Anyone Heard Of Methadone Clinics Watering Down Methadose? (Page 4)

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Anyone heard of methadone clinics "watering down" the methadose? There have been people at my clinic complaining of getting sick in the evening all of a sudden.

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Wow! That is nuts! They are not supposed to add water to your take-homes and they are supposed to be sealed as well. At least that is how the clinic I used to go to did theirs. I recently just transferred to another clinic and believe they tamper with the methadone because 2 days after I transferred I began to get SICK for the first time of being on the same dose in four months!

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My girlfriend and I go to the same clinic and we are going through this right now as we speak. I feel like I'm in daily withdrawal as of the last 2 weeks. And I've been in this clinic for 4-5 years. How am I gonna feel good one day and the next day when I take my dose feel like crap? That makes no sense, there's obviously something going on. I don't wanna raise my dose and have been on the same dose for over 3 years. But if I feel sick 4 hours after taking my dose what's the point on going to a clinic? I go there to stay off drugs not to get my dose tampered with and feel sick half of the day and have to feel like buying extra or even relapsing again, which is the last thing I wanna do. People always think everyone's situation is the same, it's not. What works for you might not work for others Sherlock. It all depends on the clinic you go to and eachother's bodies and dose that your on all goes into consideration including the length of time you've been on the same dose. Pain medication is all the same, after so much time your on something your dose will not have the same effect as it once did at after a certain time. Tomorrow I will tell my counselor to either correct my dose so I am not sick daily or I'm going to a different clinic period. I don't come to a clinic to feel sick and wanna relapse,cos then what's the point? I pay for my dose so I expect for it to work for me like it's suppose to and me not feel withdrawal symptoms. Maybe some people wanna go up just to feel high or nod off but I just wanna feel stable all day like I once was and that is all. F*** the rest! By the way this clinic is called Codac in Providence, RI ...I'm putting it out there so others are aware this does happen there, so be aware. But most important of all stay clean.

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Your 100% correct.they are not to add water to your take homes.by doing so there is no way to tell if you have the correct amounts if you get a call back to bring your mess to be checked.

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Any suspicion of tampering of food or medicine goes to the food and drug administration (FDA).

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The machine has a tube that runs to the bottle. Its sucks it up, measures it, then dispenses.

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I have been at a met clinic for many years and I can't tell you how many LPN's CNA's and one administrator that was in cahoots with one of the LPN's and was set up and busted red handed with the 40mg disk's. No charges, they just fired them. Now they have stopped dispensing the methadone disk's altogether and just have the red liquid now. The liquid is being diverted "stolen" when the big bottle comes out of the safe. They pour a quarter of the bottle out and replace with water. Nevertheless, it is what it is and has gone on ever since there have been clinics and will continue as long as there are clinics. Dr's in VA can only write 2 weeks worth of pain meds now because so many are dying from overdoses. If you are young and addicted to opiates please get off while you still have a chance to have a life. Don't go to a methadone clinic!! you will just get addicted to it and methadone is probably the worse drug there is to try to get off of. You will lose all your teeth. stay constipated, and crave sugar like it's going out of style. That's just a few things to think about. leave it to the Germans to come up with Methadone during WW2. Have a wonderful day, Jesus is the way!!

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Re: Amanda (# 27) Expand Referenced Message

Actually, that just happened to me and a couple other patients. The thing is that I made a recording of their threats. ALSO, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! If you believe that your doses are being tampered with, this is what you need to do: First, if you know any other patients who have clean drug panels, see if any of them are having the same issue. I say do this first because they're less likely to try and intimidate or punish you if you have a group of people involved. Next check your states recording laws (in my state, you can record conversations without prior notice as long as you are party to the conversation, and as long as it is a face to face meeting). If legal then make sure to bring in something small to record your conversations. First, make a complaint with a clinics director, but be careful as they will most likely try to blame you and threaten to punish you in some way. If the problem is persisting and they seem reluctant to talk about it (in my case I have been going through withdrawals for the past 3 weeks and they have also given us inconsistent answers when questioned) request that they take a peak and trough examination as this will rule out any metabolism problems or anything health wise. If after this it still persists then there is only one last thing to do, and that is to call your local DEA agency and explain the situation to them. IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO CONTACT THE DEA IF YOU SUSPECT THAT SOMETHING IS GOING ON. DO NOT LET THEM INTIMIDATE YOU AND DO NOT LET THEM TELL YOU OTHERWISE. The DEA will shut the clinic down temporally so that they can do whatever they need to satisfy their suspicion. Make sure that you have a second clinic as an option because if they are tampering with the methadone, then it will be a while before they open it back up. Also, remember that choosing a different clinic is another last resort option, and I am planning on doing that while they DEA sorts the other clinic out.

