Oxycodone 20 Mg K57 Vs Np14 (Page 3)

I don't usually count the pills when I pick up my Rx. This time I did & felt a difference in the thickness. Some are marked NP on one side & K57 on one side & blank on the other. I'm assuming they're from different Mfg Co's but don't like to assume with my pain pills! Also, is it normal practice for Pharmacies to mix?

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Guys, really. I have to post this because this entire thread is so dumb. Y'all are all pretty stupid. First off, let's clear things up. Let's start with the basics. There are brand names and generics(chemical name- produced by other companies.) Brand names, example- OxyContin, should contain 100%. Generics, using the same example, oxycodone extended release tablets, by law contain at least 80% of the brand names chemical although good companies, such as Activist products I feel are equal to brand name. Don't believe me. Try ordering in a real Pfizer(brand name) 2mg alprazolam tablet. Compare it to a yellow Actavist 2mg generic. You will understand. There is little difference. Try a Sandoz(generic 2mg alprazolam) and you will see some companies do get away with less than 100%. If it was less than 80% they wouldn't be busy as stated in another post. This stuff is regulated.
Now, we will discus pain pills. Pain medications bonded with oxygen are generally stronger than ones bonded with hydrogen. Examples- oxymorphone(brand name-Opana). Hydrocodone/acetaminophen(Tylenol)(brand names vary. Vicodin, Norco, Hycet). Although Norco was popular for having 325mg acetaminophen, I believe all have dropped from 500mg to 325mg.

Now. Oxycodone 20 mg tablets. First off, the pill scored K57 is a generic as well as the pill scored NP 14. The only difference I have noticed is that the NP 14 are very hard. And do not cut or break easy like the instant K 57. However, since they are both generics. Only a lab will tell you the exact difference.

With this being said. Let's use common sense as well. Humans are all different. We all metabolize differently. So the bonding agent used by the generic companies as well as the way the tablet is pressed plays a large role in medication and its effects on your body. Example. Name brand OxyContin was initially scored OC and the other side had the mg number. But now, they have made an abuse proof version to control the addictive quality. The generic is now scored OP and the mg. They are virtually impossible to abuse by any method and many people report they don't work as well most likely because they are hard as a rock. Like the NP 14's are. I hope this sheds lights on the topic.

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Do not get either NP or OP 20 or other strength. Those are garbage and have no narcotics. Get the oxy 20 k57 or the A 50. They are good generics.
Hope that helped u.

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Still believe in the Tooth Fairy, as well? It's extremely naive to believe what the FDA says as 100%. What they publish for consumers is more or less their future goals -- where their best intentions would like to be, as far as consumer safety. Guidelines are not RULES and they're not FACTS, either. You have to understand if you're an adult in the world that in order to get something approved, a politician must convince constituents they NEED it to protect them from an awful, evil, scary, alternative. Now that makes the FDA and other such agencies more like advertisers than enforcers. But you had to know that, right? It's all about to be redundant, anyway, as Trump methodically goes thru eliminating all of our protective agencies one by one, along with a significant (altho small) amount of info and protections we actually do benefit from these agencies. Just remember in our nation, when protective agencies go up against money-making corporations, the protective agency will lose every time, even though it is made to appear like its winning. In this case, generic manufacturers can make so much more by cutting back on actual active ingredients in each tablet/pill, but they can make even more if they can just avoid having to set up the project which is to ensure consumer safety to begin with and also to maintain that level of protection. If they avoid having to create the infrastructure to check the pills and measure the actives --in other words, avoid creating and maintaining the checks and balances within the manufacturer that complies with FDA consumer safety rules, recommendations and so on.

How? They use politicians to steer the public eye and opinion to believe the manufacturers are all about ensuring their consumer public safety for the aspects of it that they believe really matter. They also use internet trolls to steer opinions. They're probably on this site, as well. Try this one on, the ones who are always dissing "junkies" and "drugseekers" etc., big swerve to public opinion as this makes the issue of shortages in each pain pill so unimportant to the law abiding, upstanding citizen. Trolls here tell us if we truly deserve our pain meds, we wont know so much about it. Which is exactly the opposite of what we know is true. If we truly hurt, we will learn as much about our health and our meds as possible. In the hospital I had signs all over my room and hallway urging patients to ask about the meds and question EVERYTHING I was given. Then, when a nurse tried to give me something I didn't know about and I inquired, I was treated like a criminal. We do this to our citizens and those like us. We are all bros and sisters and we must take responsibility for each other or else we will lose our own rights. Please, never show disrespect to another in pain, regardless if it's from cancer or drug addiction. We are all patients in need of medical care. Unfortunately, this mean society has taught us we are somehow better than others who cannot afford copays. We must eliminate racism, classism and healthcare discrimination in our time.

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I have noticed that the NP 14 pills are gray with little red and black dots in them. Are they real because most pictures online of them just look completely gray. I only saw one or two pictures where they look a little speckled. Just want to make sure that is the way they are supposed to be.

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Were they real? I came across these that look like red and black dots with NP14. Did they change the formulation? Did u ever find out?

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Hey darkangelblue. Don't listen to anyone if they tell you that one 20mg pill has less/more medicine than the other. The companies that make these generic copies of the name brand have to meet a certain criteria when chemically producing the pills. They will have the amount of medicine that is indicated on the bottle. Some have different buffers and could be using a difference there. But as far as the Oxycodone content. All the same. Now some people may prefer a certain brand over another. But that could be the way they use it (orally, or otherwise). But don't worry, if the bottle says 20mg, that's what's in there. It was probably the other minute amount of buffers and binding agents necessary to construct the pill that could be different and in different amounts. Hope that helps.

