, CO area who will not judge me because of my age, thinking I'm just some drug seeker as I TRULY need my meds to function. I am even being placed on disability until I can get my back healed because if something doesn't change I will be in big time pain for the rest of my life. If ANYONE knows of a good doctor that prescribes strong meds willingly in the Denver area please let me know. I am in desperate need of help as I am going to be SCREWED if I cannot find a good doctor. SOMEONE please help me with a doctor!!!!!

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Really all I am saying is not everybody is the same and can take the same meds and have good or great results. I am not trying to make anyone mad or upset. This discussion should just stand where it is and move on. Have a good one.

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WOW! I know its not an oxycodone clinic its a pain clinic which oxy ir is a pain med like it or not and I too am a chronic pain sufferer. If only u walked a mile in my shoes with having the reactions and side effects then you would understand and not ASSUME that just because somebody only takes 1 narcotic med for pain that they are a red flag or abuser in your eyes. I have stuck up for you on this forum and even gave you the name of this doctor to begin with, I have tried a lot of stuff and still try to do my physical therapy to the best of my ability along with my tens unit that really doesn't do much. I want to know are you a doctor, nurse, or healthcare provider? Because I have told them my reactions to the ER oxy and all my other side effects and allergies and they understand even dr. May and his wife said it happens and the oxy er is different from oxy ir so I know they don't see me as a red flag or abuser. Yes I am mad right now cause I don't think its right for you to throw words out like your an expert on chronic pain when even most pain docs are not even experts they are still learning. It may be good for most patients to have an ER med and it works wonders for but there are some that really honestly can NOT take it my mother was the same she handled ir fine but could not take ER oxy at all and she had cancer but I guess really in your eyes she was just a red flag and just an abuser with no pain even though she was dying from cancer. So before you go on preaching about how chronic pain should or shouldn't be treated go to school and become a doctor.

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They can do whatever they want but its not a red flag if my body reacts with the ER version and not the IR one and they are different the only same ingredient is oxycodone but have
other ingredients in them which could have caused my reaction but I am on other meds besides just that I also take a ER pain med but its not a narcotic/opioid. But if opana is morphine or hydromorphone I am allergic I will hive up,any other suggestions are welcomed I really have went down a long list so already have tried and failed with exlago, oxycotin, lyrica, ect.. but my last pm doc said after that hmm your allergic to I.V morphine but have we tried tablet form? Um really??? If I am allergic to iv morphine don't you think I would be allergic to tablet form too? You know maybe I should have tried tablet form since my body reacts differently with ER form of oxy maybe a tablet form of an ER morphine would be ok. I am not a doctor but its worth a shot maybe.

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And the whole thing is, if they're only giving chronic pain patients an instant release, they're not technically doing what they should be doing. Chronic pain patients should be on high dose ER 2 to 3 a day, and 3 breakthrough meds a day. Less rebound pain, less tolerance buildup, it's better all around. The generic Opana who's patent just expired is not tamper proof, same with oxycontin generic in April this year. So hopefully those work better than the ones that are formulated all funky by Purdue. Try MS contin, fentanyl patches, Opana, oxycontin in April, exalgo (ER hydromorphone if you have name brand coverage). Try all the options and after all, it's a pain management clinic not an oxycodone clinic. No one with chronic pain should only be on an IR med. No one. It's about long acting control with breakthru. And trust me, being a chronic pain sufferer, i feel like extended release medications are a gift from God. Like i said, no rejoins pain, less tolerance, and overall better pain control. All around better

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Tam they're not judging you. They're following DEA and MANY other studies' suggestions that chronic pain is best managed with a higher dose long acting med, like ERs, and then on a breakthru a few times a day when the ER is kind of fading. Try Opana. It's GREAT for chronic pain, you would still get a few oc's and your pain would be managed to the utmost. I've always understood that its long acting, and breakthrough. SOOOOOO many people at cpr say only oxycodone ir and nothing else and when it's three most abused drug around and 14,000 deaths from pain meds last year, they should be doing something to weed out people who are taking it to abuse it but also make chronic pain patients live better. All I'm saying is a chronic pain patient who can't take ANYTHING else, even the same drug just extended release, that is a red flash for the dea. If Dr. May doesn't follow their suggestions, AD I FEEL HE SHOULD BE, he can lose his license and get shut down. None of us want that.

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@chaos. Ya some pharmacists are d***s. But honestly. I'm on methadone for my long acting oc for my breakthrough. I switch to methadone because it helps to keep your tolerance to opiates down more if you switch between it and another long acting med such as your ms contin. Plus it's easy on the insurance premium cuz it's cheap. TRY To give a good pharmacy that has a pharmacist you will become close to, that should help minimize things like that.

