Oxycontin 80 Mg Op Are They The Same (Page 2)

I recieved oycontin 80 mg but instead of oc on the side it has op?
Any information would help.

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for me these new op's are messed up in a way we all need them to get through are day yes we abuse them and yes we take them for real pain and yes the new one arent the best but it will be just like the rest of the other generics make anoughf noise and the real ones will come back cause who ever makes them will losse to much money or they just wont care why would they the rich get richer and the poor get poorer but for all that need them and want the real ones look for the small town mom and pop places u might get lucky there and if any one figures a way to do the new ones besides the mic or the oven with salt water let me know

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I'M SICK OF THE MESSAGES WRITTEN BY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN PAIN SAYING THINGS LIKE ONLY THE TERMINALLY ILL SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TAKE OXYCONTIN. THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH PAIN I'M IN!
I TAKE MY MEDS AS I AM SUPPOSED TO. I HAVE NEVER ABUSED THEM. BUT NOW PURDUE HAS CHANGED THE FORMULA SO WE LEGIT USERS HAVE TO SUFFER. THE NEW OP's ARE NOT NEARLY AS EFFECTIVE AS THE OC's WERE AND THEY TAKE 2 TIMES AS LONG TO KICK IN.
ALSO, I AM ANGRY THAT MESSAGE BASES LIKE THIS ONE ALLOW THE VAST MAJORITY OF POSTS TO BE WRITTEN BY ABUSERS WHO COMPLAIN THAT THEY CAN'T SNORT THEM OR GIVE ADVICE AS TO HOW SCRAPE OR OTHERWISE DEFEAT THE ANTI-ABUSE PORTION SO THEY CAN SNORT THEM. DON'T YOU HAVE ANYONE MONITORING THE POSTS? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? I WANT TO READ INPUT PERTAINING TO HOW LEGIT USERS FEEL ABOUT THE NEW OXY'S AND HOW WELL THEY WORK. AND REMEMBER PURDUE HIRES PEOPLE TO WRITE LIES; ERGO THE POSTS SAYING HOW THE NEW OP's KILL PAIN JUST AS WELL AND THE SEE NO CHANGE.
PURDUE HAS ALWAYS LIED WITH REGARD TO IT LASTING 12 HOURS. I HAVE BEEN TAKING OXYCONTIN FOR 6 YEARS AND TALKED TO HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE; THE AVERAGE TIME THEY WORK IS 7-8 HOURS AND THEY TAKE AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 2 HOURS TO KICK IN. AND THAT IS/WAS THE OC's. DID YOU KNOW THE FDA ALLOWS A 20% LEEWAY WITH DOSAGE. SO IF A DRUG WERE TO SAY IT WAS 100MG THE MANUFACTURER CAN LEGALLY GIVE YOU ONLY 80MG IF THEY SO CHOOSE. THAT IS LIKELY ONE OF THE REASONS THE NEW OP's DON'T KILL THE PAIN NEARLY AS WELL. PURDUE PHARMA USED TO BE PRETTY MUCH A STANDUP COMPANY ASIDE FROM THE 12 HOUR LIE. NO MORE! THEY SAW THE NEW ANTI-ABUSE THING AS A WAY TO MAKE MORE PROFIT AND WENT FOR IT.

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your right c.w. the only people thats going to suffer with this change are the legit pain people.still its the legit pain people that sell to the abusers(some of them anyway). i read on one of these pages where someone made up 60% of her income off of these pills.she complains that now she cant pay her bills.this makes me wonder just how much pain was she in.we; now suffer because of these people. i wish these people could have been weeded out in a differant way. im stuck i know theres not a replacement for the oxicontin,i will just have to make them work. no they dont work the same,i went from being able to walk some to being in my wheelchair all the time now.i have to sleep in my recliner because my wheelchair wont pass the door frame to the bedroom.

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reply to Legitpain:

Apparently you don't know what the word legitimate means. People in REAL pain do not get enough pills per month to handle the pain as is. Lord knows that is my case! I sure as hell am not going to sell any of them! When you say "still its the legit pain people that sell to the abusers (some of them anyway)" you are full of s***! People who do this are NOT legit by any standard and NOT in REAL pain. Sometimes I wish I could reach through my monitor and throttle people who make statements like you just made. You read on ONE of these pages where some person said such and such and call them a LEGIT OXY USER; well big fracken deal! Are you a moron? Or is that or you have a hard time articulating your thoughts using the English language. That may part of the problem considering the amount of grammatical errors and misspellings you made in your reply to me. Yes, I sometimes make them too but it is because I am half blind, in excruciating pain and I have very bad debilitating peripheral neuropathy in my hands. My fingers don't go where I want them to. I used to type 64 words per min. now I have to hunt and peck. It has taken me 15 minutes to type this much. I can barely button a shirt up. You are simply not very literate.

