Difference Between Adderall And Amphetamine Salts (Page 12)
UpdatedI was recently diagnosed with Adult ADD and have been prescribed Amphetamine Salts (Generic for Adderall) for a few months now. The initial dosage was one 10mg tablet/ three times a day and recently my Doctor upped the dosage to one 30mg tablet/ twice a day. I know that overall this has been very beneficial for me but I cant help but wonder if the generic brand (IR Amphetamine Salts) has less of the active ingredient, and more unnecessary side effects(irritability, fatigue). I know that while the active ingredients are likely to be the same, the "fillers" usually are not and even the active ingredients can vary up to 10%. I also know that everybody reacts differently depending on their bodies' make-up as well as the drugs and I have always reacted sensitively to any kind of drug. The more I "google" the more I want to stay away from the generic form. Also- almost every pharmacy around has little to no Adderall Brand IR tablets in stock, they only have the generic brands and possibly Adderall brand but only the Extended-Release. My Doctor seems to firmly believe that there is no difference between Adderall XR and Adderall IR, and because she prescribed me the generic form (Amphetamine Salts), she probably doesn't see a difference there either. I don't have the time to ask 10 doctors what they think so if anyone has any information or experiences please share! Thank you!
No, you don't know what you are talking about. Seriously.
You can always ask your pharmacist.
Ok you bunch of lunatics. (JOKING, just JOKING) It's Auntie Rose. I have 51 neices and nephews, just from my four sisters and three brothers, and a couple of their children having more children (only two generations.) A few of them take Adderall, so I asked them if they actually felt better taking this drug. A few said yes, A couple said they weren't really sure, and one of them just stopped taking it. Watching and listening to two of them, probably two of the smarter ones, I've noticed a very big difference in them (for the better.) Anyway, I have a twenty-four year old daughter who just got her Bachelor's degree. She really struggled those four years. I wish I had thought of this Adderall before she started college, because I know it would have helped her. Believe it or not, her pediatrician gave it to her immediately after she and I filled out a questionaire. Yes, shes till sees her pediatrician for, mostly for physicals only because she's never sick. From the very first day she took it, I noticed a difference. This is no joke. She got out of work at 11:00 pm and was talking to me. I noticed the way she all of a sudden seemed so assertive and sure of herself. Unfortunately, she only took it about six times, not consecutively. I keep begging her to stay on it at least a week straight. She said she'll try. I don't want to push drugs on any of my four children, but I saw such a difference in her when she was on the Adderall, that I can't help but want her to take it. If she doesn't want it after a week, by all means, I will never ask her to take anything again. I brought all my children up drug-free, not even giving them Advil, etc. The only time they ever got even Tylenol is if they had a fever, because my oldest boy, who is now almost forty years old went into seizures when he was approx. two yrs. old, because of a high fever I learned my lesson then. Anyway, keep writing. STOP arguing with each other on this site!!!! Now I know where I can go when I can't sleep.
Your doctor is full of crap. 20mg is not the highest dose. I just filled a Rx for 30mg yesterday. Also, your doctor seems to not know anything about drug interactions and I suggest you get a new doctor stat. Not only did he screw up with your daughter and lie to you about adderall, but he lied about not being able to treat both ADHD and anxiety. I take adderall (well, haven't yet, but about to..I had to switch from vyvanse because I don't have insurance and generic adderall was only $18) for ADHD and also Ativan for anxiety and they mix and work just fine. Your doctor is an i****.
i have just recently started taking Amphetamine to stay awake. For years i have been really tired and when waking up i feel like i never slept at all. so i had a sleep test and the doc says i have severe sleep apnea. i am not excessively over weight maybe 15 pounds. after i started using the cpap machine i was still exhausted after waking up so the doc says that sleep apnea will kill the part of the brain that wakes us up and keeps us awake. so he prescribed amphetamine 10mg but try 1/2 pill, if that does nothing go to one whole etc.. up to 2 pills but absolutely never take more than 2 or i would get extremely sick. well 2 pills did nothing so my last visit on friday with the doc he prescribed me 20mg and to take 2 or 3 each morning. i took 2 and stayed awake during church. so i was wondering if anyone else was taking this to stay awake and if it helps them at all. i have started looking at hyperparathyroidism because they suffer from exhaustion as well. does anyone have any experience that i could use? thanks Rico
I agree with you. I have ADD as well. I started taking Adderall XR and see a big difference in how I am able to do my work. I am able to sit at my desk and concentrate on my work. Prior to Adderrall I was all over trying to complete my work and just leaving it. I can tell when the medication kicks in my body I get a funny feeling. But as the day goes on I get my job done. So it works for me
You speak with great certainty about a subject that is not well understood, even by the best academic researchers. The amount of amphetamine in ADHD drugs is so small that researchers aren't sure why the drugs work at all.
