10/325 Quailiest Verses Watson Verses White Or Yellow (brand Name Norco) (Page 2)

Hello Hydrocodone world:

My experience is this. You can not beat Name Brand scored NORCO 10/325. However, my experience is Watson is a softer compound, & works faster. Now, the other generic NORCO 10/325 (36 01) scored other side. This is made by QUAILITEST: many people say they suck, because in fact, it is a harder compound to digest/desolve, therefore not getting a good feeling,but the slight slower release makes Quailiest (NORCO) actually kill the pain more so than Watson (GENERIC) 10/325. The watson have the edge, however the Qualitiest last longer & are so dang close, only a Dog may know the difference. Personally me, & all the 4 companies that make generic NORCO can stick it. Your/My Dr. is going to request the yellow dye, I do get allergic reactions minor,but enough to b**** about. So I will be getting a lot of paper work, and I will end up getting Yellow NORCO, as long as the Dr. request patient has allergic reactions, not to the dye, but rather various fillers, as well. And me & My g/f have Identical insurance plans for meds. And the G/f got the real deal NORCOS. My Dr respects me & I respect my Dr. And dr.'s know the difference between spinal issues & hop heads or some of us have both. LOL (JOKE).

Now the HOT tip - NORCO Now makes two Brand name NORCO 10/325 , some will be yellow & or white. Watson makes NORCO ( BRAND NAME) wich are yellow. Also Watson now makes the 1/325 NORCO it is white.

Bottom line (brand name 10/325) you will start to see in white & yellow, as we are now seeing, allergic reactions to the yellow color dye. Also 10/325 NORCO are usually yellow, again they are moving to white tablets, and are currently selling both colored (WATSON GENERIC) norcos. Same goes for Brand name NORCOS, Yellow & white.

They are taking the yellow dye out both Name brand & watson brand NORCOS. You may see yellow & or white in your Watson 10/325 also Brand name 10/325

Ask your Dr for a over ride due to alergic reactions, most insurances will cover , if the findings of the request are found to be true. But now they are making the same company, same drug, Brand name & generic & in both white & or yellow (watch out for (CVS pharmacies) they carry s*** loads of s***, that is totally the s*** of all s*** & works like s***. Request brand name to your Dr & ask nicely & all the above will not apply. Watson's are etched in most peoples mind, however the Quailitest & watson are just how fast or slow the absorbtion rate/time to get into the blood stream. If you really want this Norco in your blood stream like instantly? LOL Check in to a 28 day drug rehabb & ask this? what is the fastest way to get any drug into my blood stream? Than youll be safe for 28 days, if they let you out. (JOKE).

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I did as one of many side effects. I took them for 2 years no problems then all of a sudden the side effects started. Had to change to name brand. It just stinks that they are jacking with the Medes and making us, who need meds legitimately, sick.

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I picked up white Norco 10/325 yesterday and it's like taking a Tylenol. I took 2 pills and still nothing. My shoulder is injured with torn rotator cuff. I'm waiting for surgery. This sucks. I'm sick to my stomach. I feel like crap. What gives?? Last week I had yellow pills and I wasn't sick and could tolerate the pain. So not cool. I called the pharmacy and they said they don't make the yellow pills anymore. Just like that? What do I do? Suffer.

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Sorry to hear about the ongoing pain. I had to have my entire left shoulder replaced, so I know about shoulder pain. I now have a steel rod connected to a steel ball in the socket for rotation. I also had to have my left knee replaced. I take 4 Norco every day for pain. The 10/325 YELLOW-In other words, your pharmacy is telling you a big lie. The yellow is still being made and sold, but you now have to find them, as the white ones are cheaper for the pharmacies. They make more pushing the useless white Norco, so that's what they all went to. The standard line, which is complete bs, is that the white and yellow are the same. They are not. They say they only took the yellow dye out to keep some people with food color problems from getting sick. What crap. How many people get sick from food color? A small pill with a very small amount of yellow dye is not enough to hurt anyone. Hell, we get food color in all our foods!

