Adderall Manufactured By Teva Not Working (Page 67)

SarahAda Says:

Tue, January 10, 2012

I have had two refills of Adderall 20 mg that was manufactured by Teva/barr (Teva) and it seems to have much less medication in each pill. Refills by another manufacturer work. This is ridiculous, and where do we report Teva and who can check each pill for amount for medication? I would gladly donate some of my worthless ones to the FDA?

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Dakota Says:
Mon, October 10, 2022

Anyone else feel lately that Teva brand Adderall doesn't work? Previously it worked great, before that insane backorder they had. I got Sandoz for a month and it was better than anything I've had. Now I can't find it and Teva is back in stock but it's just making me feel sick, all side effects, no benefit. It doesn't feel like the same medication at all. I'm tired of explaining why one month I'm a stable functioning person and the next is just the opposite. I won't even touch the Teva anymore, having nothing is better.

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G Says:
Mon, October 10, 2022

Re: Dakota (# 1321) Expand Referenced Message

Mannnnnnn. TEVA, and all the others too!!! I think something reeeeeaaal fishy is going on…. I’m on my 4th brand and none of them do a thing anymore. Since APRIL!!

So sad. I can’t do any task over 5 minutes. I try to work but I turn around a go home. Haven’t left my house in 2 months. If I find out something is going on where the active ingredient is not working, or they’re skimping the pills of it; it’s gonna be a huge law suit coming from me!!

And by the way, if you have any extra TEVA pills my FDA contact has requested a sample for testing. They reached out to me about this when I complained! And I don’t have any more of their pills left!

{edited for privacy}

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Cyr Says:
Tue, October 11, 2022

I have found that the post"backorder" generis Adderall by Teva are ineffective. I first took the 20mg in August. They did not work at all. I tried the 30 mg in September. They were a lute better but not enough to overcome my executive dysfunction or get me out of my house. I took the brand name for 18 years then they became too expensive so I had to switch to generic. Doctor upped my dose from 50mg IR daily to 60 mg daily. In 2021 I was given Lannett and they were adequate. I have had nothing but trouble in 2022. Mallinkrodt, then Camber which not only did not work but made me sick. Searching for a pharmacy that would take a new Adderall customer was difficult but I found one who had the Teva only to be greatly disappointed. Something is not right

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Cyr Says:
Tue, October 11, 2022

Re: G (# 1322) Expand Referenced Message

I have 1 20mg and some 30 mg. I guess I will have to provide contact info when I report to FDA. Is it better to call or report online. I think I did report online months ago before the backorder ended

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Rcma Says:
Wed, October 12, 2022

Investigative journalism exposing a cover up, and class action law suits with billions $ in settlement fees are historically the only avenues to seek accountability in big pharma. This is old news, it's been happening for decades, the FDA cannot and will not enforce a zero fraud tolerance policy effectively; Congress won't touch it because big pharma puts candidates into office. It's always about $$$. Expose fraud, lawyers sue, they settle, lawyers get rich, the drug company still comes out ahead, consumers are screwed. Old story.

Adderall Supply Delays Likely to Continue for 2-3 Months, Teva Says

- FDA is now listing ADHD drug in shortage on its website
- At least seven companies experiencing supply challenges

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-07/teva-expects-adderall-supply-delays-to-continue-for-2-3-months

The drug has been in short supply since at least August, an issue that started this summer with a labor shortage at Teva, which supplies more Adderall in the US than any other company. Teva sells both the branded and generic products, and demand for the drug is at an all-time high.

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Walo Says:
Wed, October 12, 2022

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"At the root of this issue is that the FDA relies on testing data and information provided by the pharmaceutical companies themselves. “It’s as if the fox is allowed to give security advice to the chicken farmer,” says Mr. Renfro."

The main issue is NOT that the generic companies are immune to the liability. Rather, the main issue is that the FDA blindly assumes the generics are of equal quality and efficacy. Main issue #2 is that the plaintiff needs to establish that the generic was NOT identical to the FDA brand ie that an independent lab analyst did a chemical analysis finding manufacturer alterations from the FDA approved drug. THAT becomes a fraud case and it's a different ball game. The plaintiff attorneys could have re-sued on THAT basis, or perhaps sued the others, such as the prescribing physician.

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1984Again Says:
Fri, October 14, 2022

Re: Prescribed for ADHD (# 1218) Expand Referenced Message

Great points. I completely agree--the FDA/DEA/Big Pharma/Big Cannabis (yes, this now exists in states that regulate the stuff) may very well be working in collusion to make Schedule 2's useless and crappy, since the vast majority of opioids, benzodiazepines, and stimulants are all off patent and will therefore not make bank for shareholders.

