Adderall Generics Thread (Page 4)
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Hey guys. Most of us are probably in the same boat--our Adderall doesn't work and it's horrible and we can't function well and it's bull**** and we all know that, but there are other threads/forums to vent frustration. We need a thread with the basics to help us all get going again or to know what to avoid (even though that seems like all of them these days, ha.) PLEASE POST THE FOLLOWING: 1. MANUFACTURER OF YOUR RECENT ADDERALL PRESCRIPTION 2. XR OR IR? HOW MANY MG? COLOR/SHAPE/IMPRINT? (if possible) 3. ***PHARMACY NAME*** AND MONTH/YEAR OF SCRIPT 4. YOUR LOCATION (if you are comfortable with that) 5. SIDE EFFECTS/SYMPTOMS. GOOD? BAD? Generally speaking, chain pharmacies use the same manufacturer at all of their locations throughout the country and that will make it easier for us to either get a hold of that specific manufacturer's Adderall, OR to avoid it if it's a bad batch. Replies to other posts are allowed, but please try to stay on topic so that the thousands of people viewing this thread can easily keep track when they are going in for their monthly prescription. Thanks so much!

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I called my pharmacy and asked. They were really cool and honest about it. They straight up told me they just switched companies where they get them from to Aurobindo because they’re “much cheaper.” I let her know that in my opinion they’re much cheaper because they are absolutely not worth it. She said I can come fill out a form explaining it so that they consider switching back to their former company.

My advice to you all about this topic would be to ask your pharmacy what manufacturing company they go through. On my bottle, it says Mfg: Aur — that’s how to know.

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Re: DannyDowner (# 52)

What do you do in this situation? Ask your doctor/pharmacy if you got BS pills?? ... or question the quality of who they get them from? I’ve wanted to ask but have hesitated because it’s awkward. I don’t want to seem like an addict... but I’ve been taking these long term, therefore I’m dependent on them (apparently), so this bad ‘batch’ has really affected me mentally. I mean, this is the first time (month) this has happened... the generics all the past 8 years have been just fine.

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Got Aurobindo one month, Teva the next, IR 20 mg, from CVS and Walgreen's respectively, both on the Central Coast of California. I would like to find a reputable lab to send these pills to as I am pretty sure they contain little to no amphetamines. Aurobindo pills literally made me fall asleep. Teva made me drowsy, unmotivated, depressed, and caused upper GI issues, even worse.

My theory is that the DEA/FDA/Big Pharma are conspiring to make sure that there is not only no more actual instant release amphetamines in these pills, but also to pack them with other substances that cause new physical symptoms, prompting us to go to the doctor to receive new diagnoses that require non-scheduled medications. For example, I can't count the number of times in the last few years that I've read about an ADHD patient on generic Adderall subsequently developing GERD and being prescribed PPIs.

And of course, anything we say about how generic Adderall does not work the way Shire's original brand name Adderall did is dismissed as "nocebo effect" or "tolerance". B.S. I found an expired brand name Shire Adderall and took it and it worked as advertised for my ADHD and narcolepsy symptoms. These new generics do not.

With the insane War on (Patients Prescribed) Opiates, is it any surprise that they are now targeting patients prescribed the other class of Schedule 2 medicines, i.e. stimulants, particularly amphetamines, albeit in a more sneaky manner, i.e. changing what is in our meds and not admitting to it, rather than just arresting doctors who are adequately treating patients for their pain and manipulating the public into demonizing opiates and acting as if marijuana is a cure-all?

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This is the first time I’ve ever questioned whether my adderall prescription was a placebo, cheap, or just sucked.

This time, they looked different. I got it from the pharmacy inside my doctor’s office rather than Walgreens. Mistake. I always get generic, so that’s not the issue. Used to take XR’s but my insurance only covers IR’s now.

1) From online, it appears the manufacturer is Aurolife Pharma, LLC an Aurobindo Company
2) they are 30 mg, IR - round, peach (much lighter peach than normal) - quarter crossed on one side and imprinted “U31” on the other
3) I got them in my psychiatry office with their own local pharmacy, so I’d rather not say the name - but in Nebraska - got them October, 26, 2018
4) umm side effects = not s***

— I’ve been prescribed this dose for 4 years. I’m aware you build a tolerance, but I can still notice whether they’re working or not. After I got this filled and took them yesterday, I slept for 15 hours. That’s what happens when I run out of them for a few days too (dependence, I know). I’m prescribed 60mg per day. After not noticing anything after taking my normal 60mg, I took another one, so total of 90mg. Still nothing. I may call the pharmacy and question it, because these suck and aren’t worth it. I hope they aren’t full of fillers that can be harmful/toxic. I also noticed there was no taste to the pill whatsoever and it almost dissolved in my mouth before swallowing it.

