Adderall Manufactured By Teva Not Working (Page 4)

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I have had two refills of Adderall 20 mg that was manufactured by Teva/barr (Teva) and it seems to have much less medication in each pill. Refills by another manufacturer work. This is ridiculous, and where do we report Teva and who can check each pill for amount for medication? I would gladly donate some of my worthless ones to the FDA?

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Mrs G, how do you like the XR by Shire? I understand you're having side effects however do you feel motivated to work, study etc? I'm thinking of making the switch as well. Is it expensive?

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I am still unsure of how I feel... I wanted to take XR so that I could take it right when I woke up. I usually wake up at 8am. I work 3p-11p. My normal routine was take 30mg IR Barr at 10-11am, take afternoon topper of 10mg IR at 1-2p. I usually feel driven and motivated, not speedy. I am not even aware that I took medication. I eat regularly, remember to drink fluids often, and start feeling sleepy around 9-10p, get home and am asleep at about 1am. I used to need melatonin, then started Trazadone to sleep. The Trazadone made me groggy and depressed feeling so I cut out all sleep meds and am fine without them. Up until 2 months ago I was titrating my levels each month and playing with times for dosages, dosage levels, ect. I noticed slight side effects each time I changed something. My Therapuetic dose that I have discovered is like what I imagine "normal" people feel like. When I first started meds 6 months ago, I had the whole irritability when coming off, insomnia, appetite suppression (just kind of grossed out by most things on my plate), slight speedy euphoria, smoked like a billion cigarettes. When I reached what worked for me two months ago that all went away and I loved just feeling normal, but a happier and motivated me that could actually accomplish things and not remain in my house all day like a hermit either OCD cleaning yet not accomplishing anything, or carefully conserving all of my energy like a hibernating bear for my work shift. The reason I wanted to switch to XR is I was hoping to take the dose right away when I woke up instead of waiting till 10-11am with IR (because I don't want my sleepy time to fall in the middle of my work shift). I went through hell to get this damn name brand XR prescription and my insurance paid for it because of my misfortune with basically any generic besides the Barr 5mg IR tabs (I won't even try the Teva 10s because they made me feel weird which is what brought me to this forum and thread in the first place). I have taken the name brand for 3 days now. (30mg Adderall XR at 8:30am). Afternoon topper of two Barr 5mg IR tabs around 1-3pm. So far the name brand XR (by Shire) feels like nothing for about an hour. Then I feel slightly chatty and want to smoke 4,000 cigarettes. I would say about 3 hours goes by but feels like 1 hour. I smoke and Google things on my phone (instead of being motivated and productive). I only then remember to take my afternoon topper because I feel a change in myself like I am so starving and dehydrated that I know from experience that I must nourish myself in order to not feel side effects, but it's like I waited too long and my appetite suppression thing that I experienced in the beginning is back so I literally have to force myself to eat a banana and drink some water. Then my IR doesn't really feel like it kicks in.

I just feel a little more intense and a couple hours. After the initial 3 hours of feeling happy but unmotivated and hyper focusing on Google or online shopping while smoking a pack of cigarettes I notice that I am a little edgy. I feel like my eyelids are open extra wide, but I only notice that if I'm around people. I feel kind of annoyed by everyone around me (I work with disabled people and usually find joy in partaking in their day to day activities and helping them shower, eat, ect.). I get tired still, but in a crabby way, not like I had gotten used to (tired but in a happy, calm, sleepy way and just generally happy with whatever comes my way). I will say though that these same side effects that I am currently experiencing did happen for the first couple months of getting used to my Barr 5mg IR tabs, so I have hope that I am just getting used to the brand switch. It seems like the Shire namebrand XR makes me hyper focus but without motivation like Barr IR gave me. I didn't hyper focus either with the Barr IR. I just focused in the way I imagine a non ADD person might be able to. Just enough to accomplish things in a timely manner and finish them efficiently. I am just hoping that since the Adderall XR Shire is made with better ingredients than most generics that I am just adjusting again and that is all. Today (10:10am here right now) I have not taken it yet. I am going to open the capsule today and take it directly (maybe the gelatin capsule is an allergen for me with the edible ink on it?). I'm going to take 5mg of IR Barr with it as well, and 5mg IR for afternoon topper instead of taking 10 total in afternoon because the XR of 30mg is essentially only releasing 15mg instantly to my blood stream and I am used to having 30 released in morning. I have found in my experience that the earlier I take my dose and having most of it in the first dose followed with proper hydration and food has always worked best for me. I actually found myself eventually eating a little more than I did before meds once I adjusted to Barr IR regiment. I think because the Barr has more saccharine (sugar) that maybe that helps with physical motivation and maybe that is why some people feel like they crash harder on Barr because they are having a super crash? That's just a thought I've had recently. My insurance completely covered my name brand XR after the Dr sent in the PO for dispense as written. I'm approved for 3 years of name brand XR and I am really hoping it works out because it just sounds much better for your body without all the random fillers from other countries like the generics have these days.

