Opana 40mg Vs Oxycontin Op 80mg (Page 4)
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my Dr prescribed Opana 40mg as alternative to Oxy 80 mg 2 twice a day which I would insufflate - I didn't tell him this of course. he claimed them to be just as good if not stronger can any one share about opana 40mg

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I am so sad to see the abusers on this site. Why are you here? Bragging about the things that you do, that is illegal? All you are doing is making it hard for good folks, who deserve a pain free life, to raise their children, keep their homes, and try to live a somewhat normal life, from getting our medications, we so badly need?

For me, my story is this. I was diagnosed in high school, back in 65 with arthritis in my right knee. I was mortified as my doctor put me in modified gym, and told me that it was spreading. I was a shy and quiet, young woman, so being in that special gym class, was just more stuff for the "cool kids," to make fun of me. During the years, it did spread. Into my other knee and other places. But, that didn't stop me, I raised two children, restored old houses, made beautiful homes, gardens, canned fresh fruits and vegies, worked from home, to help my husband bring in the necessary income we needed for our kids and to keep our homes.

I rode bikes, out riding all the kids in the neighborhood, played with them all and ignored my pain, only taking OTC medications. When I was pregnant, with my second child, I learned from a different pain doctor, other than the baby doctors, that I had scoliosis of the spine. No other doctor had seen it. I was suffering, then from back pain. I was told not to lift over 25 lbs. that I would be in an wheel chair, eventually, because of the loss of use of my legs. But, I continued on, silently suffering, taking the OTC drugs, so much, just to get going, in the day, trying to be upbeat for my family, friends and others. I didn't want people to know how I was hurting.

I moved here, first from Illinois, leaving my family and an alcoholic husband, with my daughter, in 2000. I had lived in Minnesota, for 9 months, prior to here, in Arizona, but I had to move, because my daughter's allergies and the pain was spreading more in my body, affecting my work. I was still under the impression I only had osteoarthritis and the scoliosis. I thought, when I received a job offer here, it would be good for both of us, hoping the warmer climate would slow the progress of my arthritis. But, it didn't.

In 2000, while running my own business, it was becoming successful enough for me to support the two of us and live nicely, I had to close it. My assistant, who later became my fiance', saw I was on the verge of a nervous meltdown and in a lot of pain. I couldn't sleep, eat well and worked 24/7 because my clients didn't know the meaning of "deadlines." He moved me to a little cottage, he lived for free, as part of his security job on a 17 acrea estate, surrounded by a large conservancy, owned by a wealthy, young artist. He thought the peace and quiet would help me. But, after a year of living there, it became a popular place for the illegals to travel by, coming from Mexico. There were drug smugglers and people smugglers and bandits, hitting the houses along the river that backed up to the estate. The people smugglers, would get the poor into the desert, after taking all their money, clothes and belongings, leaving them there to die. They even took the diapers off the babies bottoms. It got cold enough to snow, occasionally, because my area is 4600 ft. above sea level and the cottage was in a small valley. The poor, would often come to our door, thinking the estate was a mission, frozen, starving and barely able to walk. Plus, we had to catch the bandits and prisoners, escaping from the Mexican prisons, along with the drug smugglers. Our dogs and ourselves were responsible for catching over 2,000 of these bad people in one year. It was becoming more dangerous. Yet, we gave away our clothes, what little food we had and helped heal the poor, enough for them to go back to their country, too ill to continue. That was the good part.

Our little cottage was unfinished, for the owner didn't care. We had no heat, no air conditioning and only a 20 gal. water heater. No appliances, so I bought, from the money left from my business, a heating plate and a convection oven, a small one, to cook and bake on. In the meantime, my pain continue to spread and get worse.

