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In January 2013 - I recently purchased a subscription to the Health Sciences Institute (HSI) newsletter and got the book "Miracles from the Vault." I scoured the pages to find DBX-13 which they advertised as the diabetes miracle cure, and couldn't find it anywhere. I called HSI, and after three attempts and by threatening to take them to court for false advertising, a response finally came by email. DBX-13 is called X-Cravings. But get this... it is no longer being manufactured. X-Cravings appears to be a formula to help you stop craving food... a diet product... and I guess they apparently felt this would help you lose weight which would help your diabetes. I placed a call to the manufacturer of X-Cravings, Nutricology. Tel: (800)545-9960 who claims they don't know that X-Cravings was called DBX-13 by HSI, and they said they discontinued X-Cravings last year (2013). They also don't have a replacement product for it either. I hate when companies like HSI scam you by offering you hope that doesn't exist, which is why I am posting this information.

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Bitter melon and cinnamon are very effective in lowering blood sugar. Works for me.

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Thank you for this info re: DBX 13. I was going to order the book!

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get off the Metformin a.s.a.p. It has been proved by a US University that Metfomin in the long term causes Pernicious Anaemia. I found that out when I was started on B12 injections every 3 months!

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I AM A DIABETIC 2,i have been reading up on some of the comments,and for six weeks now i have just stopped taking Metformin 500mg 4 tablets,i have started doing 2 mile a day walking,plus normal things around the house DIY ,that is all i am doing i will be going back to my diabetic nurse in two weeks time,to see what she has to say,i have always told my doctor i do not want to be on tablets,but i have decided to do this my way,i know about the warnings of amputations,and blindness,etc,but needed to try this my way,i was fed up with all the side effects,and seven tablets a day,which used to be twelve,now no side effects,so if things go my way i will try one lot of tablets at a time to find out which are causing the side effects

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I am a diabetic for 25 years and has been on almost all diabetic medications; i.e. Metformin (2000mg), Glipizide, Actos, Januvia, Jardiance, Lantus Injection, and other tablets over the years which I can't recall, but the latest I was taking were Metformin (2000mg/day), Glipizide, Januvia, and Jardiance, which I stopped taking and replaced them with Phase 2 (carbo blocker) and cinnamon capsules. My blood sugar before was uncontrollable, which led to my having the stroke in 2008. Last month I stumbled on an internet infomercial just like the one some of you are talking in this chat-line and mentioning about the Phase 2 and Cinnamon, which made me start my new regimen without consulting my doctor. At this point my blood sugar is very much under control, a happening I have never seen in my 25 years of suffering this diabetes. I thank the Good Lord for this relief and I am a happy camper.

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There is a book called, "There is a Cure for Diabetes" (a 21 day+ program ) by Dr. Gabriel Cousens, MD. He runs the Tree of Life in Patagonia, Arizona. One can go down there and be cured of Diabetes by him and his staff. I bought the book just in case I might need it some day. I highly recommend all diabetics at least buy his book. It might save your life as the information is priceless.

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I watched the HSI infomercial online then began reading reviews. Some people call it a scam and other's say its legit. I'm always skeptical, so i decided to do some quick research on a product (Palm Vitee) a reviewer said he couldn't find for sale nor find any information online.

Well, I easily found Palm Vitee for sale online - 60 capsules for $75. More importantly, I researched clinical studies; by the way, when I began my research, I didn't even know what Palm Vitee was or its purported health benefits. However, I did find several abstracts from studies done by the US National Library of Medicine and the National Institutes of Health (i.e., ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2012010).

According to the abstract, after a double-blind, crossover, 8-wk study was conducted: "There was a carry over effect of palmvitee. Serum cholesterol concentrations of seven hypercholesterolemic subjects (greater than 7.84 mmol/L) decreased 31% during a 4-wk period in which they were given 200 mg gamma-tocotrienol/d. This indicates that gamma-tocotrienol may be the most potent cholesterol inhibitor in palmvitee capsules. The results of this pilot study are very encouraging." In sum, I am encouraged by my findings! If, in fact, this is product is listed in the book as a remedy to lower cholesterol... then it appears to be valid and supported by clinical trials. That's good enough for me to at least get my hands on this book to conduct more research and see what else it has to offer. I have no skin in the game here; this is not a fictitious review and there is no conspiracy. I just have a lot of medical issues (diabetes, high cholesterol, etc.) and I was intrigued by the video.

I hate taking a ton of meds and the unwanted side effects. Although I must agree with other reviews that the infomercial was way too long and they were obviously going to try and sell me something. But like I said, despite being skeptical, I'm glad I started reading reviews and decided to do some of my own research. I hope the references (URL's) I included are helpful and can help speed up research for anyone else looking to do the same.

BTW, I did a really quick search on DBX-13, H-86, nitric oxide, policosanol, lion's mane mushroom, zizyphus before submitting this post... and found a ton of information and products for sale. I really don't think its a scam! I just think its important to use the information HSI provides to get you started in the right direction (naturopathically) then educate yourself and do some WORK on your own.