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Hi Kim,
I was diagnosed with ADHD 3 years ago and began taking name brand adderall provided for me through the military pharmacy and I was taking 30mg IR (worked amazing, controlled all of my symptoms). A couple of months later I stopped taking the adderall for personal reasons. Just last week, I went to the doctor to begin taking the adderall again and was given a script for 30mg IR by Barr. I started taking 30mg in the morning an hour before school and felt NOTHING but a little bit of tachycardia. None of my symptoms were controlled. After a few days of taking the 30's, I decided to double it and take 60mg to see if I just needed to up my dose. After taking two of the 30's, I still feel nothing and it has been 6 hours since I took them. There is NO way that this medication is even close to name brand Adderall. I have NO tolerance since I have not taken anything in 3 years. Will be consulting my doctor for a new script for name brand adderall to see if I can get back on the stuff that worked before.

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Hi, Katie! I wanted to let you know that Shire sold the rights to "name brand" IR Adderall to Teva/Barr around 2009 when they lost their patent protection so since around 2009 there has not been any such thing as actual name brand IR Adderall. Shire still holds the patent for XR Adderall till 2017 or 2018 (I forget), so the only Shire produced name brand Adderall that has been available since 2009 in in XR capsules. So if you were taking name brand IR Adderall 3 years ago it was actually made by Teva/Barr.

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Chris- I wanted to update you on my Shire XR capsules. I discovered that if I open the capsule and take half of it with one of my Barr 5mg IR in the morning I have no side effects. I am still intending on going back to my Barr IR tabs for my prescription next month as they worked fine for me. I think that even though I am taking half the dose I normally would by using half of the Shire XR capsule as opposed to the whole, I feel the positive effects because ingesting the entire capsule makes the medicine remain in my system too long and the therapeutic benefits are over powered by too much of the l-amp which lingers in my system longer than the d-amp in the meds. I found the medical insert that Shire has with the XR capsules on-line and the insert has a section on the absorption and elimination rate of each ingredient in the med, and it says that the l-amp takes a few more hours to eliminate through your urine so once the d-amp is gone and only l-amp is left it makes you feel a little bit wired, intense, ect.

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I know what you mean. I have taken the barr (30mg) for 8 years and I've had no problem but recently the same meds have no effect. I notified Teva who is now barr or barr is now Teva and they launched an investigation. I gave them a sample of my current prescription and they seem concerned. They even offered to pay for my new script but they wont admit they changed the formula. My Doctor said that Obama is making drug manufactures use less stimulants in their medications. She also told me that if you make less than 34,000.00 you can possibly qualify for free vivanse for 12mo. Your doctor will have to give you the paperwork or you can message me at {edited for privacy} and I'll help you out. I've also heard that the name brand adderall has also lost its ability to help symptoms.

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I would definitely be interested in trying Vyvanse at some point! Next month I am going to go back to my Barr IR since it had been working fine. I only wanted to try XR because I thought it would be the same, but for a longer stretch to cover the day and it wasn't for me personally. Your information didn't come up because I don't think the board will allow private contact info though. Thank you regardless, and I'll look into the info you gave me and pursue it when the time is right for me. Take care!!

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I have never used adderall . It seems odd how the same medication made by different pharmaceutical companies differ. I am on a clonidine transdermal patch for blood pressure. My physician wrote out a new script for me. After I got the new patches they would not keep my Bp under control. I hunted up an old box that I kept and they were made by TEVA which worked wonderful. I dialed him up and told him to rewrite a new script and put on it by TEVA only. It has been working like a charm. Sometimes you have to investigate and shop around.