In one forum I noticed someone who commented that there is absolutely no difference in generic brands when comparing manufacturers and it’s “all in everyone’s head”... then proceeded to call everyone meth-heads. No, if you have ADD, you’re going to notice if your medication isn’t doing its job. So please keep the negative opinions to yourself in that regard. Just want to know if anyone else has noticed this before I question the pharmacy about them. I don’t know why all the sudden their generics changed.

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I am plain miserable as you all are. Right now I am getting Teva from Walgreens. I swear they are sleeping pills! I get headaches & just don't feel good at all. Back in 2009 Adderal saved my life, I had been in a depression so bad, I talked to no one, I went nowhere, etc. My husband & mother died & was so alone missing them and didn't like life. When a Dr. in Madison, WI who gave me these, I felt so much better, it was a miracle. I started exercising, even eventually remarried. Moved to Belvidere, IL, in 2012 Uhg, it took forever to find a DR. to give me them, I take 20 mg 5 times daily. At first, I would drive half hour to Hi Vee store because they had Sandoz, which were the best then. They don't have them anymore and I can not find anything else that works. What can we do? I am almost back to where I started in 2008.

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Teva 20mg orange football shape, b973. Filled at Taylor drug/Utah. Have been on Every generic over 6 years, Teva has been the best besides the last year or so, but compared to Aurobindo and Mallickrodt it’s better. I usually fill at Walgreens and for some reason their Teva is awful. NEVER get Aurobindo. If you can find Sandoz or Teva you’ll be better off.

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1. Adderall XR generic manufacturer: Prasco

2.
30mg XR - Orange & clear capsule with visible beads
20mg XR - Solid orange capsule
10mg XR - Blue & clear capsule with visible beads

3. Filled at Kroger Pharmacy, most recently 09/2018

4. Toledo, Ohio

5. TL:DR - Prasco was helping at first but stopped helping a few months ago and now it makes me super demotivated and lethargic and makes my neck hurt. Feels sort of like it helps the hyperactive part of my adhd a bit but makes the inattentive part go in to overdrive so it levels out to just being useless.

I have been on 30mg XR (up until June 2018), and now on a 20mg XR and 10mg XR (started in August). All of which were Prasco brand. I am a newly diagnosed combination ADHD and have never been on name brand Adderall XR so my experience is all fairly recent and without a name-brand baseline.

Prior to April 2018 I had been on a few different generics of both XR and IR but was not recording data at the time because I did not realize generics were a giant mess.

The first month I was on the Prasco (April I think) I did not have any negative side effects, and felt that it helped a bit with my focus but not a lot which is what caused me to take note of the manufacturer and start trying to read about all the different ones.

In June after refilling the same script and again receiving prasco xr, I felt demotivated and without any focus. Focus feels just like it did before I was taking anything or maybe a little worse, but the demotivation was much worse. Unmedicated, my focus is everywhere and I am very high energy and all over the place. With this refill though, I was more of a sedate unfocused - Just a lot of kind of staring at the thing I was meant to be focused on while my mind wandered. And my impulse control was terrible, my ability to force myself to change tasks or start tasks was even worse than unmedicated. I wasn't sure if that was due to some change in meds or if it was something else going on with me at the time though.

For July, I switched meds ENTIRELY and took one of the ritalins which is not what that thread was about; Ritalin does not work for me so I had migraines and no focus, but it was kind of a move of desperation just to see if maybe I could get away from the inconsistency of the adderall. The demotivation was better on the ritalin though than on the generic adderall, and even though I was all over the place my ability to redirect my focus was better than the previous month.

For August, I switched to prasco generic adderall 20mg xr & 10mg xr so I could space them out instead of 30mg all at once. Same issue - No focus, demotivated. I've also been having issues with neck pain and muscle soreness, which I did not correlate but after having seen someone else mention this, I feel it's worth note since the issue started at the same time my response to the meds changed and that the pain went away during my month switch to ritalin.

