2012 Oxycodone 30mg Shortage In Florida (Page 3)
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My spouse, who is in severe, chronic pain, has been a customer of Walgreens for many years. We live in Pinellas County, Florida. Everyday this week we have driven from Walgreen's to Walgreen's trying to fill his prescription for Roxicodone 30mg, to no avail. I cannot get any help from his regular pharmacy. I know that it's dangerous for them to tell a total stranger which store has them in stock, but I don't understand since they know him, why they can't call around or give us any assistance. I am at a total loss as to what to do & would appreciate any information that you could provide. It is so hard to see him in so much pain. Thank you.

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@lawlady Thank you, its nice to know there are some people out there who don't judge someone simply on age alone. I agree with you add far as far as flatoms hurting choices as I stated in a previous post. Hope you have a great day! :)

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941Btown and jvc: I think you both show a great deal of strength and neither of you should ever be looked down upon just because you are not elderly and need medication to control your pain is that you may live normal lives. Flatom really dug himself a hole, saying all if HIS employees were drug Abusers, didn't he?? I mean, he knew they were into illegal activity and didn't fire them. So HE'S a criminal too! I'm sure we should all take the word of someone who hires junkies that ruin it for real pain patients...

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@JVK absolutely no apologies necessary :) I think we can all relate. Living with pain can be very frustrating & more often than not leads to depression & even anger. Especially when you can't get your meds & you desperately need them while others are paying upward of $700 to crooked pharmacists them turn around and either full up a spoon & needle or party for a few days then sell the rest. I've always said imo if someone is paying that kind of cash for their medication they must be selling them. who can afford that? I once had a pharmacist at one of those small mom & pop places tell me that my insurance wasn't enough, that he had my meds in stock & would fill my script, but he would run my insurance & I would have to pay $500. Out of pocket cash!! I was in shock! Surely this was illegal... Apparently its not! I told him, I wasn't selling my medication & that I would simply go to Walgreens where my insurance covered 100% of my script & they didn't practice shady business & play games with patients! I also knew a girl who was pulled over & searched. She & her boyfriend had 3 different types off pills on them & a junkie kit containing needless, spoons & i don't even know what else.... She said she thought fur sure they were going to be arrested, but that because their scripts were legal & there was no law about how to self administer your meds, they were free to go!!!?? Thus was about 3 years ago when illegitimate docs were rampant & you could go into a pharmacy & ask fir specific brands of oxycodone, pay the pharmacist tons of cash, get a bag of needless in with your script & be on your merry way. Thus was a HUGE problem. I'm glad the DEA stepped in, but the system us still flawed. Those who obey the laws & respect their medication can't seen to find a pharmacy to fill their scripts while people like the aforementioned bribe mom & pop places & walk out to a car full of waiting sponsors. It can be maddening! I understand your anger. My issue with flatom is simply the ignorance in his rants. It drives me crazy! He sounds selfish & narcissistic like no one under 50 should be prescribed pain meds unless they are dying. Its just an ignorant statement. One in which not much thought was put into. That makes me angry because to many people think like he does. I know plenty of 50 something pill addicts, like bad off. Abusing & selling their meds while I sit at home following my doctors orders suffering daily because he's afraid to write the only med that ever truly worked for me because of all the hear surrounding the oxycodone. Instead I'm forced into choosing between nothing & morphine. I hate the morphine. It stops working effectively rather quickly & makes me tired & sick. Iread that its but meant for long term use... So yes I understand your feelings & hope you do mine. Have a wonderful night, God Bless

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@941Btown, I understand all to well where you're coming from, not all of us look like we're suffering. We manage to keep it all inside, work hard, & care for our families. There is so much ignorance all around us. People who obviously know very little, to the pharmacists who think they can judge a cpp by looking at them & deciding if they will help based on looks alone. How sad our quality of life is in their hands. My apologies for going off on issues that might belong on another thread. When you're suffering needlessly, & feel alone, it sometimes gets the better of me.

