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I had a knee surgery yesterday. I have been using subutex to help me taper narcotics. I stopped the subutex 2 weeks before surgery. My doctor prescribed both percocet and oxycontin. I am getting no pain relief. The iv Dilaudid worked in the hospital. Has anyone taken Dilaudid by pill at home?

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Go back to taking the subutex. It works much better than the others.

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I have suffered with chronic neck and back pain for years due to disk and nerve problems. My Dr. switched me from oxycontin to diulaudid (4-8 mg) and it worked for the first 9 mos. or so, then I got no relief. Many people get sick on it or very itchy. I am now on a higher dosage of Percoset.

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Are you familiar with subutex?

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i have been in pain with a spine cond. since I was hurt in the ArMY in the 70s and I now take methadone hydrocloride/ dolphine / I take at least 200 mgs. a day and it is super habit forming and you cant go a day with out it but it works for me - it is the only thing that does and i have taken over 300mgs a day at times , so think twice prior to its use. once you get up there on it most do not get off.but I do not regret its use at all.

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The reason that the drugs are not working has nothing to do with the fact that you were on the Subutex, it has to do with the fact that your body had developed a tolerance to high amounts of drugs, therefore that smaller amounts you are given are not going to have much of an effect on your body.

dizzy, my advice to you is to make sure you speak to your doctor, including whomever is doing your surgery and make them away of what you were taking, why you were taking it and what dosages your body had a tolerance to.

By doing this, your doctor can decide what would be the best drug to use for you for after surgery pain relief and how much will need to be used.

However, if you were using the Subutex to beat an addiction, no doctor is going to give you large amounts of opiates and risk starting your addiction all over again. So don't expect them to give you a high dosage that will relieve all of your pain. They will most likely give you something mild to take at home, once you leave the hospital and recommend other methods to help relieve the pain without large doses of drugs.

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I suffer from severe sciatica. I have been taking the pill form (4-8mg.) for almost two months now along with a Fentanyl 50 mcg patch. This combination has been the first combo to work for me in over 18 mos. I started with low does percocet then brought up to the highest dose 650/10 for a few months with not much relief. This higher does also made me vomit every day and was then put on an anti-nausia drug. Then the Fentanyl patch was added and slowly increased to 75 mcgs. Unfrotunately this made me very irritable and I was no dream to live with! Thank God I have a patient husband. Once the doctor found out about the irritability and how sick the percocets were making me. I asked for the Fentanyl to be lowered back to 50 and he changed me from percocet to 4mg of dilaudid, that was not working very well so he gave me permission to take two when the break through pain was severe. Well it is severe everyday given the lowing of the Fentanyl. So now I take 1 4mg. in the morning as soon as the pain starts in my left buttox and left leg, then in the afternoon because of my increase in activity (finally) I take two because the pain is worse and then two for the same reason (increased activity) around or after dinner. Sometimes I do take one more late in the evening if I can not sleep due to pain.

The above combination has been the first combo to work for me for over 18 mo. of severe pain. I finally have some quality of life back! My husband says he has his wife back! :) And I am able to do things with my 20 year old son before he goes back to school in a few weeks. It has changed my life completely! I still have pain, even when I take two dilaudid, but it is bearable compaired to what I have been going through. I lived like a mushroom in three rooms of my home, could not drive and could not ride in a car as a passenger for very long either. I could not go to church (which is very important to me and my Pastor has been coming to me). Now I can go back to church! We actually just took a vacation too!

If you do not have a resperatory problem, I would suggest asking your doctor about this combination to help you.

Wishing you all the best, and given the date of your post I do hope you have already found the right meds for you! God Bless and hang in there!
Best regards, Geri

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yes they do i been on them for a min now and they work just like the iv but it takes longer to feel it

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I guess you are not on Buprenorphine then are you? If you were you'd understand the concern. THey should switch to a short acting opiod instead, Bup INHIBITS any pain med by attaching to your mu receptors and doesn't let any other pain med attach, hence no pain relief...Reap what you sew? not a nice think to say to people you don't know.

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Will anyone ever learn the simple difference between "milligrams= mg" and "micrograms=mcg" (usually a 'µ' on computer bc not even computers are nerdy enough for science, but we adapt. So people, hope this helps.

MICRO = 1x10^-6 = 10^-6 = 0.000006 = small (ten times ten to the negative sixth power!) holy hell. small number, but there are number milllions and millions more small!