Also, one specific behavior I exhibit has gotten WAAAAY worse on the current Prasco. Sometimes I get 'stuck' on ideas or in places and it's easiest to describe it with an example: Sometimes I stop at home depot with a project in mind but without any firm details, and I find myself spending hours there in sort of a mildly distressed state being unable to make any decisions and being unable to leave so I just wander around. Not even brain storming, my mind just kind of goes blank and I get stuck and can't move on and it's a big pain in the ass. This has gotten WAY worse, not so much when the Prasco is in my system, but during the post-medication fade after about 3PM. So much so that I will no longer go shopping by myself any time other than the morning, but I can't always control what things are going to set this off so I'm still getting stuck in other ways. It's so much worse that I really have to blame the Prasco, it's never been so bad in my life. It got better during my month on ritalin.

As I am sure you are all aware, it's really difficult to piece together information about these generics, but it looks like Prasco had a formula change around that time best I can see - I think they were previously distributing their own authorized generic, but then started distributing Teva's formulation under their name. If anyone knows if this is correct I'd love some clarity.

I really, really hope more people post in this thread with the correct above format, because it would be so helpful for trying to piece things together!

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What is the best generic Adderall available in IL? The Adderall they give now do the opposite of what they have EVER done in 8 years. I don't understand how pharmacies can do this/or the makers of generics? We need this medicine to feel right.

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Is it just me, or is adderall generic sandoz getting worse...? I am noticing no benefits only side effects of hyperfoucusing on it since around my last refill in july.

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30mg Adderall IR- Indiana/Illinois area Sandoz brand from CVS.
Works great for me and has changed my life within a week of switching from Teva/Barr and yes I’ve tried every other brand too even brand name car still choose Sandoz by far! 30mg tablets are on backorder at every Cvs I’ve been too had to go to 4 different Cvs to find one that said they only got it on accident and they weren’t scheduled to have more til October! So idk if it’s just 30mg I had no problem with 20mg but yah this is real and is on the FDA shortage list due to the dea blocking the amount allowed to treat afflicted patients and the fda is mad at them for causing this shortage—like Richard Nixon said “I can not tell a lie” thank your local police for regulating your medicine and throwing all your doctors in jail.

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Re: Karen (# 40)

Check Harris Teeter. I live in Fayetteville and that’s the only place I found them.

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30mg oval orange pills this month from CVS near Pittsburgh actually seems like a consistent batch. Meds are working while not putting me to sleep, it's a miracle....until next month....this is an absolute shame.

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The strange part about posting here is that (at first) I was seeking answers for why there is a huge, nationwide back-order for Adderall/generics. I recently switched back to Express Scripts (after I vowed I would never do mail-order again, over two years ago), because I have had a tough time filling my 20 mg tablets retail, for the past four months.

Hysterical.

Not only does Express Scripts not have my 20 mg tables, they have NO TABLETS, WHATSOEVER. None, people. That's like...unheard of! I guess it's back to cold-calling pharmacies, until someone claims to have what I need.

Anyway. But back to subject at hand.

I have been telling my husband for about six months or so that I don't feel great about my meds, neither the long- (30 mg) nor the short-acting (20 mg) pills seem to be working very well. Conversely, I've been lately feeling tired and depressed. No medication should flip efficacy like that. I take my meds consistently and responsibly and I have never felt a drop-off like this, not ever. I'm a real creature of habit, too: I use the same pharmacy, in the same town, wherever I live, and I don't like to bounce around AT ALL.
Anyone who takes controlled substances long-term knows how pharmacists pill-shame. But ya, I couldn't imagine why the drugs were not performing the that way that I expected them to, and now I know it's not just me. It's not just my brain changing every seven years (or whatever). It's certainly not resistance -- I voluntarily reduced my dose about four years ago, bc I thought it was time to see how I held up on less medication. I was fine, until (like I said) about six months ago. I was also unwilling to discuss this problem with my doctor before my last appointment, for fear that he would worry I had developed too high a tolerance. But with this recent shortage, and with the stress of getting the less effective generic brands, I finally let him know: "Hey, my meds are actually not holding up very well. I don't think I want to increase my dose, but I just thought you should know." He looked at me and said (with a knowing sort of tone), "Huh. Okay, well, that's not too unusual, not lately."

Gee. Great.