The real reason is, the drug maker thought they could get away with removing the codeine from the pills and nobody would know. lol-good luck on that one. What your left with is Tylenol! So, if you have a refill left, don't take it to the same pharmacy to be filled. Call around, to all your local pharmacies, starting with the smaller, mom and pop type stores first, and ask if they carry the yellow Norco. If they don't, then just call another until you find one that does. The big chains, like Walgreens and Walmart all switched to the white ones, to save money. So, start small and keep calling. I get nothing but yellow Norco every month, but right now, there's only two pharmacies in my town, that still have them. And, when this all happened, they got flooded with new customers! Which they love! But, be warned, when you find the pharmacy that has them, call in your refill about 3 days early. The reason being that the pharmacies that still have the yellow ones are flooded with customers, and they are not able to always have enough as the Feds only allow them to stock so many at a time.

This is all part of the new government crackdown on pill abuse. They just upgraded Norco into the same class of drugs as morphine! Very stupid thing to do. It's now a schedule 2 narcotic, it used to be schedule 3. Now all Hydrocodone products like Norco and Vicodin are considered to be as dangerous as morphine! What a joke! Because of the new schedule 2 drug category, Norco and all other hydrocodone meds have to br refilled with a new hand carried rx from the doctor. In other words, your refill can't be phoned into the pharmacy anymore. No schedule 2 drugs can. You will need to go pick up a new rx from your doctor about 3 days before it's time to refill. Call them first. But, first, call around to find the pharmacy that has the yellow Norco. Your doctor will need to know who your getting them from. Now, there is an exception to the no-call rule. If your doctor is on the list of E-Verified doctors and if the pharmacy has that program set up, then the pill refill can be transmitted electronically. My doctor does this for me. I'm on the automatic refill list, so I just go in every month to get them at the pharmacy. Ask your docor if they do that or if you need to come get a paper rx to walk into the pharmacy. Hope this helps-good luck, and let your docotr know the white Norco do nothing! The company making them should be sued to pieces and shut down! Accept no more white Norco!!

Nobody is wanting the white Norco-their junk. Good luck, don't give up, they're out there, just call around, small store first.

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Re Percocet/Activis - Due to severe chronic pain syndromes, I've been on Percocet for years; had severe reactions when Activis took over Watson and now can only take brand name - the cost is unbelievable; I filed complaints with Activis, the FDA, the State of Florida, the DEA, etc., as much as I could. This is not a "new" drug which pharma charges for their "R&D"; chronic pain patients are running out of options and I believe this is a constitutional issue as the government allows pharma companies to adversely affect our health and those in power have allowed "abuse deterrent" meds which have no value whatsoever to those in need be the main issue rather than protect our right to quality healthcare and doctors who would otherwise treat us are disappearing because of fear of being investigated and/or arrested to treat and manage pain patients or anyone who is released from surgery, dentists, all forms pf painful diseases. I sign petitions whenever I can - this is a valid cause for so many people but an issue we rarely see in the media until a person finds themselves sufffering in pain.

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Qualities makes the yellow. The white are SH*# alright. I get the yellow at Walmart. Call around and ask. Don't let them treat you like you are nuts and they are all the same because it's a lie.

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I woke up in severe pain. My pain was gone with 2 yellows but it was too much so I could only take 1 1/2 at a time. I took 2 whites and I feel NOTHING. I know this is a scam. I'm pissed off and in so much pain!! What do I do? My doctor is going to think I'm crazy! I would rather take 2 5/325's at this point. I want to cry. This is not good medicine. Do the doctors know this is happening??

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I just got off the phone with Walgreens. They sold me these white 10/325 Actavis Norcos that are worthless. The pharmacist told me I was building a tolerance to the med and that's why they are not working. She told me to take more of them, up to 12 pills a day if needed. What???? I couldn't believe she said that! I told her I took Qualitest yellow pills earlier this week before I ran out and they helped the pain and I only took them as prescribed. She said my pain tolerance is probably increasing due to physical therapy. What?? I didn't tell her I started PT yet. She said no patients ever complain about these pills. Because I mentioned the yellow pills indicates that I may be addicted!! Yes, she just said that. What the heck is going on. I know my body. These pills are crap. I'm pissed off. I have some older Vicodin from a few years ago that I'm taking now that are actually helping. I know these pills are junk and because I have pills from a few years ago should prove I'm not an addict!! Make the pain go away!!! Liars!! I called my doctor. It's Saturday so good luck Charlie.

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We patients are the only ones in the dark about what is going on with the pain meds in this country. What upsets me is that we are treated like junkies if we question anything.
If it was insulin that had such a huge difference in the amount of medication from different manufacturers people would listen. But pain management is looked down on. If I had a choice I would not be on any of these pain pills but I can't live in constant pain. Because so many folks are abusing these medications we are all colored with the same brush. It is sad.