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On your post you said that medications could have up-to a 20% window of active ingredients. This is untrue. Both my nurse practitioner and pharmacist say the active ingredients can be up-to 40% less !! Also, I've tried about 30 stimulants and recently the name brand Zenzeddi. ALL OF THEM ARE INAUTHENTIC. Some have both synthetic Arsenics and Anthrapod brains in them; both are HEAVY METALS. I have written to the county and state commissioners of mental health and they said that they can't do anything about misrepresented and mislabeled drugs. We are being lied-to, experimented on, and put in a potentially deadly situation and the talk about Wellness & Health is a lie. This is illegal, unethical, and an act of genocide as the FDA hasn't responded when I called-in a report. I would imagine that this is a "class" situation because I will bet that if I were a brain surgeon or professor with ADHD I would be getting the real ingredients which are cheap and "Healthier" I find it impossible to believe that I am the only one who knows the difference between Dextroampthamine and poisons. The media is doing what their told by Big Pharma/Gov. By law cashews must be labeled if they are processed in a plant that also produces peanuts due to deadly allergic reactions, yet something as important as medications for chronic illness can be totally and carelessly counterfeited, misrepresented, given immunity from death or injury due to these lies and disregard for our health, ABILITIES, and QOL

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People with chronic physical illness are not drug addicts. Not everyone can take steroids, and are harmed by other non-opiate medications such as Celebrex. I am allergic to morphine. I'm tired of fighting a broken system; one that lies, misinforms, and really doesn't want certain groups to be functional. They would rather become insanely addicted to money and control without any concern for future and incurred Disabilities directly as a result from their secret poisons. We suffer enough, we don't need more pain and demeaning labels, no-less lose any opportunity to become self sustaining being taken away because of GREED and depopulation agendas. They are also putting-in radio-active additives as well

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I was taking the round pink ones and we went to a different place now where we can get are shopping done at the same time get prescriptions filled, and didn't notice till my next dose they are round and peach color with a 28 and two half moon shapes on the back, are these better than the pink ones. The peach ones say they are by Teva, i never heard of them????

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Sandy,
I am thinking they might have a 20 on them, not a 28. They sound like 20mg Teva instant release. Personally, the pink tabs you are talking about sound like Core Pharma OR Sandoz manufacturer and they gave me bad side effects. Everyone is different though and each person's body metabolizes things differently based on genetics, diet, ect. Originally I had posted because I discovered that there was a bad batch of Teva 10mg instant release and that is what I had at the time. I've never had a reaction from the orange Teva tabs though. It's okay to have your doctor write your script for a specific generic manufacturer though if you have bad reactions from a particular medicine by a certain manufacturer. The pharmacy will order for you if they know you use them regularly.

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I have reported to the manufacturer TEVA in NJ and filed a QUALITY CONTROL REPORT. TEVA lied about altering or changing the formula in any way, [TEVA bought-out BARR pharma], I was on BARR for 13 years with great success. I called both NYS Assemblyman and Senators office and was told by a Representative that "Maybe we can create legislation so that SOME PEOPLE can get PURER meds. I FAXED Ulster Co Deputy of mental health Amy McCracen and NYS Commissioner Ann Marie T. Sullivan, I was basically told she would help but the HIPPA is too complex and gave me a link to FDA. I've tried 30 plus name brand Zendeedi for both Dextroampthetamine Sulfate and Adderals and have HEAVY METAL POISONING, nothing but new high blood pressure, edma, head-aches, weight gain of 30 #s w/o reason. When I have contacted the FDA they never sent the forms. I contacted the NIH, they all say go to FDA. RESEARCH tells me the FDA already approved HEAVY METALS. Google-In TEVA and TRIOXIDE, ARSENIC, CEPHALON, CADMIUM. But begin with "just" TEVA and ARSENIC and page after page will come-up. I am finding the most powerful LAWYER I can as all parts of GOV and NON-PROFITS that are supposed to help wont because they get paid by the GOV. It's illegal for a pharmacist to examine the drug, [3 pharmacists told me], also a public law was passed that THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT IN ALL DRUGS CAN BE UP-TO 40 % less of the active ingredient. This is a crime, unethical, and deadly. You may want to get a heavy metals diagnostic as it stays in the body and does damage. I think DOCTORS and Members of Congress with ADHD get the real thing. I believe people on Medicare and Medicaid receive the FAKE AND TOXIC garbage while the Drug companies are getting rich off increasing health care costs and Killing people. The new philosophy seems to be that people with chronic illness both pain and brain [ADHD] are all ADDICTS. Except the very rich, they own the companies.

