2172 Hydrocodone Acetaminophen-actavis/walgreens Complaint (Page 4) (Top voted first)

I too had my RX medication refilled (again) at Walgreens, but this time (When I did not take my RX Tylenol with it, like I always do) I noticed, that I have been given a different Brand of medication (A Generic Brand/MFG by-ACTAVIS). My "Norco-Hydrocodone/Acetaminophen 5-325/TB" did not work as prescribed or even when I took 3 pills at one time (because 1 nor 2 pills didn't work/relieve my pain). I believe I have been given FAKE NORCO/Hydrocodone pills (white/#2172 on them) from Walgreens Pharmacy. Today I contacted the DEA & FDA via email and requested that they investigate my complaint as soon as possible.

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They changed the formula, it used to have pink specks in it. I now go to Fred Meyer, and always ask who the manufacturer is. I believe that activis manufacturer makes a inferior product. My gabripentin is missing tops sometimes and my BP meds the line across top is inexact on all of them.( Line where you are supposed to be able to cut in half).

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Re: w john (# 37)

I have the same problem! My top notch PPO insurance suddenly refuses the name brands. I get very sick on many generic brands. I would appreciate knowing which generic mfg 7.5 325 is closest to Vicodin brand.

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So did DEA or anybody respond to you because I feel I got fake ones too I have 10 / 325 and I put going to Walgreens because I think I got fake ones I think they had that Tramadol rather than codeine and I also believe that they were white instead of yellow

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Re: Kelly (# 19)

So did DEA or anybody respond to you because I feel I got fake ones too I have 10 / 325 and I put going to Walgreens because I think I got fake ones I think they had that Tramadol rather than codeine and I also believe that they were white instead of yellow.
Last year I went to Walgreens in December and I thought I had the worst case of the flu for like 6 weeks cuz deathly ill everybody that works like what's wrong with you and I think the whole time I was entain number one cuz it never helped my pain and then I think I was probably withdrawing from the opiates it sucked the only good thing about it was I lost 20 pounds

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Re: Peggy Sue (# 45)

What were the numbers on yours? Mine are white and have numbers 328 or could be 323. My eyes are awful, so it's not very clear.

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Re: Susie (# 11)

Walgreens changed it’s supplier and don’t get Watson 10/325 because they say it’s their supplier. I had problems with the Pharmacist telling me he would not stock Allergan the maker of Norco. So I called the head of Walgreens and filed discretion against Walgreens and the pharmacist and am gonna sue them both. Imagine the Pharmacist trying to make me look like a criminal when my Doctor prescribes it to me. See them in court.

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Re: John H (# 48)
I had changed Pharmacies from Walgreen’s to Walmart because Walgreens’s was serving the Actavis brand of hydrocodone 7.5. I was okay until the head of the Pharmacy department at Walmart went to part time and a new young guy was made the Pharmacy Manager. I brought in a prescription that I had filled there for 12 months and this new guy said he didn’t agree with my Doctor on my treatment plan. I asked him: Are you a Medical Doctor? Have you ever examined me? Do you have my medical records? Of course the answer is NO to every question but he still thought it was okay to supplant his opinion for my Doctors opinion. This person wanted to cut off all of my medication immediately with the exception of my blood pressure and cholesterol medications. I had to complain to Walmart’s management before I finally got this handled. However, this Pharmacist has caused so much grief by his constant harassing phone calls to my Doctors Office questioning everything they did that I am having to change Doctors because the Doctor that had taken care of me for 27 months just got fed up with the constant harassment and has refused to treat me any further. The Doctor said they would write bridge prescriptions until I could find a new Doctor and I have an appointment with a new Doctor soon. This whole situation has gotten out of hand.

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Re: cliff j (# 51)

No pills need any testing. Every PDR Physician Desk Reference shows the reformulation. I can't tell you what year exactly each different medication was reformulated, but if I had every PDR for each of the last 10 years it would show exactly when each medication was reformulated. That's all the evidence anyone would need as to what happened to the effectiveness of said medication.

There is no way anyone can be sued. A lawfirm looked at the whole thing and said basically Big Pharma can make whatever they want as long as the PDR shows it, pharmacists and doctors are made aware of it. This all happened! They also said, pretty much any federal civil court judge would toss the case at summary judgement and that would be that... They said, what they've done is all within the confines of the law. You can bet Big Pharma and the government lawyers spent hundreds of hours looking at this every which way possible for any culpability whatsoever! BTW I closed down a hospital and bankrupted them over what they did to me. If anyone had the money to go after these jackals it would be me! The lawfirm who won my case looked at this for me at several possible angles. To win a case against Big Pharma with government fingerprints all over it would be worth billions, but there is absolutely NO case whatsoever! Where they a pos for doing what they've done to suffering patients YES! Did they do anything that was ILLEGAL? NO! They can make and sell anything they want that doesn't harm or kill you. If you don't like the side effects don't take it! You have the choice not to buy or use it. No one is forcing anyone to take these drugs. Just because the drugs are less effective isn't illegal... If you don't like a product don't buy it, but you can't sue somebody because you don't like what they make or it doesn't work like you'd like it to...