So, why is this happening? I read that the DEA or FDA (the powers that be, if you will) basically restricted the manufacturing of Adderall by 45%, over the past two years. I wonder why all of these agencies conspiring to withhold an already less effective pharmacological therapy from legitimate use, so that patients sometimes have no access to it at all? And they also seem to feel no need to tell physicians or prescribers about the changes. Wouldn't doctors consideration perhaps prescribing this medication to fewer new patients (at least), due to increased drug shortages? Doesn't that create a sort of moot therapeutic environment? Won't people seek illegal sources of these drugs, if they can't get what they need legally, and in their own country? I mean, I certainly don't plan on going that route, but trying to crash everyone who takes ADD meds into each other by basically putting them in competition for medication -- and forcing doctors to cobble together new prescription, month-to-month, based on what's available -- isn't that more of a public health risk, than creating an artificial restriction on legal access to this medication?

I have come to feel that the powers that be continue to needlessly waste time, money, and patient stability.
It puts a strain on us, our prescribers, and (yes) even the pharmacists. Never in 20 years of taking medication for ADHD have I ever experienced such a prolonged strain on the supply side, nor has the quality of the drugs I take been so low.

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I hate the Aurobindos so much I drive to another town for Wallgreens for Tevas. I recently complained to:
"[email protected]" after finding their information in a chronic pain article about quality control of generic medications, how yanking stock causes backorders, etc. They replied and it didn’t seem like a canned response. I ask that anyone with generics that they think are crap please tell the FDA.

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Re: T (# 3)

Teva brand sucks but cant find Sandoz. Better quality and works like it should. I am near Charlotte NC.

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Re: The Dude (# 33)

I was also wondering this as I live in Denver as well and have only had the option of aurobindo and teva/Barr which neither is effectively treating my ADHD!

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Prescribed 20mg to be taken twice a day

Last fill: Cheyenne, WY Osco pharmacy about a week ago. Received aurobindo (round peach U31 is the imprint I think)
Effects: feels speedy gives me a headache and makes me feel a bit agitated. Have had these before and there is something very off about them. As for treating my adhd, (hyperactive type) they make it worse honestly. Less able to focus...more restless than usual. I generally do not have the urge to take more than my prescribed dose and sometimes I don’t even take my second dose

Prior fill: Walgreens in Denver, CO
Received teva...the orange footballs. To me, these don’t have any adverse side effects and feel like the adderall I am used to. However, they seem very weak and wear off relatively fast. By 2:00 pm I have usually taken both pills and no longer feel any effects, but in order to not run out of my prescription I just deal with it :(

Prior to that fill, I filled at king Soopers and received the same aurobindo ones discussed above

And prior to that I filled at CVS and also got the aurobindo ones. Seems that it is the dominant generic brand available

I am thinking of asking my pdoc to increase my dosage and only filling at Walgreens since the teva ones seem okay other than being weak and having a shorter duration :/

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Re: Tryingtofunction (# 34)

I am in Maryland, and currently on 20mg. From what I've read, the majority of CVS' should carry Mylan. The only time I noticed my CVS had a different brand was when a patient specifically requested them to order a bunch of Teva, and never picked up their prescription. Or at least that's what the Pharmacist told me lol.

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Re: MauMaMa (# 29)

Hey # 29 maumama-I found a small local pharmacy that has been so great. They only ever carry Sandoz and teva / Barr. I’m so happy to find A pharmacy that is local and cares about the people they help. Side note, my GP, Who I also love, referred me by to an ADHD specialist. The specialist suggested specific genetic testing that can help with dosing, DO NOT DO this with out checking that it is being processed properly through your insurance. I think that ultimately it is a great idea, but it is still somewhat experimental and needs to be processed properly. There is ever increasing knowledge about brain chemistry that might help all of us, but I didn’t dot “I’s” and cross “t’s” and $4,500 later, I just hope I advanced science. Just be aware this seems to be increasingly suggested, and not fully explained and not coded properly. I am unprepared for this expense, because I was told it would never be more than $1000 by the specialist. Despite the fact that I can’t afford it, I still think that researchers will hopefully use this data from genetic testing to advance formulations and dosing. However, my fingers are crossed, and don’t make my mistake, read the fine print!

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Re: BendBack (# 20)

I agree with you 100%. CorePharma is the only one that works for me. Unfortunately my pharmacy informed me they are no longer available because CorePharma sold out to Impax and they are not manufacturing generic adderall tablets.

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