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If you haven't found the DBX-13 it is because you can only find it by the name Syntra5. It costs like $119.74 (buy 2 Get 1 Free) and it has 180 capsules. I started taking it and it is true, it lowers your blood sugars from the first pill you take and it keep your sugar level within the normal range like 103. If you have diabetes please try it. It works. Lluvia from WA

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Hey Steviegirl! While I agree with those who said that this is a place for people to share their experiences and information (whether the info is accurate or not is always debatable!), I also agree that not using any punctuation makes it extremely difficult to figure out what the person who is writing in this manner is trying to say. I've seen this phenomenon on other threads also. I wish these folks could understand that when some of us ask for at least SOME punctuation, it's not so much that we're criticizing or trying to treat the site as a place for English lessons. It's really a compliment, essentially letting these these writers know that we'd really like to understand what they have to say but the punctuation-free writing style makes it difficult to benefit from their contribution. Something to think about? Thanks!

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I have been using syntra 5 for blood sugar control for about a month. It was recommended by HSI. It has not dropped my numbers at all, not a single point. Okra does drop my points but I found that on another diabetes site. They can't sell Okra.

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Well, I do have a friend who started working with Medifast . . . she lost over a hundred pounds and her doctor removed her subcutaneous insulin pump. Infact she is off insulin completely. I myself lost a total of 70 lbs and went off BP meds. And it is a logical and natural process of limiting intake and getting the right nutrition. My first week I lost 10 lbs, and 5 lbs every week after . . . the program is each day you need to ahve five 100 calorie snacks every three hours and then one "Lean and green meal . . . 5 oz. of protein (meat or fish) and a big salad - and vegetables

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Regarding HSI, I'm afraid it's the same old sales pitch as so many of these 'health', alternative, and self-help sites use. 'Watch this video now'....... Interminable, repetitive, patronizing, instilling fear of imminent death....'in just a moment I will tell you what this miracle cure actually is but first let me tell you about....' etc etc. Then comes the hook, and you know that the sales pitch is coming - 'buy now 50% discount until tomorrow'... It's exhausting and time-consuming. We just need the facts so that we can make up our own minds. Best to research everything as thoroughly as possible.

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Thank You I got scammed by HSI and have been waiting for DBX13, but once again it is just another B***S*** company ripping people off. I am done with them.

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I GOT THE SAME EMAIL AND THIS BOOK ADVERTISED AS FREE IS A BUNCH OF BULL , ANYONE WHO MAKES CLAIMS LIKE THIS ARE USUALLY SCAM ARTIST HOWEVER EASTERN CURES ARE GOOD BUT TO FIND THEN JUST GOOGLE AN EASTERN CHINESE CURE FOR YOUR AILMENT BE SURE TO CHECK WITH YOUR DR. BEFORE YOU START ANY SUPPLEMENT OR TEA - BE WELL AMERICA AND GOD BLESS I BELIEVE THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE TO WESTERN MEDICINE -- JUST PROCEED WITH CAUTION

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Thank you so much! I've got HSI's video playing in another window as I type this, and its director, Jenny Thompson, is harping on DBX-13 right now. I'm saving however much money her "Miracles from the Vault" would cost me, plus shipping and handling and I owe it all to you for reporting your experience here. I hope you get some satisfaction in any legal or consumer actions you pursue because of your purchase of the book.

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Health Sciences Institute is listed as a questionable organization on quackwatch. Also, I have marginal A1C around 6.0. I have experimented with all the ingredients listed in DBX-13 and found no significant difference after two to three months before blood work.
I do believe that there is some credibility to the lists of prescription drugs they accuse of horrible side effects, e.g. statins causing diabetes, loss of cognitive capacity in the brain and muscle damage and some drugs causing obesity, in short, side effects that often would make life less than worth living if they offered a longer lifespan. Still, that does not make HSI legitimate in what they offer. If you have blood pressure, cholesterol, or blood sugar that is a litter higher than it should be, a real exercise program and clean diet will make a difference without "miracle" herbs that (like turmeric, pepper, cinnamon) I have to admit taste wonderful in a recipe and are cheaper to buy in the grocery store.

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I purchased the book "Miracles from the Vault" about 2 years ago. I believe it should be renamed "The Snake Oil Bible". Everything in this book is sensationalized. It does not appear to have a lot of science behind it. HSI is in the business to make money. Keep that in mind. It also peddles false hope to many very sick people. It is like sick minded people giving false hope to very sick people.

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Thanks you very much for the information. I was ready to sign up for the book and pay the membership fee for one year. I saved $67.00.
I appreciate your great help

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I have found that when information is promised but they keep leading up to the information before giving what they advertised, it is usually a scam. This article you are referring to kept leading the consumer on with more info on something other than titled. I did listen a little bit longer before turning them off.

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Ruthy, good to know!! Your advice is much appreciated, as is your sage ability to assess my state of mind. What an amazing gift! I doubt you can count on making much jack from this particular talent, though. Don't give up your day job! :-)

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