Difference Between Adderall And Amphetamine Salts (Page 33)
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I was recently diagnosed with Adult ADD and have been prescribed Amphetamine Salts (Generic for Adderall) for a few months now. The initial dosage was one 10mg tablet/ three times a day and recently my Doctor upped the dosage to one 30mg tablet/ twice a day. I know that overall this has been very beneficial for me but I cant help but wonder if the generic brand (IR Amphetamine Salts) has less of the active ingredient, and more unnecessary side effects(irritability, fatigue). I know that while the active ingredients are likely to be the same, the "fillers" usually are not and even the active ingredients can vary up to 10%. I also know that everybody reacts differently depending on their bodies' make-up as well as the drugs and I have always reacted sensitively to any kind of drug. The more I "google" the more I want to stay away from the generic form. Also- almost every pharmacy around has little to no Adderall Brand IR tablets in stock, they only have the generic brands and possibly Adderall brand but only the Extended-Release. My Doctor seems to firmly believe that there is no difference between Adderall XR and Adderall IR, and because she prescribed me the generic form (Amphetamine Salts), she probably doesn't see a difference there either. I don't have the time to ask 10 doctors what they think so if anyone has any information or experiences please share! Thank you!

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i just been prescribed the amp salts i understand its hard to get add been on it one day but feel a little more energy well we see let u no

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I was prescribed salts of amphetamine 6 months ago. Two 10mg pills per day to help me with my ADD. It has helped me in many ways but in some not so much. Before i took the generic version of aderall i weighed in at 215lbs I'm 5'10 i wore a size 38 waste and after 4 months of taking it as prescribed i am now in a size 29 waste and way 165lbs i lost 50 pounds within 4 months of taking the salts of amphetamine. Was just wondering if that is a normal side affect of this drug (decrease in appetite) ?? And also is there any difference between Salts of Amphetamine and the actual brand name Aderall as far as helping cope with ADD?? Does Aderall give better results??? Thank you!!

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Boss, how dare you question my religion? I actually am extremely religious and a very proud Christian. I wasn't attacking her, just trying to get her to see why she shouldn't jump to conclusions. You are attacking me. Stop. You have made yourself look like an ass, so just stop. This is about the difference between Adderall and the generic. I will not reply to anything else you have to say, so do me the same service.

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Who are you to play doctor. Yes margarites post was ill informed, she clearly does not understand what its like to live with a mental illness and the necessity of drugs like adderall which help people maintain normal lives, but f#! You for attacking her opinion and looking just as ignorant as her. Clearly your an atheist but you need to keep your opinion to yourself, this question is not about your beliefs. Obviously the person who asked this question would see margarites post as irrelevant being that they live with a mental disorder that requires them to take any drug and they know that it . Your post therefore is also irrelevant.

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And for Sam, I'm sorry you went threw that. It seems that your doctors really wanted money out of you, when all you might have needed was a different form of this pill. They didn't communicate with each other on your dosage, which could be terms for expulsion, and I would suggest to get all the information and bills/receipts and take those negligent doctors to court, but you mentioned that you self-medicated, so that wouldn't work at all. There is a very clear warning label on my bottle, as well as a long insert with my bag, and my doctor warned me in his office that I was to not take more than he told me is safe. You may want to seek out a better doctor who can find a good medium for you. Children are even suppose to take a break from this kind of pill during week ends, every holiday, and during winter and summer break just so they get a break to know how they feel when they are off of it, and so doctors can see if the dosage is right. So even as an adult, you need breaks. You got to sleep sometime, plus it would help you train your body and mind to be stronger on their own when you aren't on the pills. Either way, If you have ADD or ADHD, these pill can help you. You may not have it, but if you do, you know the suffering that comes with not having the pills help buffer the electricity in your brain to route the signals to the right places. Then again, you may be scared to try a pill that can help you. That takes time, but in the end, you either have ADD or you don't. You either suffer or you don't. You do need to get a different set of doctors though.

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The Butler, You are probably a friend of Margarita's, if not her yourself. You should go find a different forum to decorate with you fecal matter, Margarita did a good enough job on her own here. Please, if you must patrol this page, do so without leaving a response. We don't like Margarita's thoughts on this topic, so it's unnecessary to try to change our opinions of her. You can keep your opinions to yourself, this is a discussion for differences between two different legal pills, not the difference between street drugs or cocaine, neither is it a page to defend a person who proclaims that we are stupid because God made us that way. Sorry no, she can be stupid all she wants, and you can join her insolence, but please do so elsewhere.