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Thank you Lisa, taking care of my family is difficult due to my medical conditions. Giving my 6 year old daughter a bath & washing & conditioning her hair is extremely painful, bent over the tub kills my neck & back. Sweeping, mopping, dishes...all extremely painful. Sometimes it hurts so bad I can hardly take in a breath. All if this while on pain medication, if I had to try it without I'd just give up & my marriage & family would fall apart. My point its that there are people my age (35) who need this medication to have some quality of life. If you looked at my body, just my physical body you would never imagine I suffer so much on the inside. One should never judge the need for pain management based on looks & age alone. I don't walk around with my medical file, x-rays, blood tests & MRI stapled to my body. Just because I'm not missing a limb or.dying of cancer, God forbid, doesn't mean I don't deserve to be able to be comfortable playing with my kids & performing my daily tasks. I'm not rich, had to work fur everything I have & yes flatom my husband & I owned a furniture moving company. Just us two, no help. So I have worked & worked hard, just like you! But if you looked at me, I'd just be another undeserving junkie banned from pain relief. Thank God flatom & his "opinions" don't dictate who deserves meds & when they should be allowed to get them. I think a lot of us would be screwed!!

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@flatom Wow! I never said anything about your furniture business & the junkies YOU chose to employee. That was another poster. But while we are on theW subject...onder why that is? Maybe you payed them in pills, maybe it was a perk of being the boss...they knew they hook up spot! Yea not as stupid as you think huh? What respectable business owner highers nothing but pill heads? And don't say you weren't aware, because obviously you were well aware!
Another thing, respectable cpp don't go to pill mills with the other junkies, they go to board certified, accredited physicians & JVK is right you need a referral from your primary, an MRI & most pharmacies require insurance to fill scripts. Maybe you choose pill mills because they are the only place you can go where these things aren't required & you can get as many pills as you like. My Dr. is responsible, limits the meds he prescribes both in type & quantity.
I never meant to start a revolt against you, but you are just so ignorant (meaning without knowledge) You rant & rave because of things you have seen, obviously you have put yourself in these positions. Again, who hires a crew full of known junkies? Unless of course there is something to gain by this!! I can tell you this, if you step out of junkie town there its a whole world of legit cpp who follow the laws, prescription directions & wouldn't know who to sell their meds to even if they wanted to. I know pill addicts & how they operate. Its secluded little world where everything revolves around getting their next fix. They will steal, lie, cheat, beg & borrow to obtain a pill. Where I live its a damn epidemic among 35-45 year Olds. Most of the people I know however are now treated with suboxone or at the methadone clinic. Thus occurred when the DEA stepped in & closed down many Dr's offices & pharmacies. They are making a difference. I see it with my own eyes. I also however see the occasional seeker in the pharmacies so I am aware the problem still exists, but it isn't even close to as bad as it was about a year ago. I have suffered the repercussions of these people as my doctor will no longer prescribe oxycodone because of the stigma that surrounds the medication. It was a miracle drug for me. Now I spend my days exhausted, nauseous & lacking decent pain relief, but I am still very grateful for the relief I do get, I am not bitter because of the actions of some people who can't control themselves & would be addicted to something regardless. I do understand your point flatom but there are other ways to go about getting it across. I wish you wouldn't be so judgmental. You don't know me, I am not @$!#ing stupid as you so kindly suggested. I happen to be fairly intelligent both streetwise & bookwise! I am empathetic to your pain, but your harsh, rude, judgmental character make it difficult to sympathize with you.

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Thank you lawlady. Those that know the least, seem to have the most to say. I think most intelligent people know addiction can affect anyone at any age. I'm familiar with several young people who have become addicted. I also know several older people who are addicted too. Anyone @ any age, & from all walks of life can suffer from it. If you don't know what you're talking about, or are a judgemental jerk, no one wants to hear your garbage.

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By the way Flatom, I'm not from the south,nor did I EVER say no 18-25 year olds have problems with rx meds. You're the last person in the world I'd want to put words in my mouth. Also, you worked with, what, maybe 10 kids in that age range?? Yeah, I have worked with probably near 200. And the average is taken out of hundreds of thousands. If you still don't get that you are clueless, then I can't help you and YOU need to seek "metal help". And not only have you only worked with a few kids, but the people who normally move furniture for a living have little education, no real work skills and/or have criminal records, all which makes them more likely to abuse drugs. So, clearly, your ridiculous "focus group" is totally worthless as far as gauging the average age of Abusers. The FACT is that the average oxy abuser is older than 25 by several years. And I'M not getting that number from my own experience like you are- it's a simple, researched, surveyed FACT. Stop whining about your horrible circumstances and blaming others for your pain. Pain meds don't take away anyone's pain completely. No one feels sorry for you and no one wants to read your novel of complaining and gibberish.

