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I have had two refills of Adderall 20 mg that was manufactured by Teva/barr (Teva) and it seems to have much less medication in each pill. Refills by another manufacturer work. This is ridiculous, and where do we report Teva and who can check each pill for amount for medication? I would gladly donate some of my worthless ones to the FDA?

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Re: Truth (# 1151)

Narcolepsy patients have been sharing the same issues for a while also. There are MANY groups discussing the placebo CNS meds that the FDA INTENTIONALLY ALLOWS 3rd world countries to supply to the US. Someone's gotta line their greedy ass pockets too. What better entity than bigPharma? People have been complaining for at least three to four years or more and nothing is happening for a reason. I don't know how we can find a resolution for our meds. I hate to say it but I become doubtful that we will.

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Re: Truth (# 1151)

Yes I've contacted all my other doctors and it's documented with them and the pharmacy as well. I went as far as researching if my metabolism or liver were the culprit. I believe the FDA only evaluates a small percentage of U.S. drugs. And as many have mentioned, we're talking billions in profits (and politics). On Sept. 24, 2013, I was present via webcast at the Patient-Focused Drug Development initiative with the FDA https:/­/­www.federalregister.gov/­documents/­2013/­07/­19/­2013-17327/­narcolepsy-public-meeting-on-patient-focused-drug-development, to obtain patients' perspectives on the impact of narcolepsy on daily life as well as the available therapies for narcolepsy. Ha, I want to know what the FDA would have to say of what's happening to patients now? Patients that have filed complaints that have been closed! I will be making contact with classaction.org over the weekend. (I'm in the process of packing to move Feb 27th, I have much on my plate ugh)

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Re: Addy (# 1153)

This past Friday I picked up generic Adderall from HEB by my house and it is manufactured (once again) by Lanett Pharmaceuticals. It's HORRIBLE! I take 3 x 20 mgs daily and after 3 I had no focus & ended up sleeping for 10 hours straight!!! It truly makes me sick how these pharma companies can get away with it. We all need to be heard and if it takes finding an attorney to help us do so I'm all in!! It certainly would not be the 1st Class Action suit TEVA and Aurobindo have faced!

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For the last 3+ months I have noticed a decrease in Teva's generic Adderall 30MG.

However, this month, I am noticing a profound improvement,

Whatever inconsistency Teva may have, from what I have currently experienced and read about..stay with Teva.

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Re: Nana (# 1143)

I just got alvogen brand 20mg from cvs this morning and so far I think I think it’s the best I’ve ever had I’m extremely focused and have lots of energy I haven’t felt this way since I got my 1st script

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Thank you for the warning, this is really upsetting. I get the Teva because they’re the only ones that seem real. Aurobindo is like those old crappy crossroads you could buy at gas stations back in the 80s. The ones with the M on them are so weak I have to take twice as much as usual. I haven’t seen any other manufacturers in years, but Teva WAS the only one that didn’t seem weak.

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Re: SarahAda (# 2)

Contact your insurance company and tell them also. If insurance companies refuse to pay for bad products, things will change.

I have been thinking of looking for an attorney willing to do a class action lawsuit against the manufacturers and the US government for allowing a cut in the active ingredient.

Personally, I wish our prescriptions were all manufactured here & not a foriegn country.

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Re: BlessedLady (# 1212)

It'd be so amazing if a manufacturer got Shire's original specifications and made tablets exactly the same as they once were. It's really sad how people aren't receiving actual Adderall. We could all be doing so much better. Life should be much, much easier for us. Some help is better than nothing at all, so patients think the generics are helping fine. When, in reality, they'd be shocked and amazed to experience how easy life can be with actual original Adderall. It worked. Literally a magic pill. It's really sad, the way generic companies ruined this medication.

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Re: Prescribed for ADHD (# 1213)

This is so true. Original Shire Adderall IR didn't feel like being "on drugs" in the colloquial sense the way so many of these generics do--and I'm not even talking "speed"; depending on manufacturer, they have felt either like Nyquil PM, Benadryl, sedating SSRIs, Phenergan, CBD, and once like ephedrine.