That's my rant about decimals, fentanyl is given in micrograms cuz it's stronger than everything else. 75mg/hr, would in fact, make you puke more than age 21 and the night you turned it. Just sayin jo. Peace out I am jealous of u all Plllllease throw me a bone and maybe we can be pen pells???? I tell stories about all my goodies and i'm honest and easy to work with. And I am 9999% more normal than that.

Bye All tty soon, feel BETTer!

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I agree. I have been on Methadone for 6 yrs now and I'm @ 160 Mgs and it's working perfect for me. Been @ 160 for over a year and a half. Broke my back in 4 places. My back is destroyed and will need surgery @ some point. Also found out I have degenerative disc disease. Horrible, horrible, God awful pain at times. This is not perfect but the other opioids were killing me. Destroying my life. This is the best I can hope for, however, it could be so much worse.

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Are you serious? Is that what pain meds do? Mask it you say? Hmmmm.....

Holier than thou crap! Good for absolutely nothing, just like your post.

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Can I take dilaudid then a couple hours later take Subutex? Will it put me in w/d? I take 2 8mg of dilaudid 5 times a day. I am prescribed that and want to stop so can I take subutex right away?

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I've been in dauladid almost a yr. after my accident when I almost lost my right leg fr. The knee down,I had seven fractures fr. Knee to ankle And THen. The. Muscles & tendents were all moved from the outside of my calf to front of. My lower leg.From under my knee to a few inches above my ankle,the big problem is its my driving leg.I was on fentenyl taffy,THAT. Worked great but because the only test done were cancer patients after being controlled the taffys for 5 yrs ,my insurance Co.decides to stop my taffys THAT I can control &put me a pill THAT I had. To stop &take a pill &wait for it to work! !befor Horan taffy all I had to do was open & rub in my cheek.NOT RIGHT AFTER 5 YRS OF EASY PAIN CONTROL NOW I HAVE TO FIND A DRINK,TAKE A PILL & WAIT! !NOT RIGHT AFTER 5 YRS.OF PAINCONTROL

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MY DR PRESCRIBED EXALGO(HYDROMORPHONE) 16 MG AND PERCOSET FOR BREAKTHROUGH PAIN-10/325 --2, 3 TIMES A DAY.
THESE MEDS TAKE THE EDGE OFF BUT, BY NO MEANS MAKES THE PAIN DISAPPEAR. I DON'T THINK THERE IS SUCH A DRUG.

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I had to go under anesthisia awhile ago for a colonoscopy i was also on subutrx, i stoped faking it 2 days before i went under, it sounds like hell but subutex has a half life i reallu didnt go through withdraels, i just WANTED it. But just make sure to tell ur doc AND anesthetic doctor that u do subutex, that way they kbow, thdy give u a stronger doae. I was knocked out so cold they culd hardly wake me up! No worrys, just be open witg ur docters, its private i am younger n didnt want my mother who was there with me to know, and so they asked her to step outside n stuff when talkin bout personal stuff, she had no idea just thought it was procedure.

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Yes I just had surgery for a shattered knee and broken pelvis in two spots I was on suboxone before it happened and dilaudid worked better than anything else I got it IV and after in pill form which I was sent home with. I think it works great it's just that they don't send u home with enough to last till u see the doc so now I may have to go back on my subs till I hear from them which sux bc of the pain but yes it worked wonders for me.

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I have had 3 back surgeries in 3 years. (two lumbar which is now completely fused, and a double fission on my cervical). I have been on 8-12mg of dilaudid for almost 3 years now and have had no side effects. Don't get me wrong, I want to come off if it as soon as possible, but since my last surgery was only in may, my Dr doesn't think its long enough for the pain I'm going to feel. He wants to wean me down to a drug called Norco which I was on after Mt 7th and 8th knee surgeries.

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The dauldid pills SUCK I got 2mg up to 8 x s a day and nothing getting it shot is nice no worries w subutex eithe

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She said subutex not suboxone, which are different. I am also curious, because i would like to get off my pain meds 100mg morphine sulfate 2 times a day and 4 mg dilaudid...Which i have severe pain and would like to get rid of the pain that comes from needing pain meds (addiction) and finally realize how much i need..It would be a help not to take pills because my body craves them..I don't get a good feeling from them any more . I take because of pain and addiction..If i were to go on both i could possibly get off...or get down to a much lesser dose.

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You got wait 36 hrs to fell anything after doing a sub

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