Psych meds, including ADHD drugs, are at a primitive stage of development. The optimistic estimate is that 70% of patients report improvement. We don't know why that is either. Some people have extreme side effects, some people have very mild side effects.
Yet, in large studies, only those who take ADHD meds have shown demonstrable improvement.
In summary, regarding these meds, no one "knows of what they speak" at this time. I recommend humility to you regarding same.
Oh boy...it is ignorant people like Margarita who make it so difficult for Special Educators like myself to advocate for my students who truly need medication to live happy fruitful lives. If only she could spend time in a classroom watching how these really intelligent students struggle to sit still and can describe feeling like they can't stop their minds from bouncing all over the place, but so want to not be get in trouble for disrupting a class or feel like they are sticking out. It has very little to do with intelligence level and a whole lot to do with knowing you feel different or off and wanting to be able to function like everyone else around you. Often, there are feelings of anxiety that exacerbate the attention issues as well and these drugs help control and treat both. In many cases, because these drugs can work well in controlling impulses and regulating a child's inner engine, it allows the child to learn how to both cope with and compensate for their disability, thus making them in some cases, not need as much of the drug over time and learn how to function successfully in all environments with or without the drug. People need to be educated about ADHD/ADD and know that in certain cases, needing a medication to manage their condition is no different than if your child needed insulin to control blood sugar! I can honestly say that I have seen both sides of ADHD and medication both professionally and personally. My older sister was an undiagnosed person with ADHD and because she never received educational or medical intervention, she has had struggles throughout her adult life in arenas where someone without ADHD would typically have few to none. She has had difficulty making and maintaining friendships, meeting a man and marrying, holding a stable job and being a mother. Without me in her life to help her through these times, the world was pretty cruel! Could someone like Margarita imagine the guilt a 40yo with ADHD feels when they forget to feed their child? Or feel paralyzed by the regular day to day stresses of their life? This was my sister undiagnosed and unmedicated, despite her 130IQ! I wonder how you would feel if you had a wealth of knowledge and capability that you just could not access without help. What a frustrating feeling that must be...my heart goes out to those of you who turn to this forum for support and instead are met with ignorant judgment!
Sorry kiddo, although some of your points are correct you are for the most part overgeneralizing the use of Adderall. If you couldn't tell by the over 600 dislikes of your comment let me spell it out for you. Doctors do not prescribe Adderall to people who are stupid. It can be used for people that deal with lethargic episodes or are wired differently then other people where they find it hard to finish tasks and projects. Taken on demand, which is the way Xanax is supposed to be taken, it is perfectly safe for people who suffer from panic attacks and social anxiety, although a longer-term fix is always advised. You obviously know nothing of what you talk about and are looking at it from a very narrow point of view. I suggest talking to people who have had success with these drugs and perhaps you'll have a better understanding of things you claim to know about.
Omg! I just read that jerks post to you! He's the Freaking i****, if you looked up any other boards even other areas of this one. IT'S Not in your head or your imagination. Some generics suck!
I have taken Adderall. They haven't ruined my life. You just are scared that's all. I dont codone it but I know what I'm talking about kido ;)
YOUR, "ITS ONLY USEFUL FOR NARCOLEPTICS "statement is obviously opinionated. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT NOOTROPIC/SMART DRUGS LIKE ON THE MOVIE LIMITLESS ARE DEFINED AS BUT AS AN ANGRY ADDERAL PATIENT YOU ARE SO CORRECT AND BIG PHARMA IS SCREWEING US.ALL PARENTS AND ALL PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER FIRST TRY ADDERAL/COKE MIXED WITH METHAMPHETAMINE. GODFATHERS OF ADD AND DRS THAT COINED THE TERM AND SYMPTOMS ARE ALL ADMITTING IT NOW. ALWAYS FIRST TAKE EVERY DIAGNOSTIC OTHER THAN ADHD QUESTIONNAIRE EXAMS, ALERGY, BLOOD, HORMONE ETC...YOU ARE TOO DRAMATIC BUT THIS S***S KILLING EVERYONE. FIRST PEOPLE NEED TO TRY SAFER NOOTROPICS /VITAMINS/DIET/SMART DRUGS ETC....