They said, if it made it by summary judgement a very liberal jury might return a Verdict on them, but following the law the judge or appellate court would toss the Verdict and or case... Just because a jury or citizens are outraged by what they've done which is definitely underhanded. They've broken no laws except they are bad people for what they've done to pain patients. You can't win a case just because someone is characterless pos evil human being... If this was the case everyone would be suing everyone for being a bad person.

It was a doctor who told me about the oxytocin because he was upset that my pain was no longer manageable with today's reformulation using pills. He showed me in his PDR what they'd done. I'd have to take a phenomenal amount that could possibly kill me because of the ingredients they are using these days.

My only real option is palliative care. Having a subclavian catheter installed(that's a catheter installed into a subclavian artery off your heart) so I can inj. drugs. There's lots of drawbacks to that. I'd have to surrender my driver's license for good even though it's already a restricted license because of my disabilities, the maintaining of the catheter, more surgeries to replace it from time to time, will definitely shorten my life using those types of drugs. The list of drawbacks is enormous! But my pain would be managed. Not much of a good choice either way.

An infusion pump implant can't be used because it can't be regulated as I need more or less of the drugs as my nerves and spinal cord are irritated by massive amounts of scar tissue. A constant flow the pump provides doesn't fit my pain management requirements.

The only hope in all of this is to get the voting public aware of suicides because of pain not being properly controlled by new reformulated synthetic opiates. Millions of people have little to no quality of life. These are the only 2 things that will stop this from occurring! The voters demanding this be fixed is the only way it will be, but with the current FAKE opioid crisis the MSM pushes and governmental agencies like the DEA, CDC and FDA lying and cooking their books for a FAKE narrative this will continue until the voting public has had enough of their BS and lies! It's the only time anything ever changes when elections are in play... All of a sudden these lying backstabbing politicians get a consensus of reality that they need an angle to get re-elected and this is how this will eventually get fixed. Voters were angry decades ago that people's pain wasn't being properly managed so the politicians greatly lessened restrictions, oxycontin was born, other meds increased in dosage strengths and then boom all the addicts showed up and destroyed it for people like us! Then the voters screamed and the politicians jumped on the bandwagon and condemned the very people 18 years earlier the professed to help...

I've been in this 30 years now and I've watched it all unfold up and down. When I started in this it almost took an act of congress to get a schedule II opiate outside of a hospital in 1989. My doctor said it goes in cycles and that we're on the big downside once again. It goes in 15 to 25 year cycles. The late 70s and through the 80s until about 93-94 was the last big downturn against drugs. Then it relaxed until it got abused really bad until 2009 it started its downturn again... Each time it was the voting public who forced the politicians to change the regulations or lose their jobs and here we are again??...

I'm 60 now and don't have the time to wait for voters to get angry again and swing it the other way once again, so I'll probably get into palliative care and go the IV drug route because I really don't want to spend what few years I have left in bed or screaming out in pain scaring my wife to death because this has effectively destroyed her life and not just mine... It's strange how others never think about family members who have to watch helplessly while pain consumes and destroys the person they love! And the saddest part of all is the government destroying families and thinking they're helping! If a drug addict can't feel high on synthetic opiates they just find something else to abuse! SO WHAT DO LAW ABIDING PAIN PATIENTS DO? SUFFER...

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Re: Mark (# 53)
I do not know how many “opinions” you received from attorney’s. I have been told on different occasions that things were impossible and guess what? They were only impossible to the people that did not want to put in the necessary work. They all want the “lay downs”. The easy cases. They do not want to WORK . I was told many years ago when I thought that a Federal Judge had given someone a “legal sentence” that he was overreaching by sentencing everyone to the 5 year maximum ALLOWED BY STATUTE. I have no desire to relitigate this issue in this forum but the bottom line is this person appealed the LEGAL sentence and got released from prison because of the overreach of this Judge. Every attorney he and his family spoke with said this was a hopeless case and refused to file the proper paperwork so he filed it himself and won. It set precedent law throughout this Country. I do not have the energy to help this case along by getting Law Schools to become involved and use this case as a class project. Of all the things you mentioned you failed to mention that the prescribed amount of an opiate pill can be, for example, 7.5 mg and “Big Pharma” can dispense only 6 mg by law as they are allowed by law to dispense 20% less than they label says. No one knows for sure how much of the effective ingredient is being dispensed. Is it the 7.5 mg it says on the label? Is it 6 mg as allowed by law. You say you bankrupted a hospital? That means you collected whatever insurance money they may have had as the Bankruptcy would have discharged any responsibility the hospital had. It could potentially take every dime you have to bring this action and I know that your belief system would never allow you to take this action. If my friend had listened to all of the opinions he received before he just said I need to approach this from a different angle then he would have served several more months in confinement. He won what many attorneys said was an unwinnable case because he believed that the Federal Judge was not acting properly. I would cite where you could find this case in the Federal Reporter but it would disclose personal information that I do not have the authority to disclose. Laws were made to be changed and over turned because of the overreach involved but I would require tenacious litigation and a lot of money. Most people are not willing to spend the money and most legal firms would not file the case because of all the work involved. Getting a legal firm to take this case on a contingency basis is next to impossible if not impossible. They only want the low hanging fruit. To say that Corporations can do anything they want as long as they tell everyone what they are doing is just not right. It may not be popular but I know it is beatable under the right circumstances. The first step would be to convince a law school to litigate this issue as a class project. They take on the extremely difficult issues from time to time. I have seen the impossible done before and I will not accept a few legal opinions from lazy attorneys who are not willing to take on a fight. Granted, it may be an uphill fight but to say that it is unwinnable because these “Big Pharma Corporations” is telling everyone in advance what they are doing I just do not accept.