No matter if the manufacturer is Teva, Aurobindo, Mallinckrodt, Sun, Northstar, etc., as all of them not only feel like totally different medications than brand name, most don't even feel like they are CNS stimulants at all. Plenty have negative physical effects that are certainly not indicative of a poor reaction to stimulants/" side" effects of stimulants. And as far as neurological/mental health issues, all of these generics either do not help my ADHD or worsen some symptoms, while a few bring on other temporary mental health related symptoms that have in the past been brought on by certain medications, with the symptom vanishing once the medication has worn off!

Starting the very last years of the 1990s until the mid 2000s, the original Shire Adderall IR did what it was supposed to--decrease my ADHD-C symptoms dramatically, therefore fulfilling the necessary prerequisite--mental and emotional wherewithal--required in order to start improving every aspect of my life that had previously been stunted/thwarted/a failure/unsatisfactory/in a rut/marked by underachieving or outright avoidance due to my neuroatypicalities. It also helped me face the negative consequences of the harmful coping mechanisms I'd utilized, pre-diagnosis and treatment, as a form of self-medication.

I don't understand why NO pharma companies are using the (wildly successful) original Shire recipe for Adderall IR. Even though it's no longer on patent anymore, wouldn't Shire themselves want to manufacture it, charge extra for " brand name" (as many brand medications now off-patent do, like Dexedrine Spansules ER) and slowly watch as tons of people who have been long prescribed the genetic roulette of Mixed Amp Salts IR realize that the original was best (kind of reminds me of the 1980s Coca Cola controversy) and either pay more to do so or have their doctor file a PA with the insurance company stating that brand name is medically necessary.

My psychiatrist and I have tried every other possible drug for ADHD except Desoxyn. Some were awful, some not worth it for various reasons, some placebo-esque, and two that are far better than any generic in all ways. They are definitely worth taking and I have been doing so (both are brand name, not generic, I might add, and are far more expensive than Shire Adderall was).

But neither one has come close to Shire Adderall in attenuating not only common ADHD-C symptoms, but also anxiety, asociality, fatigue, hypersomnia, lack of motivation, aboulia, anhedonia, avolition, rejection sensitive dysphoria, overwhelm, avoidance, time-blindness, perseverance, and internal emotional dysregulation. Does anyone have any idea:

1. What could have made Shire Adderall so universally helpful to me and why all others (whether generic, brand name of other ADHD meds, and also Adderall XR) don't come close?

2. Why this notoriously corrupt industry pulled the plug on the Shire Adderall IR formula and won't allow it to be produced at all anymore, or even disclose to consumers the difference in the formula?

3. Why do they continue in insisting that all generics are functionally the same, always include "about the same amount" of the active ingredient, even though I've read thousands of posts like mine?

4. What possibly could be in the generic Adderalls that produce effects that are not possible in CNS stimulants?

5. Finally, I've begun to hear similar stories about Xanax and other benzodiazepines as well.

A friend said that for the last two months, his ( low-dose, as-needed for panic attacks) Alprazolam (generic) has made him fall asleep (which it hasn't ever before, which is why he takes this med in particular for panic attacks instead of, say, Klonopin) while not helping his panic attacks. My spouse's sister said something similar about her generic Alprazolam, a different manufacturer.

Most troubling, my coworker receives brand Xanax due to her insurance plan, taken prn for her situational anxiety, and had been responding very well for years. A couple of months ago, she saw that brand Xanax's manufacturer (as per the label) had switched from "Farmacia" to "P fizerViatris". She says that since then, she not only has crushing body fatigue and no anxiety relief when she takes a pill, but also feelings of sadness, night sweats, and weight gain for a few days afterwards. All stopped a couple days after she stopped taking the meds, but she still has GAD that responded very well to (Farmacia) Xanax and now is untreated. Anyone hear anything similar?

Any theories, anecdotes, information, hearsay from others are all welcome, including links to sites where this issue is more widely discussed.

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Re: 1984Again (# 1215)

Thank you so much for writing this! So appreciate you mentioning that it's other drugs of other types too. I'll add that this is the experience chronic pain patients are having too. It seems like it's all of the controlled substances.

Here's a theory... just judging by the fact our govt decided they would battle the "opioid crisis" in the doctors office (when it's literally the opposite and they made the problem exponentially worse, i.e. people get cut off or reduced dosage (based on the erroneous 2016 CDC guidelines for prescribing).. Then they turn to the streets and get poisoned. Especially when the drug formula is changed and stop working, the patient complains or asks for a higher dose (when previously on same dosages for years) and gets labeled as drug seeking.

