Did They Stop Making The Roxane 54 411 Buprenorphine? (Page 5) (Top voted first)
UpdatedI have been getting the generic Subutex Roxane brand 54 411 Buprenorphine tablets for months now from Walmart pharmacy and the past two times I've gotten my prescription filled there, I was given a different generic made by Hi Tech with an 8 and an arrow. I asked them why the change because those little tablets just are not the same and they said the Roxane ones could not be ordered. I called around to other pharmacies I have gotten my prescription filled at before also and was also told that the Mylan M 924s can no longer be ordered either. What's going on with the Roxane and Mylan Buprenorphine tablets? Did they stop making them or is there some kind of shortage? I had the choice of getting the small Hi Tech tablets which seem alot less potent than the Roxane or the Actavis 153 half moon orange tablets which I cannot stand at all. Has anyone else had a problem getting the Roxanes or the Mylans or know for sure what's happening? I did see that Roxane merged with West Ward but don't know if that has anything to do with it or when the merge occurred and the 54 411 tablets are still listed on the West Ward site as a medication they manufacturer. I've heard everything from they are not making either of the brands anymore to there is just a temporary shortage of the brands.
No they did not stop making the 54 411 white round subutex. I get them every month. if ur pharmacy says they're on back order or they quit making them, it is not true. Tell them to call the company bc i can get them filled any time i want. I get those and orange football shaped ones with half moons on front and 153 on back all the time. I like the white 54 411 better because they seem stronger.
Re: Tylor (# 34)
What pharmacy do you use? We use CVS and they give us a hard time every time we go in....they will not order the Roxanne/Westward 54 411's for us....they only get the Sun labs or the stupid Hi Techs.
Re: Mica (# 38)
Pharmaca pharmacy, they have the best in my experience. Westward/Hikma 54 411 white round tablet. They are online to find one.
Re: Jeff (# 8)
What pharmacy are you now using?
Re: Ken lips from sac (# 35)
The 54,411s are Roxanne /westward/hikma..as of now what your getting is hikma. Inactive ingredients have been changed slightly . To me it's a chalky and at the end it gets kinda gritty..but the main ingredient of buprenorphine will always be there
Re: Davidjw1 (# 39)
Last time i went to CVS they gave me the Rhodes brand which i think were ok. Better than the Suns or Hi Techs. Not sure if my MediCal will cover my meds filling a prescription for them online like that though. Do you know if they cover it or do you pay out of pocket?
Re: Mica (# 42)
I pay out of pocket. CVS gave you Rhodes? A White tablet, shiny imprinted with RP on one, side b8 on the other. You sure ? CVS has always given Mylan 924, Sun 460 or Westward Hikma 54 411 tablets and Hi tech little bitty ones with an arrow. . If so that's a miracle. CVS uses Mc Kesson or Ameri Source and Cardinal is the only distributor I know that supplies Rhodes RP/b8 tablets. I have never heard of CVS filling Rhodes brand generic Buprenorphine. But there's always a first.
Re: Davidjw1 (# 43)
I'm the same my jaw dropped did you find out if she really got Rhodes from a CVS I know for sure not here in Florida will you find Rhodes at any CVS the all had sun last I checked and that was not long ago. It would surprise me because it's a chain store which means they all just about order the same as each other
Re: AWV304 (# 2)
Westward is making the 54 411 tablets. Also, something that was very interesting to me was I had my last prescription filled by HIKMA manufacturer, and they looked exactly like the Roxanne white tablets also with 54 411 imprint on the tablets... sooo confusing, I know. But I hope my input helps a little.
Re: Eric (# 45)
Eric, Hikma purchased Westward earlier this year. They are one in the same. You have a good product.