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Re: cliff j (# 57)

Like you & all of us victimized by this “behind our backs” reformulation trying to fool us all I’m in the same boat w/ my generic PERCOCET. I’ve tried many different manufacturer’s w/ the same outcome...ineffective & after 20yrs in pain mgmt w/ no problems the side effects are horrible from new filler compounds & formulations.

Thank you for this new reality of reduced oxytocin & reduction of active ingredient. I truly thought I was losing my mind!

There are in fact CPP Advocate groups working on our behalf. One great group is the NIH’s NATIONAL PAIN REPORT; Ed Coughlan is leading it. Research it, sign up & share your experiences.

Blessings to all!

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Re: cliff j (# 57)

There is hope for us all. In the meantime it’s so unfair we have to suffer at no fault of our own. We are LEGITIMATE CHRONIC PAIN PATIENTS that have been thrown into this “ring of fire!”

Source: "Pain Task Force Report Is Out – HHS Working to Give It Oxygen". Nationalpainreport.com. Web. June 2nd, 2019.

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Everyone who need this meds should complain! First the medical field floods the market giving these pills out like candy. Now with people who need these pills and take them responsibly have to suffer because these pill have fillers in them!

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Re: tony (# 62)

Who do you complain to? I don’t think they will listen. They are jerks.

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Re: cliff j (# 66)

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. It’s horrific, basically a barbaric act & worst thing without testing reformulation on legitimate CP patients. Definitely grounds for a class action suit. How dare they just change a medicine as if to deliberately flip with the result being a medicine that makes us sick on purpose. They won’t even publish the change, new one’s or less whatever the exact ingredients! What do we do??? How do we fight this? We write letters to gov’t, med professionals, FDA, DEA, CDC, we vent amongst ourselves but to what results?!? This is genocide.

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Re: Mejane (# 67)
What we have come to is a “perfect storm” of opposition from both sides of the aisle. This is why it is so difficult to get representation. The political climate is so awful that that no legal firm wants to touch this issue—even if you pay them their hourly fee. They are afraid of the political repercussions and the bad publicity from the public. Since the people in charge cannot get the criminally addicted they go after the low hanging fruit of the innocent chronic pain patient. They can then say “we are attacking the issue” when all they are doing is going after the innocent chronic pain patients, who, in the public mind (In General) are just as bad as the criminally addicted street addict. The pendulum is starting to slowly swing back because people are starting to recognize that if a problem is going to be corrected one must go after the real culprits. Not the innocent chronic pain patients.

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Re: cliff j (# 65)

Thank you for sharing your brilliant research. I’d read about the oxytocin reduction but wasn’t sure til I read your synopsis if it was factual or not...now cuz of you we know.

As we’re the one’s caught up hopefully temporarily suffering til our meds are back to “normal” let’s work on finding an oxytocin replacement to take along w/our “sugar pills.” There has to be a holistic supplement &/or an actual oxytocin over the counter med?

Time for us to put our “Chemistry Class” hat’s back on & get through this together everyone! We are the CPP ARMY; let’s win this battle!

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Re: cliff j (# 72)

Exactly! And we are those chronically ill patients Cliff. For years we exhausted every surgery, procedures, remedies; suffered with painful test after test, resulting in failed, live with it diagnose’s. Pain Management our only alternative & percocet got me out of a wheelchair at 26 yrs old; I’m pushing 60 now & have been able to live a tolerable functioning life...then BOOM like overnight our lives were changed at no fault of our own. What if a diabetic had their insulin taken away &/or medically altered—-same thing for us when u compare apples to apples.
I could vent on & on, but now what’s vital is we find some way to balance this; there has to be an oxytocin replacement out there somewhere?!?

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Re: cliff j (# 73)

Here we go, WalMart! Check out this link...

https:/­/­www.walmartpetrx.com/­p-697-oxytocin-100-ml.aspx

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Re: cliff j (# 76)

No, for sure you didn’t miss a beat. You are so informed & really a big help to all of us!

I should’ve elaborated; I put that out there to say it seems pets get more care & access to meds than we do!

In researching oxytocin today I think I found a supplement that may help us to take along with our med called OXIBOOST. I ordered it & will keep you & all informed of results. It’s worth a try anyway.

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Re: Cliff J (# 79)

AMAZON {aff link} has the OXIBOOST... $25.95 + FREE 2 day shipping. When you order be sure to check your order confirmation as soon as you receive it via email as they process orders within minutes. I had to have them redo my order cause 1st time around they “forgot” to apply the FREE shipping ;)

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