The DEA has authorized vast increases of raw materials for the manufacture of cannabinoids and psychedelics, with the continued decrease of active ingredients for schedule 2 stimulants/benzodiazepines/opioids. This is right in line with the push in mainstream media and online medical advertising for cannabis-as-manna-from-heaven, opioids/benzos as "evil", pain/anxiety/cognitive and executive function issues as "a normal part of life that people must accept", and LSD/MDMA/etc as the " latest frontier" in "medication assisted teletherapy"--It's like the twilight zone!

The trouble is, those orchestrating this b.s. KNOW that it will be difficult to convince people (other than the sadly-increasing demographic of those who are easily brainwashed via media "nudging" or trust corrupted authority more than their own sensory perceptions) to abandon classes of medication known for generations to help pain (opioids), anxiety/insomnia (benzodiazepines), fatigue/executive function (amphetamines).

Nor will they find relief with their replacements--psychedelics and cannabinoids ad nauseum, as well as "me too" patents of gabapentinoids, orexin antagonists, melatonin receptor agonists, next-generation neuroleptics, and everything else and the kitchen sink from the phunny pharm phactory in India or China.

In a fair world and a fair market, medicines would contain the right amount of active ingredient, and inactive ingredients would not impair bioavailability or cause negative health consequences. Doctors would prescribe with the goal of improving the patient's health/quality of life and stopping their suffering, without interference. The patient would come first.

In that situation, doctors and patients would continue to utilize what had worked for generations of sufferers. Big Pharma's new meds would largely prove ineffective or even dangerous, and shareholders would be s&!+ out of luck.

But we live in a clown world dystopia of regulatory capture and BigTech "social" media hiveminds. Critical thinking--instead of blindly trusting and parroting the (paid-off) "experts"--is itself seen as a dangerous malady.

In our world, shareholder wealth is paramount. Successfully treated patients taking established medication known for decades to not harm other bodily systems are detrimental to increasing profit. In fact, the last thing that those who line their pockets in the illness industry want is a population who have easy access to comprehensive, safe and consistent treatments for their pain, fear, anxiety, fatigue, insomnia, or executive function/impulsivity issues.

In this scenario, the strategy is assured to work: Vilify Schedule 2 medications and assume the patients who need them are disbelieved. Make them difficult to obtain due to quotas, fearful doctors and pharmacists, and insurance/legal logistics, while advertising the new drugs and rewarding doctors who talk them up. If this still isn't enough, tampering with effectiveness of these entire classes of medications will force the patients' hand in giving them up out of frustration, nailing the old-school med coffin closed. The patients then have no choice but to buy the newly patented, quickly FDA approved and DEA compliant, potentially illness-worsening or promoting snake oil. As with so much else nowadays, the house cleans up while everyone else loses.

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Adam Says:
Thu, December 1, 2022

Re: Cyr (# 1323) Expand Referenced Message

I would like to comment concerning the quality of Teva's 2022 Adderall IR after the shortage: The efficacy is horrible.

To the best of my inside knowledge, Teva generic Adderall IR is actually manufactured by Barr Pharmaceuticals.

Many people will read what I wrote above and say....Wait... Barr no longer makes Adderall!

The truth is that they always have and sometimes they even outsource it to a small firm called Duramed Pharmaceuticals - DP

Teva handles distribution.

Here is my argument with FDA's oversight regarding the quality of a generic firm's initial testing of their product. Most people may not know this, but (in all practical purposes) when a generic firm like Teva wants to produce a generic, it is the generic firm, and not the FDA, that performs bioequivalence testing (testing their product on people to prove to FDA that their product is interchangeable).

Here are my problems with this.

1. The generic company invariably selects about 12 to 15 healthy people. I have read case studies where sometimes they have excluded people over 75, or their race distribution might be 80 white and 20% other.

-- This is what is called Poor External Validity --

External validity simply means that what (and who) is tested, truly represents the entire population.

2. The public is not allowed to review the testing methods and results that a generic firm submits to the FDA. Why??

3. The FDA pretty much "takes the generic firm's word" regarding test results. FDA does not oversee a generic firm's testing.

4. The FDA allows a kaleidoscope of "Testing Waivers" to firms that make no sense to me.

For example....

Let's say that Teva has produced results for three different strengths of their product, using statistical reasoning as a fallacious backdrop of deception, the FDA might say......