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Hey, people that complain about which pill is better, which one works better and all that stuff is all in their head. So advise each and every one of you to get into rehab and stop complaining about the pills or get off of them.

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I think both NP14 & K57 are pretty good generics, especially if compared to low quality Rhodes pharm.'s garbage!! Those RP 20's feel about a strong as maybe a Percocet 5mg if even that much lol! Also amneal's A50 an qualitest V4994 Shouldn't be looked over, they're right up there with the best of em in my book.

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It is definitely true that all brands are not the same. If they were why would a dr. write medically necessary on the prescription for certain medications so you can only get brand and not generic???

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Re: Jerry (# 47)

You're right Jerry, the people on here complaining and comparing various brands of this very dangerous narcotic are most likely addicted to opiates and should seek help for their addiction. In the US one person dies every 20 minutes, 24 hours a day, from overdose of an opiate. Oxycodone is just a cleaner form of heroin, and many young people turn to heroin when they can not obtain oxycodone pills and many of them subsequently die from heroin overdose because of their lack of experience with the always changing strength of heroin. Sadly, America is the largest market for legal and illicit drugs in the world. Wake up people before it's too late. God bless.

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Re: DaTruth215 (# 7)

This is not all factual the pharmacy CAN give you two different brands of the same medications happens all the time if we do not have enough to fill with just one. Also generic memedications by law are required to have a certain amount of active ingredient so some will be slightly stronger or weaker because they have a minimumhow amount required so some only put in the min. So put half while other companies put the full amount so some are stronger then other and because of different pills having additives that vary people can have diffrent reactions to diff. Pills I knew someone allergic to one generic brand with yellow dye so people please fact check with a professional whwn inquiring about your medication.

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I'm a 69-year-old man who's tired of being treated like a junkie. I worked 35 years for a major Brewery and destroyed my back lifting kegs of beer. Kaiser came in and finished the job of ruining my life with two botched surgeries. Which left me in a wheelchair. I worked my way out of the wheelchair, but with 150mg of morphine and 60mg of OxyContin daily. I was on this regime for 7 years. Unfortunately I changed kaiser doctors. The day I was to meet the new doctor I asked a nurse where to find my doctor. Then my nightmare began. She was my new doctor not a nurse. She took offense to being mistook for a nurse. During my appointment with her she was visibly agitated. She told me she would like to reduce my dosages of my pain medication. Rather than irritate her more I said ok as long as it wasn't to low of doses. She said she was going to cut my morphine by 2 - 30 mg pills a day and leave the oxycodone alone. My daughter was taping the whole conversation on her iPhone and the doctor caught on to her doing the taping. The doctor hit the ceiling and really got angry. We left the office and went to the pharmacy at Kaiser waiting for the new prescriptions. A half hour later this nightmare begins. The doctor had cut my pain medication off without even anything for withdrawal; which the pharmacist said was wrong and called his boss and raised hell about her cutting me off and worse she didn't even give me anything in case I would go through withdrawals. I've never been treated with so much disrespect since this happened. I've went through 3 more of Kaiser's doctors to try and get my pain medication back to no avail. I finally had to go outside of the Kaiser network to outside doctors and different hospitals and have had to pay for them myself. Kaiser after 4 months gave me back my prescriptions at half the dosage to keep just from shooting myself. They don't want another suicide problem with all the legal suits against them already. But everyone at the hospitals and even first responders who have picked me up because I can't drive anymore because Kaiser's doctors gave me a stroke during an angioplasty and left me half blind. But all these people think Kaiser is out their minds with how they are treating me. Everyone I've complained to have treated me like a joke or a junkie trying to get a fix for my habit of abusing drugs. Governmental offices are of no help at all. Medicare and Social Security said it's a Kaiser problem and my contract is with Kaiser. I've had to resort to things I would have never thought of doing. But it's a matter of survival at this point. I'm having to file bankruptcy due having to go outside Kaiser for doctors and hospitalization and I emptied my savings account and half my pension. And still waiting for Kaiser to put my prescriptions where they were before I pissed off one doctor for calling her a nurse.

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Re: Tamara (# 23)

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read on this thread so far, the FDA regulates all manufacturing of these pills and none of the companies are allowed to deviate from the projected formula or they would not be in business, it doesn’t matter if they’re name brand or not

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Re: Bennie (# 52)

And lawmakers wonder why heroin is such an epidemic. It's gonna get worse unfortunately. I hear more and more similar cases almost every day.

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Re: Troop (# 1)

Being prescribed pain pills for a bad back is never the best course of action however being said if the pain is unbearable it may be a solution for immediate relief that being said also you should look into alternatives to pain medicines.

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Re: Troop (# 1)

It all depends on what's wrong with your back is it nerves is it muscle is it bone?

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Re: DarkAngelBoo (# 3)

The np14 is very wack!! I hate them. But i hear they are great for headaches..

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Re: Sentinel (# 4)

Omg!! I knew it! There awful! Those 14 have no business being out there it’s not fair! We pay a lot money and expect to be out of pain somewhat! I actually felt like I was in withdrawal or something! I called the pharmacist and he was no help! I just changed from rite aid to bartell. I thought I was losing it!! I’m so glad I read this! That manufacture should be out of business!!!

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Re: JohnS (# 12)

You're wrong! Do a little research and you'll find out the difference in the active ingredient can vary by a certain percentage, and the FDA are the ones that allow this, plus all pills have different fillers.

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Re: Cheche32 (# 58)

Omg!! Me too! I think I was in withdrawal too! They are so awful!! I feel so cheated and all that time in pain for no reason!! I too just switched to barrels. They have a50 and a 57. They are so much better!!! How can they be out there to be sold! I heard rite aid is going bankrupt too! I’m so glad I found this post as I thought I was the only one!!

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