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Re: Verwon (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

I am going through this now. I am at a clinic where they give liquid methadose. Depending on the window I would go to I would get sick sooner. At first I thought the same thing that I was immune to my dose but I paid closer attention. I was always going to the same window and getting sick, then I changed windows and I was fine. Hmmm. My guy goes to the same clinic. He is on a lower dose but some days his take home bottle has way more than mine. Then I saw them change a bottle and watched them pour water into the big bottle of methadose, then hook up to a computer after they took a big cup full out! I tried to say something to my counselor in concern and she talked me in circles with no real answers! Does anyone know if I can get my take home dose tested somewhere to make sure my dose is right, because this is an on going problem of me getting sick one day then fine the next. I am not the only one who has noticed this. Not to mention I have had to go from 60 mg at my last clinic to changing to this clinic because it's free and I'm on 120 mg and still get sick!!! Wtf! Seriously, something is going on, how do I get them checked out???

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Re: Jeff C. (# 8) Expand Referenced Message

So okay Jeff so sorry you are one of us lowlifes, WTF. I am highly educated and have a good job and have take homes just like you, and I know for a fact that one of the nurses were underdosing me. I spoke to the Dr and my counselor and I now only get doses by the Dr or my counselor and have not been sick since. If you are so superior to the rest of us then go cold turkey. And I can say this because I am a "fiend" just like you.

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Yeah I would like to know how you can tell or how you can find out if they are stealing the methadone because the scene is going on in my clinic I don't want to name the name of the clinic but it's in Pennsylvania Montgomery County there's three different nurses that work throughout the week and when certain nurses work I feel my methadone on Sundays when certain nurses work I don't feel it on others whereas some days the methadone seems like it's water down a little bit and some days seems like it's stronger who do I contact for how do I find out who's anyone know

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All the time! I've had so many nurses or pharmacist steal my dose. The first time I was ever on methadone the pharmacist was ripping my dose off so bad I finally got tired of being sick that I jumped off methadone.

If you aren't taking drugs with your methadone or drinking extra methadone and you're feeling sick, someone is taking some of your dose!

It happens all the time. I've driven myself crazy trying to get those lazy chicken s*** counselors to do something about it.

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Sounds like you might have an addicted medicating nurse if that many patients are complaining of being sick. We had a medicating nurse at the city methadone clinic in Austin back in the 80s. I would be on 80 mg diskettes and he'd take one 40mg diskette from me on and on until I got ahold of him outside and told him I'm going to MHR and testifying against him if he didn't stop. He was a pharmacist that was taking clients doses and trading it for coke. He finally got busted and the next time I saw him he was driving a cab.

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Verwon, I wish you could've been with me the last 40 years on methadone. Because you would quit defending the clinics and start believing these people when they tell you they've had their doses taken by medicating nurses by adding water in the place of methadone. The only way to stop medicating nurses from taking it is camera's watching them and observed random UA's.

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Re: Amanda (# 63) Expand Referenced Message

They use a tamper proof seal on the bottle and can tell if you've gotten into it.

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Re: Amanda (# 55) Expand Referenced Message


A counselor stole some methadone and went home and OD'ed. So I know what you're going through.

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Re: dee (# 14) Expand Referenced Message

Which clinic in Texas did u go to? I go to a methadone clinic and they do the same thing.

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I have this same problem. Certain days with certain nurses it taste like water and methadone is lighter, like its diluted. Those days I get really sick way before morning. Other days I feel okay. This makes me think these nurses are diluting the methadone as the symptoms I get agree too. I have also witnessed the same nurse pouring out some of the premises methadone in a big cup And then putting water back in the methadone bottle before hooking up to the computer for dosing. This didn't seem right. And she jumped and acted nervous when she caught me staring at her. I said something to my counselor and nothing done, she still here and I am always sick on those days which makes me keep going up on my dose. Then when the honest nurses work, I am drunk because I get the right dose. This is dangerous. Who can check on this? Who do i report it to? I am starting to hear others complain on getting sick too. They should not be able to dilute liquid methadone with water, please help!

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Re: Cats68 (# 10) Expand Referenced Message

That's crazy, why would adding water deter someone from administering it intravenously? Makes no sense. If someone wants to abuse a substance, nothing will stop them. If people are addicts and go to a clinic, obviously they want help.

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I've never heard of Methadone clinics watering down methadone. But I know for a fact corrupt nurses or medicating personal have taken diskettes and watered down your does to make it look like you got your dose.

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Re: Kristine (# 3) Expand Referenced Message

Hello - if you are truly on methadone because your opiate dose was not working and you did not want to keep increasing, then you SHOULD NOT BE GOING TO A METHADONE CLINIC. Your Doctor can prescribe Methadone for you to pick up at the pharmacy and take yourself at home just like every other prescription . The law states very clearly Methadone can be prescribed for pain by any doctor, but for addiction (and ONLY addiction) tx it must be dispensed through a clinic. Clinics are only for patients that are addicts. There is a difference (BIG) between a physical dependence and an addiction. I am not sure where you live, but Google the topic of methadone rx prescribing laws specific to your state, print it out and bring it to your family or pain doctors office (the jackass that sent you off to the clinic instead of sending you home with a script). If he wont do it ask for a referral to another doctor because you have every right to NOT have to go through all the BS a clinic puts you through. Good Luck.

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