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Ya know Mac, I would rther be taking methadone because of the length the body regulates it, and it is a less expensive med. I have taken methadone for chronic pain but only for two months, in a different state, but I found significant relief in 20 mg s of methadone a day for back pain, I have back pain and cyst on pituitary gland now. I should ask my dr what he thinks. The morphine has been much needed because of the ER qualities, but it is still kinda weird, my body is still trying to adjust t,it is a lil rough on my tummy and does give me dizziness,but then at times i'm not sure if the dizziness is from the cyst,or accompanied with a my constant headache and the morphine kinda is weird...Will let you know if I get the nerve to ask him. I have anxiety very bad, and then at times out of control I get 'white jacket anxiety " some similar phrase describing dr. anxiety. That also come from being mistreated by and at the hands of dr.s who have that stinky God complex!! IJS thanks you everyone for your insight, experiences,joys pains and knowledge and understanding....This is why I feel comfortable here..With people also struggling to live somewhat comfortably...As pain is a part of life and it's a night mare because medication is only going to do so much, you have to accept that you are going to experience pain it will not ever be 100% gone, this I state for my condition.....So I try to enjoy those days when my pain is at a 4,!!

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KING SOOOPERS,I have been getting oxycodone 10/325for a year and a half, no PDMP neither, I remember one time they held on to and waited for doc to verify an oxycodone 10/325 scrip.. I waited wasn t angry just a few days wait. Theyverified the scrip after doc called back . pharmacist tells doc "she's had other docs write vicodin for her" Doc fires me IMMEDIATLY!!! well a month later at a visit,welooked at thePDMP, doc and I. Yes I did receive vicodin from another doc...a year ago!! Soyesi went through pure harassment with them,but decicded sticking to them since they had verified,eveything. I really I didn t want to chance such treatment t a "new' pharmacy didn t want to look as though I was "pharmacy shopping".this was 8months ago, new PM puts me on MsContin (morphine Er) starting does 15mg.(plus vicodin 10/325 3 x day prn breakthrough pain) movin g forward about 2 weeks into prescription I asked doc for more vicodin per day,he just is/has increased the MScontin strength (now I understand why hindsight) so he increased me to 30 mgs ms contin. I dropped it off at KIND SOOPERS (same pharmacy mind you) I told the tech, this is an increase in dosage. I went back topick up the pharmacist "flew" from behind the counter to tell me "no this is still too soon" Noproblem I still had some 15mgs to take. So I had to wait idk estimate 10-11 daya to pick up this increase. Well I ended up getting increased to 60 mgs. This I told my doc I needed to increase that I increased on days of my menstrual cycle which magnifies my headaches from a cyst sittin on my pituitary gland...We are working towards finding a comfortable dose so no problem he increased it , and I told him that I switched pharmacies because Walgreens has no problem if it is a different dose or dosage they will fill and my insurance has no problem with it, It was that 1 pharmacist who said he will not fill another prescription of a higher dosage of my MSCONtin until 28-30 calendar days pass ..I ended up switching to Walgreens one day after going to 2 King Soopers and they did not have the amount of pills on the scrip I said screw driving ANOTHER en miles I went across the street, explained everything to the pharmacist at Walgreens, after making sure they had enough to dispense, she looked up my history ran my insurance , have had no problems with WAlgreens I this state at my location.. Different story in Tampa Fl Walgreens however

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I understand the doctors have to cover their butts but if they are doing everything right and have patients that have tried other meds and have found a way for relief of most of their pain (meds, physical therapy, ect.) then there shouldn't be any issues and change unless it has started to not provide relief. People should not be judged or be called an abuser or being looked at as "its a red flag" because they cannot take certain meds at least they tried it.

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I understand what mac is explaining. it does make sense, the DEA does have to "try' and do something, as i'm sure they are pressured because of death and abuse. Is this fair?? I don't think it's all fair but it seems logical...it would be terrible to not to be able to take ERs for my pain!! I feel better as before taking 6-8 Hydrocodone10 with acetaminophen.

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let me know how its working out maC686, if you were in jersey i could defenetly help you man, I've been reading the posts on here and its got me curious so keep us posted if possible, good luck

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sorry 2 hear that brother but unfortunately your probably guna have 2 go to a methadone clinic, I'm 21 years old and live in new jersey and i have a greatttt doctor who scripts me 150mgs of methadone per day, i get 450 10mg pills a month and luckily i can save a bunch so i always have 600 or more, your best and most consistent option is a methadone clinic, good luck, by the way my doctor always tells me I'm sooo f***ing lucky she writes me methadone because 99% of doctors refuse to do it

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Ya unfortunately if that's their new policy that's what it is...... Sucks if you have problems with ER because they really are the best, no rebound pain all the time, lower tolerance. A good dose of ER and a few breakthroughs is actually ideal for chronic pain.