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I want the name and an e-mail from the person who edited my post! First you replace a word I wrote with s*** I have seen worse swear words on here many times. But then you remove quotation marks from a sentence which I put there to show it was NOT my sentence. I am too tired to look for any other changes you may have made. DO NOT edit any more of my posts you creep! If you have a problem with a post I write then do not change things which are pertinent to the post. In the body of my post I wrote-- When you say still its the legit pain people that sell to the abusers (some of them anyway) -- YOU left out my quotation marks, --There was a reason for those quotes! It was to show I did not write that part.
So you ARE monitoring posts. This means you have no problem that the vast majority of what is written is posted by abusers advising how to render the new pills snortable or otherwise telling ways to defeat the anti-abuse aspect of the new pills. You creeps have no problem with this yet you edit out a simple swear word like sh*t that every 4 year in the country knows.
I have stated this before asking if anyone monitored this lame message base. Well, we now know they monitor individuals. You can bet my posts are flagged for review. They cannot handle the truth. So if I disappear you will know why. OH DEAR, WHAT A LOSS FOR ME THAT WOULD BE! HA HA HA!

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To: Wow....listen Up Well But Dnt Abuse... I really cant stand it when people like you actually search for people with a real serious problem and say crap like that to pick on them! We are all merely stating that because of the addicts/dope fiends/lames we have to suffer because believe it or not, this new formulary does make people very ill. Yes I have been on oxycontin 80 mlgm for 4 long years, and you are absolutely right, there is a dependency issue. There is expected to be one as this is a highly addictive drug. However, those of us who have cancer, or other chronic pain, have to have something just to maintain existance. Not living, but existance. It helps me to be able to barely tolerate getting out of bed. Without it, I wouldnt even be able to do that. This discussion is for people who have a problem with this medication. So for you to even involve yourself in it, you would of had to search for this chat/blog by typing it in a search engine. Hmmm, could it be that you are one of those idiotic dope fiends that are making it hard on us? Yeah, you got it right, you really should listen to yourself. Get a life, and stop sweatin' everybody because you are mad at the world for being born.

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Dear C.w,

Thanks for writing in and for your "expressive" posts. While you are correct that the s--t word is no big deal in and of itself, we typically sensor swear words due to requirements from our ad partner(s). And without our ad partners we would have no way of paying for the overhead of maintaining the community.

As to monitoring posts, we basically have certain filters in place which flags a post for manual review before appearing on the site (as you have seen). And the quotes went missing from your earlier post by accident (we have reinstated them as you can see now).

Anyways, rest assured, we're not watching or coming after you. Actually we don't even know your true identity... So no worries there LOL.

~ Best regards

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medschat Admin Says: [Site Admin] Tuesday, 9/21/2010 2:01:39 PM

Dear C.w,

Thanks for writing in and for your "expressive" posts. While you are correct that the s--t word is no big deal in and of itself, we typically sensor swear words due to requirements from our ad partner(s). And without our ad partners we would have no way of paying for the overhead of maintaining the community.

<<<>>> I understand but define for me "expressive" in this context. Sarcasm?

As to monitoring posts, we basically have certain filters in place which flags a post for manual review before appearing on the site (as you have seen). And the quotes went missing from your earlier post by accident (we have reinstated them as you can see now).

<<<>>> Thank you.

Anyways, rest assured, we're not watching or coming after you. Actually we don't even know your true identity... So no worries there LOL.

<<<>>> Oh yeah I'm REAL worried. Now we get the sarcasm that I am paranoid. Also we find out I am likekly talking to a woman or a gay person because of the use of LOL.

~ Best regards
<<<>>> Back to you.

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Reply to C.w.
Up untill now i believed your story of pain.now i see you're a fake and a fraud.Everyone i know with severe pain can not turn to anger,because anger will increase pain.As for my grammer that i don't use,its because to use my right arm causes pain.I don't use that arm when its not necessary.I type left hand only.I've taught myself to be lefthanded because of the pain.
You sit there in you're golden computer chair,all high and mighty of yourself believing your pain is far worse than anyone else.Then you pretend to believe that people are not selling their pills.How do you think the addicts get them? They can't get a prescription for them,so they buy them from someone that does.On other sites people are writing formulas on how to break down the op's.how they love the challenge that Perdue has given them.Don't sit there and pretend that you have not read these.Since anger does not increase your pain,then get angry about the real reason it has come to this.
You say you can't type as much due to the pain,yet look how much you have typed.You have made threats,demands,wishes of coming through the monitor,foul language,and verbally abusive.Your a fake and you have proved that with your lies.You anger proves that your pain meds are working for you.I believe that you crush your pills and angry that you can't crush them anymore.Your a spoiled brat,and mad because you have no controll over the op's.You have serious controll issues and turn to abuse to get your way.Do you honestly believe that Perdue wants to lose the money they are losing when people change to something else.Since your so smart why have not read the real reason that Perdue has had to make this change? Don't bother with a reply i have more important issues to use my energy on.