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Right On! Its completely true, this is craziness
And I'm sick of spending the money and paying for crap, and dealing with this every couple of months. Things are so regulated now so why are these companies getting away with this!

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Your awesome! to take it to that level and I feel for you completely, I've been through a lot myself, because of the fear that the FDA has put in these doctors, but all the while they're able to put people through crap like your case, I've been over looked, treated like a criminal or an addict and fel through the cracks or under treated many times because of the regulations now a days, it's not right for people like us who suffer with real pain every day, luckily after two years I've found a great pain specialist who understands that pain must be managed to live a functional exsistance, I'm not saying I still don't have symptoms but at least I can do some things.
Good luck and take care

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Not sure whos making the white generic Norco. It could be Mallinckrodt , and probably is. I know the yellows are still made by Qualitest, and they still work good. Finding them is the challenge now. But, I wrote them and they have no plan to stop making them. When the government made Norco a schedule 2 drug this year, they put this drug in the same class as very strong pain meds like morphine sulphate, which is really dumb. So, one company making yellow Norco decided to get real gready and take advantage of the new law to line their pockets even more. Using the anti drug sentiment, they took their yellow Norco and reformulated it. The company line to the public is that all they did was remove the yellow dye and nothing else. Well, anyone that has taken Norco for a while can easily tell the difference between the new bogus white and the yellow.

But, this company used the new law and the governments scare tactics to their own advantage to pad their cash flow. They took out the active ingredients that kill the pain. This saves them alot of money. They tell the government and DEA what a responsible company they are in this war on drugs, and it's complete bs! They could care less how many people get strung out as long as the bottom line looks good.

But, they are now pushing useless pills on the public and most people buying the generics are on some form of government health program, like Medicaid or Medicare and this is one big ripoff on the American taxpayer! This company is selling worthless drugs to the American taxpayers with chronic pain. They are making billions from the federal programs and pushing useless medicine on people. I have written this company, Mallinckrodt, to complain about these white Norco when they first came out, and my local pharmacy gave me them instead of my yellow ones.

They contacted the pharmacy and, that pharmacy has seen a huge drop in business as people are leaving them to go where they have the yellow pills. Hopefully, everyone will do this, and the pill maker will go back to making the pills the right way. Otherwise, just don't accept them. Before the pharmacy gives you the pills, ask if their yellow. If not, just refuse them and go some place else. Just call around, there out there. Eventually, the pill maker will make the change back. They scammed the feds and all of us, and it's time we simply pushed back and refuse to take the white Norco. They are good for nothing but a mild headache.

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My dad was released from the hospital yesterday after a 3 week ordeal after a bowel obstruction, surgery to cut and resection his small bowel. His wound did not close properly creating a fistula that ripped open his staples. His wound is hideous and the most painful thing I've witnessed someone to endure. Upon discharge Kaiser of California denied him pain meds. The doctor argued with me. Said Tylenol would be sufficient. Wtf???? This is his 3rd bowel osbatruction. The 2 procedures he went thru were not as bad as this one and they gave him Percocet or Norco without question. (2010 and 2014). These doctors are governed by cruel agencies. I was and am still shocked.

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I would complain to the director of that hospital, or to whoever the doctor reports to. This is medical negligance. They are purposely putting your dad in pain for no reason! I have neighbors that get morphine pills every month from their doctors for alot less then that. Just keep complaining or take him to another docor.

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Here's a response to an email I sent to Dept. of Health: FYI

Good morning,

Your e-mail has been received by the Department of Health/Consumer Services Unit. If you would like to file a formal complaint against a licensed health care provider, or a complaint for unlicensed activity, please click on the link below. Download the complaint form, complete and return to our office. Your complaint will then be assigned to an investigator.

floridahealth.gov/licensing-and-regulation/enforcement/index.html

Thank you,

Rachel Beam
Government Analyst II
Consumer Services Unit
Telephone: 850-245-4444 ext. 8330
Fax: 850-488-0796
Customer Satisfaction Survey

From: Nancy
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 2:15 PM
To: zzzz Feedback, MQA_ConsumerServices (MQA_CSU) [email protected]
Subject: Denied legitimate pain medication prescriptions over 2 years

6/19/3015: Pharmacist "not comfortable giving me the pain medicine and jeopardize his license" (my pharmacy manager did the review and ordered my monthly prescription which was in the safe with my name on it - suffered 10 days with pain meds and it cost me to have hit home delivered. This now goes on monthly.