Here's the theory... maybe they've made these drugs less effective, thus less appealing so people wouldn't want to take them "recreationally." My idea is their goal is to phase out the meds and get rid of them completely.

Think about it... I used to take MAS tablets, until they completely stopped working and caused problems, so... viola, my doctor decided Adderall IR doesn't work for my ADHD and I'm no longer taking it'll! It used to work awesome,, and I'd definitely still be on it if it didn't change..

ll never forget the look on their face when I brought the pills in, said they don't work, and demanded a different medication. Like, incredulous. Dumbfounded. Shocked. Like, you don't want Adderall? You have a bunch left and don't even want them?? Wtf? Because they knew Adderall (the real drug) works amazingly at treating ADHD.

I hadn't heard about this happening with anxiety meds because I don't know anyone who takes them, but I 100% believe it. This fits right in to this theory.

We need to get these pills tested. There are independent labs who can do it.

What is going on is horrific. I'm so happy other people are seeing what's happening too. It's tough to be heard when saying a C2 drug isn't working... ("ooooh just another drug-seeker or addict") and the kids who take them, they don't know it's bad drugs. They just think they're acting up or not responding to the med, t's so sad!

I'm wondering if prescribers have been noticing what's going on? They have to see the difference, especially with MAS. They have to be noticing how it's not working for patients anymore.

Funny, the medication combo that comes closest to working for me now... both brand name... both very expensive! Well have added a 3rd drug that's generic but not C2... probably wouldn't need it if I had my original medication that was the actual product my doctor prescribed.

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. I vividly remember the day I picked up the tablets that didn't work. Tgey made me feel crazy, no relief of ADHD symptoms. I never cared about which manufacturer made them, because it didn't (and shouldn't) matter. My life changed overnight to difficult mode. Completely different, just like that. I chased down the effective pills that were still left over at different pharmacies, until they were all gone. Eventually they all had only the garbage pills. It's so sad!!

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Re: Crlygrl7 (# 1189)

Lannett was my Rx until I got a refill 4/7/22. the new refill is Teva and it is no good. I want to sleep. I took 10mg in the am of Teva and struggled to stay awake. I took another 10 mg around 2pm and want to sleep.

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Re: Sikntired (# 1234)

Camber is working well for me! Someone said it’s also called Ascent. I found it at a Walgreens. They were trying hard to give me Teva too. She started to say, well you need to call your doctor to send your script elsewhere cuz I don’t have enough left, I think, but let me double check. Turns out she had enough left. So I guess I will call a few days ahead next month to check if they have it. I am telling you I refuse to have another wasted month of Teva.

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Re: Pamela (# 1248)

Hi Pamela. I just went to CVS again and they gave me the same Alvogen crap 30 mg and it does absolutely nothing!! {edited for privacy}

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Re: cat (# 21)

You assume that you are getting Teva but you are not. Yes if 20 mg or 30 mg a new company has produced what I believe is a copyright infringement. They are identical looking, but if you look at NDC # You'll find Saccharate in the brand you are getting. I don't know you from the next person, but I am willing to guess that you are getting them from a Walgreens that was previously a Rite Aid or if recent possibly CVS.

I Have been getting Teva since 2011, and just yesterday I went to get my prescription and it said Round Peach, I was never informed of any manufacturer change. And I called the Pharmacy 3 times because I was hesitant to take it. Well, I fell asleep. 1 hour later and I literally woke up. Camber Pharmaceuticals just launched the IR Adderall 3/2022, and I informed my Dr, as he sends "no substitution Teva only", so they are in the process of being filled and I looked at the NDC Number and it is Camber Pharmaceuticals again.

I am not one to sue, however MA Law states that if you are not made aware of a manufacturer change, the MA Board of Registration of Medication allegedly investigates the Pharmacy. You are actually receiving what you think is Lannett Pharmaceuticals generic, when in reality Teva has an ownership in several brands, but the most effective one is Barr Laboratories, i.e 20 mg flat oval orange b 973, 30 mg is oval in shape but rounded where it doesn't lay even on a flat surface. The bottle should read Oval/Peach b/974.

Editor's note: References are lacking so this message should be considered a personal opinion.

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Re: Soyyomml (# 1295)

THIS IS COMPLETELY INCORRECT. ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT! DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION.