I was in the same boat as you. But fortunately, I did find out who makes the 54 411 White Round Sublingual Tablet. I just had my script filled three days ago. It was three months ago when I could no longer get the same manufacturer that I was on for the duration of my treatment. At first, they were for addiction/chronic pain. I’ve been trying to get off pain medication for years and still battle with pain, and it was just my luck, when I decided to wean off of Subutex, I couldn’t find my brand anywhere. It took awhile (I was taking the Mylan brand) but I found the Roxanne to be the best substitute not only for pain, but for the side-effects caused by the Hi-Tech, ESPECIALLY- Activas (those were the worst). And Sun Brand is also a decent one. But you have to find WestWard Manufacturer. Also under the name of Hikma. When I called the pharmacy, they told me that the could only get WestWard. I said fine, because I am trying to wean off these anyway. When I picked up the script, the bottle says Hikma Mfr. So I’m guessing Hikma is the old Roxanne formula, 54 411. Hope that helps you. Also, I live on the west coast. So I’m not sure how hard you’d have to look for your distributor, but either ask for WestWard, or Hikma
Re: Daveyjones (# 20)
Hey there, I've been taking the 54 411s for like 3 years now. Tonight the pharmacist switched me brands without saying anything and wouldn't take them back even though I didn't leave the pharmacy. He gave me the Rhodes ones. Same as you got I think. They have the RP b8 on them. I'm super hesitant to take these as I've tried other generics in the past and they were NOT the same. Should I try these or contact my doctor and ask for a different prescription? Like I said, I'm hesitant to switch because I know how I feel on the 54 411s...I just don't want to feel any different. Should I bite the bullet and try them and see? Or should I try my doctor and see if I can get a new prescription? Did you feel any different at all? Do you like them more or less? Thanks in advance.
Re: Nicholi2789 (# 48)
You will like them better. They're by far the strongest generic buperenorphine.
Re: Davidjw1 (# 49)
Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I don't know why I'm so hesitant to change it up. I was furious with the pharmacist for changing the brand and not telling me. But he wouldn't take them back even though I didn't even leave. What makes you say they are the strongest generic?
Re: Nicholi2789 (# 50)
Yah ur wellcome and idk wat it is about those small subutex. I have to take double the dosage of the bigger ones. I even gotta take double the dosage of the white ones just to compare to the orange moons. The 54 411 ones are way better. Just bc I feel like the white ones got more cut in them but there's no shortage on them. It's like this, for me I go to walgreens to get my xanax bars and u can only seem to get the yellow ones. I've asked and asked for white bars, green bars, but they will only give me the yellow r039 bars. It's bc that pharmacy is linked into the name brand company that makes the yellow bars. That's probably wat ur pharmacy did. I refuse the little white subutex. If they aint orange or big white ones I wont take them bc they're a waste for some reason. I know they say they're same mg but they def dont seem like it.
Re: Nicholi2789 (# 50)
They last longer, dissolve faster and the overall effect for me is mood elevating and somewhat relaxing. This medicine saved my life. It makes me feel normal again. I've tried all the generic Buprenorphine and this for me and many others is the best. Westward Hikma was the best before I was able to find a Pharmacy to order them for me here in California. Everyone is different. I take 32 mg a day so.... Everyone is different. Try them for a couple days. If you don't like them. Tell your doctor and get a new script and call around to find the Westward 54 411. Be well.
They still are around! I get them every two weeks. Got them about a week ago at CVS like always
Re: Nicholi2789 (# 48)
Hikma Mfr, makes the 54 111 subs. Roxanne was bought out by WestWard and they distribute them under the manufacturer name of Hikma. I just got mine last week and they are the same strength and effects of when Roxanne was still in business. And no matter what your pharmacist tells you, he/she can probably order them. They are the cheapest of all generic Subutex and that’s what a pharmacy will order- the cheapest ones. So ask for WestWard (that’s what they told me they could get) but on my bottle it says Hikma. Weird.. but they are 54 411 and same strength as always. Peace!
Re: davidjw1 (# 46)
Thank you. Yes I know that. I was just trying to tell everyone that the 54 411’s can be found. Thanks bud!
Re: Scotty (# 56)
Thank you for clearing that up. I was stressing having to switch to any other brands and I don't take change easily. Again, thank you so much
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