Anyone Heard Of Methadone Clinics Watering Down Methadose?
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Anyone heard of methadone clinics "watering down" the methadose? There have been people at my clinic complaining of getting sick in the evening all of a sudden.

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Re: Joseph (# 110)

Your 100% right the water does not take away from your dose u still get your dose. And the reason why they add the water and food coloring to the bottles is so that people don't shoot it up

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Re: Kristine (# 3)

It will be foamy in the c u p. The nurses steal the methadone, not the clinic...

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Re: Joseph (# 95)

Methadone isn't cheap when sold illicitly and a thief can find a way around cameras. Anyone working at a methadone clinic in a poor area will be approached by someone wanting it. Get real.

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Re: epr7339 (# 15)

I have been on methadone for 22 years for a chronic pain condition and I receive 14 take homes at a time and at my clinic in Santa Cruz California Janice is what it’s called and “ when they’re literally pouring my 14 individual take homes right in front of me actually watching her pour all of them so I know with 110% certain they ask you if you would want water or not and for myself anyway they always have everything poured before I get there it’s like it’s all ready for me to grab and go because irregardless of what time of days (They’re open from5:30am and they stop dosing people at 12:30pm) and not to mention that pretty much anyone else who’s been on methadone for a good length of time already knows that you’d definitely be able to immediately taste a difference Plus; Right when your dosing at the dispensing window if you tasted a serious difference in the regular taste of the amount (milligrams) immediately seek medical attention immediately!! only then (Definitely don’t go outside you your clinch while you’re pleading your case by the way!! Very Impt!!” disputing your issues with Nursing/ Management at your clinic basically when there’s of what you’re drinking-you can tell if it’s got the “normal amount”quite a bit (Normal Amount) can.. Occasionally I will take 3/4 of my dose in the morning and the other fourth in the afternoon sometime and I always put the water into my bottle that Im going to drink that Day (I get them with no water so I can tell the differences when I’m drinking the little one versus the big one so I think it’s just a common issue depending on how water down they put your toes what your dose actually is because if it’s not that high they’re gonna add a lot more water to it at least that’s what I’ve seen over the years with different happening to different people at along the way so keep that I’m mind…
I’M SERIOUSLY VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THIS AND HOW YOUR DOING HERE AND NOW!! ?? PLEASE LETME KNOW WHATEVER THE OUTCOME TURNED OUT TO BE AND ARE YOU STILL FEELING PHYSICALLY UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE YOU BELIVE YOUR DOSES ARE BEING-TAMPETED WITH AND GOD FORBID WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? She’ll definitely lose her job, ruin her registered nurse career…

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Re: Jeff C. (# 8)

I've been on the MMP FOR 22 YEARS. I am going to the sister clinic of the one I go to now due to it being closer to home. I had been going to the first clinic for 14 years. While I was there then let's just say person in charge got arrested by the FBI local sheriff's office and the local police also assisted on the arrest. So yes this person was taking half the bottles of methadose and filling it up with water. Oh by the way I was there I witnessed this with my own 2 eyes him being arrested. Now this was a big clinic so in the morning there would be at least 50 people in line waiting for them to open. One day 10 or 15 people started asking questions if anyone else was sick I mean there was a lot of complaints. So this went on for 2 weeks or longer PRIOR to the uh boss being arrested. Now the clinic I go to now is spot on I haven't witnessed any irregularities in the years I've been there. Now they are very strict on take homes diversion call backs and drug screens. At this clinic they test for 22 different kinds of drugs and they are all done by gas spectrometry no dip sticks involved. So yes it does go on but some people just need an increase I'm on 185 and have been for many, many years. I have no problem at this time methadose wise so I hope this helps.

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Re: ACF (# 19)

It's not even cheap for the clinic. It's expensive as hell. That guy who told you that is a moron

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Re: Verwon (# 1)

Yes of course but at the same time look at the character and personalities you see on the staff at methadone clinics, it's more than possible, it's probable.

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Re: Joseph (# 110)

So let me explain. When I was saying that they add water for preventative measures...I meant that they are adding to your correct dose. They aren't taking away from it. And yes a lot of the people that talk about it "being watered down" are full of s***. It is logged just like in a pharmacy. The state and about ten other organizations regulate it. Not to say that these clinics do what they are supposed to in every aspect ...but the meds for the most part are safely monitored and measured. I have been going to the clinic for 12 yrs altogether and I've seen one nurse that was stealing meds...but it was tablets not the liquid and she no longer works there.

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Re: Tt (# 106)

Please read my posts. I give examples water doesn't take anything away, it's just adding volume. If someone put 3 drops of Cyanide in your 12 oz. can of soda do you think that the Cyanide isn't in it? Of course it's in it, by adding water it's not removing your dose, it's still in there. Do you understand what I mean?

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Re: Amy (# 108)

You are getting the dose, it's in there! When you go to a bar and order a Rum and Coke the amount of rum is still in there, it's not getting taken away by the Coke! So easy to understand, I already gave several examples.