OK....You do not need to provide testing results for your 30MG product, given the other results provided.

The above consists of true information regarding how generic companies get their products approved, but the most fallacious technique that is mentioned redundantly is this:

The FDA will allow a generic firm to vary from 0,80 to 1.25 (in terms of its product's bioequivalence). Therefore, Teva could legitimately have a product approved that yielded 0.799 - or less that 20 percent from the brand name.

The argument is that statistically, this range has no -clinically meaningful- effect on a drug's bioavailability or bioequivalence. Please!

Now I will conclude with this: It is not in a generic firm's best interest to "fib" or procure negatively the external or internal validity of their studies to the FDA.

Once a generic company completes this grave sin, the FDA will make to so difficult for the generic firm to operate that many decide it isn't worth it.

Think about this:

At one time there was a considerable number of generic companies making Adderall (ie remember Corepharma just as one example)....

I hope this helps people truly understand the testing process of these generic firms and how weak they truly are.

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Actives Please Says:
Thu, December 8, 2022

Yes, I have the exact same experience with a refill from the beginning of December. I told my doctor, not that they can do anything.

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Rcma Says:
Thu, December 8, 2022

Everyone.... Get a U/A from your MD. Your MD will be have empirical proof via a laboratory... U/A's are classic methods used by doctors to determine whether patients are taking (or selling) their ADHD meds. Your urine will tell a story, otherwise the FDA will see your complaint as heresay.

If Teva is messing with active ingredients and efficacy, they'll have class action suits once again... they just paid out $$$ for opioids. Plenty of law firms would be HAPPY to go after Teva with a national class action suit. I'm actually surprised there isn't one already in works for the shortage.

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BlessedLady Says:
Fri, December 9, 2022

Re: Rcma (# 1330) Expand Referenced Message

Basic u/a tox screens only shows the presence of a drug. A decreased amount of active ingredient would not show up on a standard u/a tox screen.

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stephen e Says:
Mon, December 12, 2022

Reporting here for the first time. I have been taking teva/sandoz IR 10 MG adderall almost every single day since fall 2014. up until the shortage, both teva and sandoz worked decently well. I tried sandoz which made me feel sick on 12/2 so I had my doctor re-write my prescription. Luckily my local cvs still had teva. The last time i had adderall was the new Teva (12/8/22).

However, now this new teva felt more like a really strong caffeine pill and I barely felt focused but I felt super lightheaded and shaky. Mentally I felt okay but super extroverted while physically it felt like there was electricity in my veins and I felt really tweaky.

The comedown was super harsh, it felt like detoxing drugs for lack of a better description. I know that Adderall will always be strong again the first few days but this was nothing like the previous times.

I managed to find one last old Teva pill I had so I compared the new and old tablets and I realized that they were completely different: the old one I had felt more compact and hardened while the new one is chalky, powdery, and flat.

Also since Sunday (12/11/22), I have been experiencing “Brain zaps” (electric like jolts in the spine that feels like i'm drunk and the room is shaking as if there was a small earthquake but I am obviously sober) since not taking Teva. I have never experienced "brain zaps" from Adderall withdrawal. Coincidentally you can also experience "Brain zaps" from illicit drugs. it genuinely felt speed-like.

I think I’m gonna try taking Sandoz again since that was way less intense (although completely not ideal) and I think I'm gonna try taking sandoz without any caffeine really early on a slow work day and see how I feel. At least now I know the difference between new and old teva.

Please share if anyone has anything experienced similar especially with the New Teva post-shortage!

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Dee Says:
Fri, December 30, 2022

Re: 1984Again (# 1327) Expand Referenced Message

Yes! Totally agree. I have seen a push for cannabis and ketamine and all the while decrease in manufacturing of actual medicine that had been proven to work or lack of quality there in

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debralar Says:
Thu, January 5, 2023

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I plan to file a class action lawsuit! For us who have been on Adderall for ADHD, we are getting screwed as none of the pharmacies in Houston I've dealt with have any and are unsure when they will!! Doctors are prescribing to anyone who claims they have 1 symptom! When you are used to taking Adderall and suddenly stop (not because you decide to), it creates anxiety, depression, fatigue, etc. I will see those responsible for the shortages in court!!!

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BlessedLady Says:
Fri, January 6, 2023

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It is nice you have all the money it takes to file this suit. Although a court probably will not accept it because it is legally baseless. Attorneys only take cases they know they can win. No attorney is going to take this case and not require you to pay for it.

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