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How can one accept Teva so called Adderall. I have been on Adderall for over 30 yrs
I went to the local Wal Mart and requested a Brand name Adderall. The container they provided was labeled Adderall. It spelled out GENERIC on the label. 60 10 mg pills were priced at $318.00. I protested' they refused to change the price. The Pharmacist said I requested a brand name. I wanted Shire or another reputable brand. I found Teva has some unfavorable users. I was diagnosed while in the military, it is difficult to get to the VA Hospital. I am 84. Every dollar means a great deal to my wife and I. The pharmacist was very rude, she even lied to me

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Bodini, Shire extended release capsules are the only original namebrand. Teva owns the rights to what is now known as namebrand instant release Adderall. If your bottle says generic it should also say amphetamine salts where the name is printed...
Also, thank you for your service to our country. It is a shame that someone your age and whom has also served and sacrificed should pay any money at all for prescriptions. It's very unfair. Especially considering all of the money you and your wife have probably paid into the system through out your life span!!

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the pink round ones say cor and than it has #136 on them mfg. by corepharma LLC///and the peach ones are round and they do have a half moon on them and # 28 mfg. by Teva.there both suppose to be 30 MG, I am a Severe level ADD and Adhd.Had it For as long as I can remember Elementary school. And I haven't started the peach ones yet, been afraid to. Been taking the pink ones for years now I can fall a sleep on them ,I take 2 and a half a day, they seem to have lost the affect on me to focuse on things I need to do I rather take a nap.

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I suggest that all of you with concerns have your dr. give you a Heavy Metal test. I have tried, returned, complained and suffered as my 13yr, detoamphetamine Sulfate put out by BARR and taken over by TEVA was a counterfeit with severe side-effects. My heavy Metals test came-out High in 3 Heavy Metals including: Cadmium, Trioxide, Cephalon; and have more tests to go as I am sick from years of lies, deception and experimentation as well as harmful effects. The Stimulant Meds, [All of them], unless you're a working professional with good insurance and ADHD. Most ALL the drug manufacturers are secretly re-arranging molecules with toxic ingredients. None of the 30 "stimulants" worked, and caused 35# gain w/o reason, anger, frustration and harmful and toxic effects from synthetic ARSENICS. The higher-up Government told them several years ago to change our medications, but who would think it be w/o my knowledge and Consent. ? The name for all of these is Levo amphetamine, it's in everyone I've tried. It's creepy, look-up the Frankenstein twist and reversals and strange manipulation of these molecules, as well as keep notes on your physical responces and changes in your health, and mind.

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Yes! I have noticed (as well) that the Teva Adderall IR tablets are not as big in proportion as you stated. I have also noted a decline in potency.

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I recently was given a script for name brand Adderall 10 MG. I went to the local Walmart, sometimes reasonable. Not this time. They charged me $328.00 for a 30 day supply. I questioned the Pharmacist, she told me the name brand was made by Teva. The label also said "GENERIC", I disputed, she got belligerent. I finally got through to the FDA site...the adderall was made by a company in North Carolina, DWS, sold to Barr, then sold to Teva. Imagine that a pharmacist lied to me cent. By law, they can add as much as 20 percent filler to generics among other ingredients. I have not decided what action to take. I do not know a living human being that would pay 55 cents for a single 10mg pill of GENERIC adderall.

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I must agree with you on the Teva/Barr adderall. I took them the first prescription I ever had and it felt calm, clean, yet very focused. Next time my pharmacy did not have them so I went to CVS and they carry a generic that starts with an a (do not remember the name), but it felt like I was on dirty street coke, and was uncomfortable and jittery. quite frankly, I have ADHD, and I am honestly not sure how I am supposed to feel. I thought it was to help with focus and attention but also give you some extra energy for motivation. So, far I have not found that happy medium in between the two brands I have tried. I am not on a high dose but have a very high tolerance. I started on 10mg twice a day. then 20mg in morning with my diet pill (also gives energy) and 10 mg in late afternoon. I just become aggravated. I see the doctor on Nov. 2nd where he will increase to 20 mg 3 times daily. Hopefully that will help. I just need to find a generic that is consistent and works well. I am a psychology/neuro-pharmacology major so I am aware of the crap in these meds, and the inconsistencies between pharmaceutical companies, and FDA approval. It is not a placebo affect like many experts lie about and pass it off as that. I would appreciate a consistent generic if anyone is happy with one, if not i may shell out the bucks for the brand name instead.

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