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Hello everyone,
I'm a 30 year old woman who was diagnosed with ADD at the age of 8, because I simply was too bored in class due to having an IQ of 145. My mother wanted me to have a childhood, so she told the teachers to not move me up from first grade to eighth grade. My mother made a good choice, I actually had a lot of say in that conversation with her. I needed my thoughts to stop keeping me up for days at a time at that age. I wanted and needed to have a childhood that I was shafted for due to being smart. Ritalin made me black out and gain a LOT of weight that I could never get off(goodbye 90% of my self-esteem) and it wasn't what I needed. I had fights with my family, which ended in tears because of the bad side effects from that pill. It took the doctors years to figure out I needed a different kind on medication. Cylert was what worked for me, and it was the only other option at the time. I quit using Cylert at the age of 12, due to my teacher passing away. I thought maybe if I didn't take it, then the loss wouldn't hurt so much. Clearly, I was too young to realize I had made a mistake that would result in 18 years of hell. I have suffered Every Single Day since I had Cylert out of my system. Fighting with family, anxiety, phobias(I had to be homeschooled do to a few), OCD, dyslexia, my IQ suffered(never could grasp typing on a keyboard), and I lost every friend I ever made. I didn't get my G.E.D. until I was 25 years old, because I couldn't concentrate. I couldn't absorb knowledge like I did when I was younger(my GPA is too low for me to go back to college, which I suffered through), and time killed so much of my intelegence that I had problems with keeping any self-esteem I might have had left. I was dumped, cheated on, married and divorced (in less than 3 months), worked at so many jobs that I can't seem to get a job for going on 3 years now. I got lucky when I met a man who could keep up with my thought process, which is an utter mess at all times. He married me and loves me dearly. He stood up for me to my own mother for continuing to give me a hard time, even in adulthood. He gave me the best wedding gift, health insurance. Today is my first full day with this new medication, due to Cylert being discontinued for whatever reason. Either way, I'm using the immidiate release pill, and I've noticed that my nerves, anxiety, and fears have calmed down greatly. I've also noticed that I haven't really looked down at my hands much while writting this letter. So I hope this works out for me, if not I'll try a different pill.

As for Margarita, or whatever your name is (rude, judgmental chick with bad spelling), your are clearly a judgmental, close-minded, under-educated biggot. Everyone who comes to this page is already on this pill, they all know what it is used for, thus why it was perscribed to us all my a licenced doctor for treatment for our mutual issue. Our stories are mostly the same, the outcome will be different due to genetics and such. That is why we are here. Why are you here? It seems to me the only thing you have going on is you trying to get us all to admit to something we aren't guilty of, which is drug abuse of a substance most, if not all, of us need for us to feel, think, and function like everyone else who was lucky to not need to go through this anguish on a daily basis. We don't need to use more than what our doctors say we need, and it's not like it's hurting us. See, I don't know who else may have this problem with random things working backwards or not, I.E. Coffee makes me sleep, energy pills made me sluggish, diet pills made me gain weight, and pickles make me hyper. If anyone else has those strange side effects, let me know, but if you take that example into mind, Margarita, you'll see that sometimes peoples bodies work differently. This medication can cause a person without ADD or anything else to get hyper, but with us, it calms us down. It helps us think more rationally and logically. Don't just assume we are drugged up for the sake of getting messed up. None of the people on this page are using it for 'harmless fun'. Maybe you have in your life, but we aren't like you. Not in any way. So please, if you ever come back to this site and read my really long message, please turn around and walk out of this site. We don't require you to insert your misguided opinions into our lives, we are having enough trouble getting ourselves onto a more stress-free, sturdy mindset.

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I went to rehab last year for this drug. Amphetamines. It's ineffable this chemical's potential ability to COMPLETELY rule your life. It completely blows my mind how easily a GP will write a script for "Adderall" (3 amphetamines mixed together, one of them being METHamphetamine) and there be almost zero dialogue concerning the abuse potential, the SERIOUS abuse potential, and how some people can take it their whole lives in a tiny 20mg dose, like its a multi-vitamin, while others can take it once and feel so "happy" about feeling "normal" like I did, that it is worth the sacrificing of every value, resepct of self, loved ones and family, to make sure you will never go without having that pill.
Long story short: started with mixed amps 20mg, Dr. upped it to 40mg, then another pyschiatrist upped it to 60 and saying even 75mg would be worth a try, then I was self-dosing at 90 and staying up for a whole day, then 120mgs, then two days, then 250mgs, with 100mg being the lowest I could intake daily without everything physically and mentally crumbling. Started making a tea out of certain "household" items because I knew the mixture was equivalent to L-Methamphetamine. Started constantly being in a state of hallucinations (even sober or dry) and psychosis, creatures and demons would follow me around my house. I broke everything in my life for it. Obsession/addiction started Jan. 2011. I went and got clean June 2012. Still fighting it.