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Lasy yeer I broke my back and fractured 5 vertabrae. I am in pain 24-7 and the only relief I had are the oxycontin oc's,at my last refill the pharmysist told me the meds were slightly different and other wise should react the same as the oc's vs the op's,,I don't sell my pain medication for any reason and also dont abuse them, and take them as prescribed Well the OP's stlye of the drug didn't seam to work AT ALL and I started going through withdrawls at the very first few hours that I stared on the new OP's.If it wasnt for the fact that I also get the fast acting Roxycodone in 30 mg 6 time per day for break through pain I would be completely miserable.an the only thing the oxycodones do is keep me from going into full out withdrawls and doesnt keep up with the pain. I'll be asking my doctor to completley take me off the ocycontin op's and double my dose of the oxycodones. The only thing the oxycontins original oc's were for conviences as not to have to take so many pills. As of now I get 30 mg oxycodones 180 pills/month 6 per day plus 60 mg oxycontins twice a day. I'm going to give it a try and see how it works out for me. I will post aging and let ya'll know. Hopefully takeing 2 pills per dose will do the trick we'll see and agin I'll let you people know if it works out for me....and besides the Roxycodones are only 1/4 the price of the oxycontin op's that don't work any ways

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First off, I apologize to those of you in real pain, as i abuse narcotic painkillers, but damn yall are angry! I'm sure i would be too and would probably also want to reach through the screen and strangle someone like me. Anywayy, i suggest trying Opana if you already haven't. 40mg of Opana is supposedly equal to 80mg of oxycontin when it comes to pain relief and is surly much stronger with the OP's. Based on what i've heard and experienced, before the OP's oxycontin was the best bet for most people, but now Opana will likely provide more relief, even if it's not as pleasant or yall aren't used to it. Good Luck!
- Lou

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Hi everyone. This is the first time I have ever posted here as well as the first time I have actually taken the time to read every post on a thread from beginning to end. Wow. Everyone is certainly opinionated, to say the least. I am 43 y/o and have been dealing with pain from chronic renal disease since well before being diagnosed about 6 1/2 years ago. I was on Oxycontin back in 2005 for a couple years before deciding to wean myself off. That was horrible! Almost two years ago now, I had to go back to them due to increased pain that I could not seem to manage with other meds. I could not afford them. I was accepted into the Patient Assistance Program where now Purdue provides them to me free of charge. What a blessing that was. There are definately differences in this new version. Per the pharmacist that I spoke directly with at Purdue, they say the only difference is perhaps nausea and vomitting caused by the newly added inactive ingredient, butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT). The nausea and vomitting is a side effect to some patients from the BHT. Other than this, they admit to no additional differences. I am deciding now if I should try Opana instead. My doctor is very helpful and I am certain he would not want me to be any sicker than I already am. My only concern is that when I did try Opana, in the past, I did not think it was nearly as effective as the original Oxycontin. I do take the 30 mgs for break through pain but anticipate that the same thing will be happening to them in the near future. We may use whatever words that we choose, but as a legitimate patient with legitimate medical issues and pain, I know that I am addicted, tolerant, or whatever other word may apply. I cannot function without strong opiates. That is a fact. Without them, yes, I would face certain horrible withdrawals but also horrible daily pain. I cannot live like that ever again. I don't believe it would be fair to think I should even try. As far as drug abusers out there. I am not so stupid as to believe for one minute that you will stop abusing drugs because of these recent actions taken by the FDA, Purdue, etc. People will do what they do regardless of what others will try to stop them. Just be careful out there. For those on the OP's, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that docs will most likely have to increase your doses for them to even stand a chance of working. For me, now I need Zofran or Phenergan for my stomach too. Bummer!

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LOU WRITES:
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Lou Says:

Thursday, 9/23/2010 12:22:38 PM

First off, I apologize to those of you in real pain, as i abuse narcotic painkillers, but damn yall are angry! I'm sure i would be too and would probably also want to reach through the screen and strangle someone like me. Anywayy, i suggest trying Opana if you already haven't. 40mg of Opana is supposedly equal to 80mg of oxycontin when it comes to pain relief and is surly much stronger with the OP's. Based on what i've heard and experienced, before the OP's oxycontin was the best bet for most people, but now Opana will likely provide more relief, even if it's not as pleasant or yall aren't used to it. Good Luck!

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I thought about this and have decided to say thank you for your honesty and good wishes. I believe you are sincere and feel bad about what happened; but how could you have known Purdue and the FDA would conspire to change the Oxycontin formula in such a way as to hurt people who are suffering REAL PAIN and taking the pills as prescribed. Frankly, I don't think they care.