11-2014 to 1/2/15: videos of being denied filling legitimate medically necessary prescription

6/2/13: Walgreens has my records for over 20 years for my severe chronic pain medications. In December 2012 and now again last week of May 2013, I was unable to fill my monthly prescription; Walgreens’ response (many different ones):

(1) not in supply;
(2) on back order;
(3) no idea when Oxycodone 10 will be available;
(4) distribution center has their request;
(5) was lied to by the many Walgreens’ pharmacies I physically went to;
(6) Walgreens’ Corporate office in Tempe Arizona has “no control”;
(7) (Reuters) - The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) said it shut down shipments of controlled substances from Walgreen Co's (WAG.N) Florida distribution facility on the suspicion that highly addictive painkillers were being diverted to the black market.

At Walgreen's, they have no supply, won't know when they will. I should be able to get it at any Walgreens nationwide; after going to 15+ stores, my normal script was refused. I'm not on Day 6 of Oxycodone withdrawal, no options - no hope of managing my disabling pain. I contacted Walton, the manufacturer of Percocet (Oxycodone) who have no shortage and able to supply any pharmacy. WE NEED TO FILE A LEGAL CASE AGAINST THE PHARMACIES AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES WHO INCLUDED ALL PAIN PATIENTS IN THEIR "DRUG DIVERSION" program (PDMP), including Florida's Governor, State Attorney, the DEA, CSA, NIDA, DOH, AHCA, Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations that is responsible for "rolling back prescription drug diversion & by passing HB 7095 during the 2011 Florida legislative session ...banned dispensing of Schedule II & III controlled substances by physicians... added several critical criminal violations to support enforcement,..." which is a result of the PDMP (Prescription Drug Monitoring Program). I believe all entities responsible have abused their powers, including discrimination, violated and failed to protect legitimate pain sufferers' civil rights, tortiously interfered with & invaded our right to privacy & ability to receive proper medical care, caused us additional pain & suffering, anxiety, fear, undue duress and stress, as well as numerous other damages, both financial and physical. Also failed to properly protect all physicians who have not broken any laws in providing their patients with the best medical care they are entitled to. We have lost qualified, law abiding physicians many of which are unable to continue to practice under the deficient "Plan" to divert medications and various regulations placed to reduce criminal activity. For over 40 years, law enforcement has never been successful in deterring illegal drugs & this PDMP may alter how criminals will continue their business; BUT IT DID SUCCEED IN SERIOUSLY AFFECTING LAW ABIDING CITIZENS who are now being treated like criminals & became victims of their regulations and policies.

Nancy

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If you have a legal rx and Walgreens won't fill it, go somewhere that will. You have the right to buy the meds anywhere you want. The yellow Norco is no longer available at Walgreens, I tried. Or Walmart or any other big name chain pharmacies. But, they are available at some smaller stores. If they are withholding your meds, then they're wrong, and you should be talking to a supervisor or a lawyer. Let your doctor know about it.

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I get yellow qualities that nor I at Walmart every month. Illinois

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Target carries the yellow qualitest - at least here in Vegas

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You're a horrible person. Just cause someone is over weight what gives you the right to make fun and say things like obese carts - you realize that many heavy people struggle every day to get healthy and they don't need horrendous people like you tearing them down every chance they get - I really wish I could see what you yourself look like cause I'm willing to bet if you're not heavy yourself you're not not gods gift to the world - one thing to remember, overweight people can work to try to make a change but if you're ugly you can't fix that - also if you are gods gift with looks, as soon as people get to see your dark heart to humanity and people struggling with how they were raised or low self esteem, you will be alone - and that's what people like you deserve - in the future why don't you try to uplift and help and not be a c***.

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Not your business -

Who are you talking about? Did you post in the right thread? I see nobody talking about weight problems here. This is about Norco and the lack of them. Also, to those that are finding easy access to the yellow Norco, be very thankful, as in the West, they are getting very tough to find.

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I have a written prescription today in Rancho Cucamonga, CA. I'm going to take it to Target. Keep you posted on whether they fill it with Qualitest yellows or not.

Not an weight loss thread.

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