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I have a 13year old stepdaughter that has been on amphetamine salts for a few years. She takes this 20mg each day, 1 70 mg capsule of vyvanse , 900mg of oxcarbazepine a day, and .2mg of clonidine at night. She just came back to live with us and refuses to take any medications. I need to know the dangers of her just stopping these medications.

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Margarita, you need to do a little bit more research before you open your mouth. Adderall is prescribed by doctors to treat ADHD. It is low dosage and closely monitored. I have been taking the generic amphetamine salts for years without having the desire to go on to more addictive drugs like methamphetamine or cocaine. In fact, when I started taking Adderall I quit drinking and smoking. I just didn't want to anymore.

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being smart or not has nothing to do with the need to take this medicine, my son has been having alot of behavioral problems and now that he is on a low dose adderall he has improved tremendously, its all about the chemical balance not about brain smarts! This medicine has been known to help thousands of people, yes some people do choose to abuse it and thats their choice but for the responsible ones out there who just want to be able to stay focused this medicine truely helps.

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just because you have ADD or ADHD does not mean that you are stupid or dumb in fact usually people with this are extremely intelligent one of the reasons why you end up with ADHD or ADD because of the way your brain works.

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the new generic is so awful it isnt worth getting. It is made by teva. They really do make a difference, yes.
I am so frustrated that I am going to switch to dexedrine as adderall is a major clusterf***.

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Margarita, has a point, people. I am astonished at the lack of propriety some posters show. ("Lack of propriety" means "the absence of manners", a clearly foreign concept to some on this site, I see). Take responsibility for yourselves, or suffer the consequences of handing over that task to the pharmaceuticals. Ointments, potions, pills, whatever you use, will only act as a crutch. In the end it is still up to you. Read "Your Owner's Manual" for more info.

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Nope, nothing to suggest. I have decided to use the short acting form regularly. When I don't take it, I am in a neuro fog, can't think or act. Love the focus w the med. No side effects so far, exc an increase in my BP that we are tracking.
I just use it twice a day, in the morning, sometime between 8 and 10, and afternoon, between 4 and 6.

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ADDme, that's how I use it just for work not on the weekends but my doctor is freaking out about it and can't comprehend why I wouldn't take it every day but the side effects for me are much less I'm able to eat and sleep on the weekend. M y doctor almost wouldn't prescribe it to me. Got any ideas

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AADme, that's how I use it just for work not on the weekends but my doctor is freaking out about it and can't comprehend why I wouldn't take it every day but the side effects for me are much less I'm able to eat and sleep on the weekend. M y doctor almost wouldn't prescribe it to me. Got any ideas

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CRB, well said

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Well, I've been taking 15 mgs of the amphetamine salts (insurance won't cover the brand Adderall) and to be honest, I don't feel any different. In fact, the vivarin still works better for me. My doctor even suggested I try 20 mgs. and still.......... vivarin works better. Interesting, huh? Any thoughts from anyone?

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Margarita, I am astounded that you are so ignorant to assume that people would take adderall are both stupid and addicts. I am offended by your comments on here regarding the issue. I was looking for guidance on the medication I'm taking not to be insulted by your rude stupidity. You may speak from your own experience but that does not apply to everyone. It is not like taking cocaine, in fact I tried that in my early years, so yes I speak from experience.

It has taken me many years to be diagnosed correctly, and to find treatment that helps me with my symptoms. I finally have my life back on track, and I am able to focus on my goals, complete tasks, and become organized. I am back in school, in fact I got an A in both organic chemistry and anatomy that my adviser told me would be too difficult to accomplish. Well I did well in them, despite the fact that I have ADHD. It took 30 years to figure out why I am the way I am, and if there is a medication that can give me the same opportunities as everyone else, then so be it. ADHD has nothing to do with being less intelligent, as my IQ is actually above average. I'm not bragging I'm just trying to illustrate that perhaps you should do some research on topics you are not familiar with prior to giving advice to others.

It is people like you that give mental illness a bad name. It is just like any other medical ailment. It requires treatment, usually involving pharmaceuticals. So before you go lashing out at the community with your unprofessional advice, I suggest you should possibly go resume your weekly NA meetings.

Thank you.

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