I have been taking the REAL OXY for 7 years and I can tell you the new OP's do little to nothing for my pain, upset my stomach big time, and give me headaches. I have to take them because the doctor I have will believe the propaganda over me. In fact I called the druggist he uses to deliver my meds and asked him if he has had any complaints about the new OP's and he said no.

But I digress. Thank you for your post. People will flip out when they see *I* wrote this reply. HA HA.

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Serious people who really thinks that a junkie isn't going to find a way to either snort this or shoot it up there arm!!! I have a mother that suffers from a numerous amount of medical conditions and has been taking the oc80's for a few years now and all of these generic pills of oc don't help. There not effective, they have all of these synthetic additives and don't do anything for anyone! I really feel for everyone even the abusers on this hole situation because it's bull. Somehow someway the junkies are going to find a way to abuse these things and the people that do take them according to there docter a going to suffer.... Way to FDA, dumb politicians and stupid parents for thing that this is going to solve drug abuse......DUH there's other drugs being abused to ya dumb jacks...

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I have been on Oxy's now for 2 years I have severe peripheral neuropathy. For the past month now I have increased my dose to 6per day from 3 per day. I am to the point where I dont know what to do even taking 6 pills aday I cant stand it any more . I feel like lightning strikes are hitting my feet and they are on fire the rest of the time. I dont know if you know what walking on fire feels like or walking on shards of glass in bare feet but thats what im dealing with day in and day out. These new pills are not working . I swear at night when the pain is so bad , if I had a gun I would really concider eating the barrel and pulling the trigger. I am going out of my mind in pain and there are people on here saying im an abuser because I have to take meds for pain, are you insane ? This new pill is not working and for all you people who judge , you need to have this for just one day , just one day and you would shut your mouths and keep your no nosence jibber to yourselfs.

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the 80 mg op's SUCK!!! They do not have the same effect. Is there anything comparable to the Oxycontin 80s OPs? They are definitely different and do no release the same effect. What do I take next. Have been prescribed 80 mg OCs for over 7 years and it is not the same!!! HELP!!!! What's a girl to take?

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C.W. ASKS >>>>
Does anyone know if there is an online Petition we can sign to send to Purdue to have them make the original formula for OXYCONTIN OC,s available to those of us who take it as prescribed?

I can't find a PETITION anywhere on the Internet! This seems very odd to me. You'd think there would be one with hundreds of thousands of signatures on it by this time.

PLEASE; IF ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT SUCH A PETITION, POST A LINK TO IT.

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I been on oc's since 2001 when I fell 35 feet down elevator shaft. the last few months I got hurting really bad, my doctor says he is writing as much oc's as he can which was 60-80s oxycontion and 120-15mg oxycodone which I had been on for the last three years. He told me I would have to go to pain Mangement, it took 7 weeks to get in to a doctor and he upped me to 3-80mg oxycontion a day from two, and gave me 150-15mg a month so I thought I was going to be pain something I have not been in 10 years then I got those op's and they just do not work so now i have to be in pain so bad I feel like blowing my head off Because people want to get high by crushing them for a needle, those people are going to go get the herion and in the mean time us people who need the oxy's are going to suffer with pain and get sick, the bad guy win again!! My oc's come from a doctor and I should not have to suffer because of someone wanting to get high, The new op's just don't work like the oc's THe time you have to wait for them to work is just crazy and they don't last nowhere as long

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I have to agree with most everyone on here. I was blown up by a roadside bomb twice in one week. Second one got me pretty good and have had 6 surgeries in the last 2 years. The problem I am going to have is I just went from active Army to the VA and just met my doc. THe ops do not work as well or as long as the ocs. having a brand new doc and asking for a different pain med never looks good, no matter how well documented your medical conditions are. Plus I don't have a choice to go to any pharmacy, if the VA pharmacy doesn't carry it, then I don't get to try to go somewhere else. Again like alot of you said. Thank you very much to all you abusers. To everyone in pain I hope you find something that ends your suffering. Now I have the fun of looking at a couple more surgeries, more lifetime pain, and a less than proud end to my military career. Then again I am better off than the 4000 plus that came home in a coffin. So I really have little room to complain. Take care all.

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I have taken oxycotin for 14 years and I have tried for 2 weeks to use the new 80's. I have titanium in several places in my back and body and can barely walk. I used the 80's 3 times a day with norco for brake through pain. I am now taking more medication then I should because the new 80's do not work as well (not even close). I never abused them but now I have to explain to my doctor that I had to take more then I was prescribed. I made an appointment with him this week coming to ask what he could do. I emailed perdue pharmacuticals and they called me (I was surprized)and told me to get in touch with my doctor and tell him my problem and that there are several other new medications that are similar now on the market.

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