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Flatom, it's always the most ignorant people who can't string together a coherent sentence that call others stupid. So ironic. And anyone who claims some guy that moves furniture knows more than a med student and addiction counselor about drugs is a moron. By the way, you can save your energy writing all that crap. I read the first sentence and do t bother with the rest because it's written so poorly it's unintelligible. Go back to school. And try stepping out of your furniture moving world- you have ZERO education on the subject and can't even google the average age of oxy Abusers, so you're clearly far too unintelligent for this conversation. Try going through three years of med school, then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation. You have to learn how to put sentences together first though, and get your head out of your butt. only a nut or an ignoramus would suggest a guy who moves furniture knows more about prescription medication addiction than someone a year away from being an MD.

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Your absolutely right about the reason they don't want to fill the 30's oxy's. They don't make any money on them and they are not worth taking the risk of giving them out. They don't want to end up with the DEA up their ass. It's just not worth it to them. So they have just stopped ordering it from the distributors. Just don't want to be on the hook, like Walgreens. So anyone on them has to stop and get suboxon to help with the withdrawals. I heard it can take months to get it out of your system and have you body back to normal and not craving it anymore. Scared.

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@flatom, misinformed about mail order dispensing meds, also need referral to pain mgt from primary Dr. Also need an MRI. Pharmacy won't fill without insurance. Do your homework before rewriting your whole life's story over & over & giving incorrect info.

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@flatom, we are very different in many ways. I choose to take 1 med, @ the least amt. to control my pain. I don't take oxycontin & roxycodone. You've posted same thing over & over. We know you had surgery etc. You're taking all that medication and still complaining of uncontrolled pain. I think most here are educated enough to know that no amt of pain med will give total relief. It will bring pain down to tolerable level. I refuse to add more medication. Why are you posting here when you're able to fill your presciptions? This forum is for people who can't fill roxycodone. You're misinformed BC this acquaintance IS able to get their roxycodone & morphine thru mail order. You're also misinformed that no referral is needed to see pain mgt. You need a referral & an mri. I've been w/ same pain mgt for 3 yrs, & they are cracking down & doing everything from monthly in house drug testing, to every other month sending specimen out for in depth analysis. Spell check your posts, & stop telling your story over & over again. Most of us wouldn't be posting in this forum if we were able to fill roxycodone.

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@941btown-maybe your just like lawlady who thinks they know it all. Moving furniture you say has nothing to do with it,But if you weren't so F Stupid you would read what I wrote that all the Kids that were 19 to 25 that worked for me moving furniture every single one of them were on Oxys or whatever they could get there hands on,maybe you an lawlady need to get together because it seems both of you know nothing

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@Lawlady-what i would Like to know Miss Mouth of the South-for one you say you Treat addicts so why the hell you on this page anyhow-you are not taking them or treating your so called addicts with them right,but you seem to think you know it all-it seems to me your Here for one reason is to find out where people can get there meds so you know where to go get yours,Cause if you say you treat addicts that is on pills then why are you even on Here,an I am sure I know more then you will ever Know-if you think that most people are 30yrs old has you said an like no 18 to 25yr olds have no problem with taking all these meds then you need to be seeking Metal Help Lady-I never ask you to read my messages an answer me back-because I could care Less what you think an really if your treating addicts B you have no Business on Here at all-this site is for people in chronic pain trying to get meds an then we get people like you coming on Here trying to say people younger then 30 Don't Take them-the Bulk is 30yr olds you say,well your the only personj on this Site that thinks that I know that cause everyone knows there are 18yr olds an up that are hooked on the pills or sales the pills,Period

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I agree with you mostly. I saw the other comments (yes you are right, lengthy). I have similar issues as you, as well as major back surgery, and I understand your type of pain and sympathize. I though have also had some problems with pharmacy's, eventually have them filled, but ugggg. I've shopped the same place for 20 years, meds changing, body changing. The pharmacy's have taken on more responsibility (which I understand), however I still believe the majority of the problem is with our state laws. They make it easy for those who don't need pain meds to get them. It has improved some (as you stated), however we have a long way to go. I think that the pharmacy's are afraid, understadibly, and it's not the best way to go. I also understand that If I were working there, I would not want to be robbed, or threatened by the dea. Seems much easier ways to control this issue, as many other states have implimented. I'm glad you are getting help to take care of the family, it's a chore. (smile).