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Re: Jeff C. (# 8)

The clinic my husband goes to is watering it down and they tell you they put water in it! It doesn't matter if its 14 dollars or 140 dollars its our, money we should get what we pay for!!!! I can't speak for everybody but we got put on methadone so that we could live again! So that we could go to work clean our house take care of our kids. Just because we are addicts doesn't mean we're complaining just to get more drugs. We work hard for our money and if we're supposed to be getting something then we should be getting it! So you can say that we're just complaining to get more drugs or whatever they're watering down the s***

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Re: Tt (# 106)

But the dose is still in there. By adding water is just adding volume to it, just like pharmaceutical companies add binders and fillers to the tablets, if they didn't the pill would be so tiny. But it's not taking anything from your dose. When I go to the clinic once every 4 weeks I get medicated at the window and get my take homes, after drinking my dose there is the water dispenser to drink some water, it's not taking anything away from your dose. Like I explained before, if someone spiked your drink at the bar with Rohypnol it's still going to work,. Just because it's in the drink does not mean it is cut or whatever. It's still in there, the exact same dose. Believe me. I have been on MMT for over 25 years and I know what's going on. Even the doctor gives me compliments and tells me that "You are really well informed". I'm not trying to brag or anything but please trust me.

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Re: Don t waste your life (# 101)

Okay so let me explain they started adding water to it because it is more or less for preventive measures so that children and people that are not able to tolerate the medication or have a tolerance to the medication don't pick it up and drink the little bit of liquid left in the bottom of the bottle they did a study I guess I was reading about it last year where they tested 200 bottles that they had patience cap off at the clinic one day and every bottle at average had between 5 and 7 mg still left in it which is enough to kill two year old it said. So the reason that they add the water to it is because it dilutes it make it safer so if a child does pick that bottle up instead of being 5mg will be more like 1 or one and a half. Adding water isn't a problem if they're taking something away and putting the water in place of it. When they switch the bottles out I've seen someone from the state come in and do it thoroughly and this woman took out a scale and was weighing the bottles that she was dispensing I want to say she weighs what five bottles. No I seen or clinic Add Water straight to the bottle that is attached to the dispenser that's an issue because that means are watering down the medication by substituting the medication with water. If they're adding water to the bottle before they put your medication in that is a good thing not a bad thing and honestly it probably makes it so it's not so nasty because it tastes like s***. It's horrible. Our Clinic is the Cherry methadone and it was red when the first Clinic opened and now it is barely pink

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Re: Kevin (# 94)

Hi from Australia ,I don't know what it's like where you are ,I know that it was a lot stronger in the 70s 80s ,Evan after a small dose in those days ,it was obvious ,eyes pinned ,speech drawl,ect these days very hard to evan notice that someone had dosed that day. anybody else notice this !!

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Re: Optimistic (# 97)

Believe me, there are no supply chain issues, Methadone is cheap and plentiful, and the manufacturing process is not really too technical, say as opposed to Methaqualone.

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Re: Don t waste your life (# 101)

Your dosage is still in there, there just adding volume to it, just like when they put food coloring in it. Are you stupid or something? If someone put poison in your drink do you think that the poison isn't going to work? By adding water to it does not mean that you are not getting your dosage. If they didn't add water it would not look like much, they are just adding volume. It doesn't change your dose. Think about what I'm saying for a minute.

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Methadone is so cheap, what do they have to gain by doing that, except for being arrested and having their nursing or DEA license taken away. The risks outweighs the benefits by miles. You always hear rumours, and that's exactly what they are, rumours.

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Re: Courtney (# 12)

Very true. The clinic I go to in Galina Illinois tell you straight out they put water in the bottles. It makes me so mad I feel like I'm being robbed every time I go there. I get weekly take homes and they start my bottles with at least 15 to 20 milligrams of water then they add my methadone to the bottle that has water in it. I ask them why the hell do you put water in my medicine the nurse said "oh we been doing this forever". Couldn't give me a real reason why.

I'm going to pursue legal actions. I pay cash for this. I feel like I'm going to a dealer that's cutting my meds so they can make even more money. They're all shady as hell ALWAYS WATCH THEM make sure to ask why you doing this and why you doing that. Always watch they don't care you have to watch out for yourself

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Re: Kristine (# 3)

If u contact anyone I would love to tell someone about all of the crooked the clinic is doing to me and my significant other. I have already emailed SAMHSA and CARF...and am waiting on a response. Every time I try to do something they find a reason to take away takehomes. Even my counselor says we're being harassed. But I wouldn't expect him too jeopardize his job in any way. {edited for privacy}

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Re: Optimistic (# 96)

Another urban myth. If that was true people would die. You know that they make generic antibiotics, generic antiviral (HIV meds), generic chemotherapy drugs too. Don't you think that people would die because generics can be off as much as 20%? All the Waxman act is to guarantee american people access to cheap generic drugs. The reason why generics are cheaper than brand name is another story, mainly because they weren't invented by the generic pharmaceutical company. So they didn't spend many millions of dollars on research, clinical trials, advertising and marketing, etc... The inventor pharmaceutical company has to recoup all of the money that they invested in this drug, that's why brand name is always more expensive. It takes about 7 years for a new drug to come to market, and millions of dollars. That's why they are given a patent on it for about 13-15 years. After that it can be manufactured generically, no brand name. Think of it like this, Tylenol, which is made by Johnson and Johnson, vs the store brand of Acetaminophen. The store brand is cheaper and it's the same active ingredient. Make sense?

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