OK I searched "if there is a difference between brand name and generic" bc I AM ADD and it messes with me so much that yes after 12 years of being off the medication I made the decision to try it again bc it's difficult. I read this and can't believe there are people in the world that believe that people with ADD are "stupid". Your not ADD and don't understand what it is like. In fact people who are ADD are among some of the smartest with higher IQ's than the average person. People proven to had ADD
1. JFK 2. Walt Disney 3. ALBERT EINSTEIN!!!
Look it up and try to understand the brain of person with ADD. We actually are distracted very easily and become forgetful of our short term memories. BUT we also have better long term memories and we start to focus in a much stronger manner called "hyper focus". Which means when our interest is piqued we will go into studying information on a subjects for not minutes but hours and sometimes days. Google is great but the moment I'm curious about something I have to Google it like an OCD person has to organize. Which is probably why Mr. Einstein developed the theory of relativity, he couldn't stop until it made sense.
SO to end my rant... before you ever throw around the word "stupid" or any word close in relation to that word, you should really think who your calling "stupid" bc I'm pretty freaking sure the people I listed amongst thousands more would disagree. Who would be ignorant enough to disagree with a guy who helped develop the atomic bomb... I mean really who? Watch your words and educate yourself. I'm a teacher in a community college, and I teach cosmetology. I hear all the time how we aren't smart but let me give you some knowledge. The muscle around your mouth that is used for kissing is called the orbicularis oris, the muscle in your rear end that you sit on is called the gluteus maximus. SO using YOUR orbicularis oris kiss MY gluteus maximus.
OBVUOUSLY I'm ADD but I would rather be that and smarter than to be as ignorant as the people who insult us for being born this way. Learn something new everyday and watch your words darling.
Stop being an ass, adderall is not methamphetamine or coke. Because someone has ADHD doesnt mean they're stupid it means they have trouble focussing. Adderal should be taken seriously and with constraint but don't be confused..it helps millions of kids everyday. Trust me kido I actually think before I type
Margarita, Let me first start off by saying that ADD/ADHD has absolutely nothing to do with whether you are smart or dumb. It is by no means an intelligency issue so when you say it is the way God made you, yes a person is the way they are because they were born that way but it's also because of doctors that the people are helped everyday and God made those people just like he made everyone else in this world! Ithe seems like to me you are the ignorant one here
I found the generic XR capsule for Adderall made me weepy and depressed. The brand name capsule had me functioning fine. I hate that insurance dictates what a patient can take! I finally switched to the tablets and take it a 9 am and again at 3:30 pm. Without it I can't focus, will sleep a lot and not remember anything,
I have ADD and my IQ tests at the "genius" level. Keep your stupid comments to yourself, because the only truly ignorant statements being made here, are by you. Also, pull your self-righteous head out of your rear, because amphetamines are VERY DIFFERENT than speed, which is a METHAMPHETAMINE; there's no drano in amphetamines. I do love when people come to these threads with their pedestals and their bibles, acting in the least civil and Christian ways any one human being possibly could, by insulting the crap out of anyone who doesn't live AND SIN exactly as they do. For your sake, I hope I'm right and there is no God, because if there is; you're as doomed as the rest of us, Ms. Holier Than Thou.
I like to start by saying thanks for all the shared experience. I am 49 and have had add my whole life. I struggled through school as a child. when the joke " I make coffee nervous" or do I ever slow down. Or my thoughts are all over the place. I realized it's time to try medication. So today I tried it. I'm on the generic form and felt ok. not certain if it will help. Im happy for all who share on this site as I'm up at 5 am (think I took Secound pill to late) I watch a documentary on adhd on the public tv station PBS. It was me all the way! I just hate medication and avoided treatment. However my love ones are happy for me. So I will see how this goes. I like to just comment on the statement made by one writer here in regards to there comment there is no God. My heart feels sad for you as to think there is no God I would not have handled the hard bumps in life. I thank God for getting me through everyday??. Thanks for letting me share
What the heck does you being a coke head even have to do with this? If you TRULY believe prescription amphetamines can be legitimately compared to street drugs, please, stop making your stupidity available to the public as "information".
Personally, I like the Amphetamine Salts better. I seem to be having uncomfortable side effects with the Amphetamine IR. It's interrupting my sleep, and making me hyper. Anyone else?
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