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Flatom: I've seen drug addicts in all walks of life, not just at a clinic. You think because you owned a furniture moving company you know more than someone who works with addicts every day?? Your long rants aren't even readable. You don't know As much as you think- not even close. No one is impressed with your grammar, nor your "experience". Moving furniture is absolutely not relevant to experience with people addicted to pills. Ridiculous.

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941 BTown: I couldn't agree more! Flatom is very ignorant and judgemental, not to mention an ageist. It sounds like he's bitter and takes it out on everyone else.

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Flatom...you've been posting & reposting the same story over & over again for quite a long time now. What are you using the copy & paste? I'm pretty sure we got it the first 16 times you posted it. Surgery gone bad, mean nurse made you walk, rip sound in your back, junkie young adults never worked & don't know what pain is, .....boy oh boy. Join a support group or something. Please. I'm tired of having to scroll through mini-novels to read other peoples posts concerning what the topic is actually about. I've been reading this forum topic for almost a year & keep getting emails alerting me to a new post, every time it's the same thing rather than new info pertaining to the forum topic. Maybe you should start a new forum topic....just a suggestion... I'm 35 look younger, have a long list of medical problems including fibromyalgia, RA, Herniated discs w/nerve compression & was recently in a bad car accident. If you looked at me you would judge me as unfit for pain relief! Thanks to ppl like you many younger CPP are looked upon as junkies. I have no idea what's going on out there in the streets, IDC! I have never went to a pill mill. I am aware there was a problem, but the government has taken the steps necessary to curb the use & abuse of illegitimate docs prescribing unnecessary meds. It has worked! I believe the problem with infesting meds is now the pharmacists judging & denying everyone they don't know well based on looks & age as well as fear of repercussion from the DEA who limits what they can fill weekly/monthly. The DEA is crooked but what sense does it make that they would take bribe money from the docs just to turn around & place strict limits on the pharmacies.
Another thing, swimming pools kill x amount of kids each year as well as cars, OTC meds, fires, tobacco etc.... But no one is.crying foul & signing bills to make these things illegal or limit the amount of lighters, vehicles, pools, cigarettes & Tylenol you can sell each month. The responsibility lies with the consumer & in this case the patient, it's not BIG BROTHERS JOB to pick & choose what they will "ALLOW" to "KILL" us! Is our responsibility to use these products, items safely... Period!! If young adults are dying from overdosing on prescription medication they are to blame as well as the doctor because they are responsible for themselves & it's the docs responsibility to identify the signs of the abuser. FYI I have little no problem filling my scripts at Walgreens. I need my meds to take care of my children & husband, household etc... Sounds to me like if you were on the other side of the pharmacy counter I'd be SOL...and it would be the wrong judgment call on your part.