VYVANSE is a COMPLETELY different medication and chemical compound than ADDERALL.

Vyvanse is Made from Lisdexamfetamine.

Adderall is Dextroamphetamine Sulfate with 25% mixed amphetamine salts.

Unreal.

VYVANSE Is Is under patent and is not manufactured by TEVA.

Yikes. The stuff people come up with on this thread is way out.

Please do basic Google research before posting nonsense.

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Re: Cyr (# 1310)

Still should be reported and looked into/investigated to fix the issue. The company TEVA should have their formula checked and then figure out the problem from there. Could be the ‘CMO’ as you say which is likely true (or TEVA isn’t using enough of it). Either way, that doesn’t change the fact that TEVA pills are not working while other companies are.

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Re: Cyr (# 1320)

"At the root of this issue is that the FDA relies on testing data and information provided by the pharmaceutical companies themselves. “It’s as if the fox is allowed to give security advice to the chicken farmer,” says Mr. Renfro."

The main issue is NOT that the generic companies are immune to the liability. Rather, the main issue is that the FDA blindly assumes the generics are of equal quality and efficacy. Main issue #2 is that the plaintiff needs to establish that the generic was NOT identical to the FDA brand ie that an independent lab analyst did a chemical analysis finding manufacturer alterations from the FDA approved drug. THAT becomes a fraud case and it's a different ball game. The plaintiff attorneys could have re-sued on THAT basis, or perhaps sued the others, such as the prescribing physician.

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Re: Cyr (# 1323)

I would like to comment concerning the quality of Teva's 2022 Adderall IR after the shortage: The efficacy is horrible.

To the best of my inside knowledge, Teva generic Adderall IR is actually manufactured by Barr Pharmaceuticals.

Many people will read what I wrote above and say....Wait... Barr no longer makes Adderall!

The truth is that they always have and sometimes they even outsource it to a small firm called Duramed Pharmaceuticals - DP

Teva handles distribution.

Here is my argument with FDA's oversight regarding the quality of a generic firm's initial testing of their product. Most people may not know this, but (in all practical purposes) when a generic firm like Teva wants to produce a generic, it is the generic firm, and not the FDA, that performs bioequivalence testing (testing their product on people to prove to FDA that their product is interchangeable).

Here are my problems with this.

1. The generic company invariably selects about 12 to 15 healthy people. I have read case studies where sometimes they have excluded people over 75, or their race distribution might be 80 white and 20% other.

-- This is what is called Poor External Validity --

External validity simply means that what (and who) is tested, truly represents the entire population.

2. The public is not allowed to review the testing methods and results that a generic firm submits to the FDA. Why??

3. The FDA pretty much "takes the generic firm's word" regarding test results. FDA does not oversee a generic firm's testing.

4. The FDA allows a kaleidoscope of "Testing Waivers" to firms that make no sense to me.

For example....

Let's say that Teva has produced results for three different strengths of their product, using statistical reasoning as a fallacious backdrop of deception, the FDA might say......

OK....You do not need to provide testing results for your 30MG product, given the other results provided.

The above consists of true information regarding how generic companies get their products approved, but the most fallacious technique that is mentioned redundantly is this:

The FDA will allow a generic firm to vary from 0,80 to 1.25 (in terms of its product's bioequivalence). Therefore, Teva could legitimately have a product approved that yielded 0.799 - or less that 20 percent from the brand name.

The argument is that statistically, this range has no -clinically meaningful- effect on a drug's bioavailability or bioequivalence. Please!

Now I will conclude with this: It is not in a generic firm's best interest to "fib" or procure negatively the external or internal validity of their studies to the FDA.

Once a generic company completes this grave sin, the FDA will make to so difficult for the generic firm to operate that many decide it isn't worth it.

Think about this:

At one time there was a considerable number of generic companies making Adderall (ie remember Corepharma just as one example)....

I hope this helps people truly understand the testing process of these generic firms and how weak they truly are.

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Thank god I finally looked into this! i was diagnosed at 12 yrs and have been on medication since (I'm 28) and I have never had any problems until recently. my dosage was increased and that seemed to work for a while. now i am taking what seems to be ALOT and its not working at all. i mean this is ridiculous. i can't function i don't know what to do .

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Teva,isn't effective? Corepharma is ok. Shire's Adderall is preferable.

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