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Were they the name brand Purdue Oxycontin that say OP on the one side??? Because those are the "tamper proof" ones of which the formula has been changed to a point where I've heard they aren't nearly the same as the old school ones. But luckily in April, Purdue's patent is up and the old school formulation generic Oxycontin will be back. And tac, I would be willing to bet that FAR more people abuse Oxycodone because most people who abuse them snort them and the Oxy IRs crush right up. Everyone I know that uses pills goes for the 30mg IR. Period. I haven't seen anyone with the time release ones in FOREVER!!!!! So hopefully when the generics come out they won't give you bad side effects. What were the side effects when you went to the ER. And have you tried Opana?

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Wow...this is some crazy stuff I can relate to tac I too tried oxy er and had bad side effects that's when they tried the normal oxy ir and crazy as it seems I was ok. But really I am not an abuser and I am not standing for me getting punished because of somebody who decided to overdose its not right.Red flag or not I have proof that I do everything right and jump ththrough the dea's hoops play their simon says game and deserve to be treated. Mac I read you found another place do u mind emailing me with their info so I can have a back up plan please. I have way too much crap going on and don't need to worry about this again.

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Sorry and the most abused drug is oxy er not oxy ir because the er holds more of the oxycodone and they by-pass the control release part.

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Sorry you said abusers. But I didn't say I am allergic to oxy et I said I had bad side effects from them and there is a difference in the fillers and how its made which can cause some people to be allergic/and or have side effects that they wouldn't from oxy ir. I said I am allergic to morphine, and with the er oxy I first got severe dizziness then nausea and confused, it was scary I thought the same as u that it was the same drug but boy I was wrong and refuse to take that crap again. I then tried methadone which made me constantly throw up and ended up in the hospital(yet again) for lots of iv fluids and a nice migraine. Not everybody is the same there are people who you can't treat out of a textbook.

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Whoa there guy, no one said anything about anyone being an addict. I'm just saying it is a red flag when the most abused drug in the country is the ONLY thing that could. No they would probably write you 3 a day. But they won't just do ONLY oxy IR. The DEA is saying if you have chronic pain they will want you to be on an 12 hour narcotic med if any narcotic meds, and then if you need a breakthrough, you won't need more then 3 a day because your ER med should be at the right dose..... I'm not calling you an addict or judging at all, but that just makes no sense to me that you are allergic to the exact same drug when it's ER as opposed to IR.... Do you mind telling me why the doctor's said you needed to be hospitalized because of an ER formula???

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That's fine but pretty much your saying someone who for some reason can't take oxy er because of side effects that has put them in the hospital is a addict? I have tried all the er meds and am allergic to morphine and really honest to god can't take the oxy er the only long acting med I am on is my naproxen but have oxy ir 4 times a day but get enough totake 6 but for my 2times I have bowel movements but all ttogether I only take it 4times a day. So with me only taking it 4 times a day that would probably be ok then? From what your saying.

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Ok, so here's the deal. The DEA has "suggested", and technically, if you have chronic pain, this is how it should be handled anyway. But they suggested that anyone who has legitimate chronic pain should be on a long acting medication and they have one for a breakthrough, with a maximum of 3 breakthrough meds per day. Which I've ALWAYS understood that anyone who has legitimate chronic pain is on a long acting medication and they have one for a breakthrough. Which I am fine with because Opana is now generic and Purdue's patent for Oxycontin expires in April so by May or June there will be generics of the old school Oxy ER because I only have generic prescription insurance so that's why I've been on methadone, plus it helps with tolerance. So the doctors are taking people who will ONLY take Oxy IR who supposedly have chronic pain off of them especially if that's the only thing they'll agree to. It's not an Oxycodone clinic, it's a pain management clinic and by doing this they really are managing chronic pain in the correct manner and in the process possibly weeding out the abusers, because that's a red flag really in and of itself saying ONLY Oxycodone IR is what I'll take. So they're doing what they DEA is asking them to do, which is happening at many other doctors as well. If you have CHRONIC pain, you absolutely should be on an extended release med and have a breakthrough. And their goal is to get you to a dose of long acting medication to where you need a maximum of 3 break thru meds a day. It helps with rebound pain, tolerance, everything. So it's not a huge deal to me. As long as my pain is being taken care of I'm cool. No one with 24/7 pain should be on something that only lasts 2-4 hours and have to take it all the time. It just doesn't make sense.

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