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@jvk-I know how you feel-opanas never did anything for me-you should tell your Doctor to give you imed release morphine 15mg an some long acting 30mgs they do better then opana-I wouldnt waste my time trying to fill them-I see you think like me an we are going through the same thing-I am 54yrs old an have had 2 major back surgeries an plates an screws in my neck an the 2nd back surgery the SOB cut me open 6in for some reason an nurse got me up 5hrs after when i couldnt even move in the bed an when I went to get up I felt something tear in my back an when I went to lay back Down I screamed the pain shot down my right leg an I told them an they walked out-after 2weeks I go to the surgeon to get the staples out an they send me to a Hip Doctor cause I wasnt able to lay on my back nor my right side an it took 6months to finally be able to an now my leg is numb,an my back is no better-I had a friend tell me to go to this pain management an they gave me 240 oxys-60 40mg oxycottins an 60 soma-plus 30 valium thats what they hand out to every person who walked into that office no matter how old there were,I saw kids 18 an 19 coming in there an getting the same scripts an they walked in just fine smiling an then I seen them run into the pharmacy when I was slow going in,they can run into the pharmacy-run on the beach-talk about all the Sex they Have an how they like shooting up the pills to get a High quicker,an its the Pill Mills that Florida is the only State that will allow them to stay in Business an pay the Dea office to stay open an then the DEA goes to pharmacies an checks out how many pills there giving out an then the walgrens I used was Banned from filling any pain meds cause they were giving out so many an even taking them to court,they put pharmacies in Business to fill scripts an then allow pill mills to write scripts of 240pill of one kind an 60 of others an then instead of shutting them Down they act like it the pharmacies fought cause they filled what a Doctor proscribed to people,so then they go everywhere to fill them an the DEA starts going to every place in town thats giving them out an checking the quality there handing out an they are only given so many now-in the 20yrs I was using the pharmacy I never had no problem filling any scripts until they let these sorry ass Pill mills set up an you don't even have to have a primary Doctor to send you to them like a real pain clinic has to have a referral from your primary,When the DEA office an whoever else allowed these paper pushers to get into Business is the only reason no one can no longer get there pain meds filled on a normal bases an not have to run all over from town to town to be told they Don't have them.they wonder why the courts are full of street level drug trafficing kids,well if they wouldnt have allowed the pill mills to open an get rich quick charging people 125 to 250.00 each month to give them 3 or 4 scripts with enough pills to kill a Horse,they could care less about the 21yr olds that have died from over dosing from the pills they gave them to take an then drink on top of them an drop dead,the parents should go after the pill mill for Murder 2 for giving there kids 12 to 13pills to take a day,thats more then Cancer people get thats dying-my son died an I was giving Him 2mg morphine every 20min an they will give these punks that there isnt a thing wrong with at all an have never worked a day in there life 12 to 13 pills to take a day that totals up to over 400mg a day,Soon there will be no pain meds in this State as long as the pill mills get to stay in Business an pay the DEA agents off every month that come into there office so they can stay in Business-when there making 50.000plus a Month from everyone they dee they can afford to pay them off to let them stay in Business an making all these Kids who have no Business taking pain meds just getting them to sale so there sorry lazy ass don't have to go out an get a job like the rest of us had to do,there are kids in all childrens Hospital an people with Cancer that don't get the amount of Drugs they Hand out to people,You can Drive around anywhere now an see young kids on the beach running an swimming an being on these pills -I cannot run or swim like I would Like to,I am lucky to get out of my Bed,Just Like others on Here that think I Don't have a clue what I am talking about,they only say they Treat Drug addicts that come to see them-I ran a Business an went through over 50 young Kids moving furniture ages 19 to 26 an every single one was on oxys an then when they couldn't get them they would shoot whatever they got there Hands on,an i was told the Bulk of people on them are 30yrs old an I know Better,I guess if there treating addicts then they must not be in pain or they wouldnt be in the program for being an addict now would they,the pill mill I went to was giving me before I left when I found they Didnt do shots I was taking 4 oxycottin 80mg an day an 14 30mg oxycodone an it took some of the pain away but not all of it with all that,people who knew what I took said thats enough to put a Horse Down-I didn;t have no High feelings an wasn;t taking them for that reason,after back surgery I stopped the 30s all together after the 2nd back surgery i stopped the 80s even though I was still in chronic pain cause all I wanted to do was take my gun out an get it over with,so i got off on my own,just a Mind over matter,now I am on morphine 15mg an 30mg an I am always in pain cause I only take 2 15 a day an one 30 cause I dont want to mess my heart up any more then it already is with conjested heart failure,These Punks thinks its all fun an games to get High an Have a Laugh an after there Hooked an they Didn't have pain they will when they dont have them from the s*** thats in them,then they will feel real pain an wish they never started going to pill mills to get the Drugs if they live long enough to talk about how stupid they were,I wish to God I wasn;t on anything because it Does destroy your Body an your Brain an Drives you insane when you cannot find them,an the longer they let pill mills continue to stay open the worse its going to get-you cannot get Mail order pain meds in florida No more that stopped 7months ago or more,

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I'm in a time warp, It was several wks ago, BC I was without med for 10 days. I also asked the person who worked in pharmacy what happened to pharmacist.. he was fired! I bet he was fired BC he helped only a few patients every month. We had developed a trusting relationship over the last year. A good person who helped a handful of people. I look @ pharmacists a little differently now. There are some who want to help us. They're losing their jobs in doing so. They're also being punished along with most of us. This last nightmare taught me that lesson.

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