My fiance' took me to my doctors. I saw 13 different kinds. The very first, saw the positive ANA, in my blood sample. It was he and the first three who diagnosed me with lupus. Then, I found my primary doctor of 13 years. A very caring and kind doctor, who saw my health deteriorate while seeing her, all those years. At first, because not all my blood work showed positive ANA, she thought I had fibromyalgia, but after a few years, after going over and reading all my history again and other doctor reports, she determined I had Mixed Connective Tissue Disease and Chron's Disease, along with Crest Syndrome. This was because I had the symptoms of all three, on top of my scoliosis of my spine. Eventually, she helped me get on disability and a power chair, (for free from the Scooter Store), because I eventually could barely walk. Now, I cannot stand, walk, sit or lie for very long, not more than 5 mins., without pain. She tried all kinds of medications and sent me to a rheumatologist, that was still practicing in my town. The rheumatologist tried Lyrica, for me, but I broke out in hives. I had never seen hives, before. Then, she put me on Methotrexate. But that made me throw up, everyday. When we told her, I couldn't keep anything down, could barely eat, she said "if you can't take Methotrexate, you don't have rheumatoid arthritis." My primary couldn't believe this doctor said that. But, I wanted to go back, because I thought I could try something else, the rheumatologist suggested. However, she moved back up to Tucson which is four hours away from me. I can't travel that far. Now, there are none in our area, including no pain clinics. I guess our area isn't making enough money for specialists.

In the meantime, my doctor heard something in my chest and sent me to a cardiologist. It turns out, I have a leaky valve, too. I had a bad gall bladder, that was poisoning me, so after an emergency operation, with four surgeons taking 6 hours to just cut through the walls, before taking it out, none of which none had seen in their entire years of practice, they told me, the nurses tried to give me pain medication. But, I refused. Finally, seeing my primary again, she put me on oxycontin, then on morphine. She had to keep increasing it, because of the ever spreading and increasing pain. Also, my fiance' suddenly was diagnosed with lung cancer, stage four and was dying. I was his caregiver and with my disability money, I bought an old trailer for us to live, in what I thought was a quiet neighborhood, until my one neighbor moved in. It is in a safer place, 15 miles from the border and my daughter and I did all the moving, because my fiance' was too ill. He died a year later, despite spending the rest of the lump sum of disability money, I had gotten, buying everything and anything to save his life. Now, I have taken my ex-husband, off the streets, because he is blind and destitute. Our daughter got sick of caring for him and threw him out to the streets. She is no help to us now. We have no one and he has no one that cares about him, any more.

My primary suddenly stopped her practice. Another doctor, an internist, was given to me, but after a year, she disappeared too, while she was putting me on Buprenorphine, trying to get me off the morphine. She felt the morphine was not doing its job any more, my body had gotten used to it. So she wanted to try another new medication, if the buprenorphine didn't help. However, the DEA and the head of the clinic had other plans. The head of the clinic, another doctor, decided to take me off the buprenorphine, suddenly, without telling me. When I went to refill the second of three more refills, I found out from the pharmacy that I couldn't get it anymore. Being completely out, I called the clinic, who never bothered to tell me my doctor was no more and the head of the clinic said she didn't want me on it anymore. She put me back on the morphine, even though I was off of it for four months. Then she sent me to a male doctor, who never examined me, watched the clock the short time, he saw me, not listening to me. He looked at me as if I was a drug addict and gave me another script of morphine, which I refuse to fill now. He told me when I was "weaned" off the morphine, I was only to take over the counter pills for my pain! Then, he "dismissed" me. I will not go back to him again. He claimed he had read my history, but if he had, telling me my blood samples were negative for ANA, which everyone knows it doesn't always show that way. As written by doctors at the Mayo clinic, on their website and by other doctors on their websites. If this man, this last doctor, who only saw me for, not even 10 minutes, had read my history, he would had seen I hadn't had a blood analysis in two years! Plus he would have seen I did have positive results in the past. He said there was nothing wrong with me and it was all in my head.

So, I've tried calling a few doctors, some of the ladies, on my street, go to because they have fibromyalgia, but those doctors refuse to see chronic pain patients, anymore, suddenly changing their minds. I know it is because of the DEA, putting pressure on the doctors, pharmacies, insurances, (although mine still pays for the morphine, as it is much cheaper than the buprenorphine), and the medicine manufacturers who are honestly making the medicines, not making it for the cartels and junkies. So, now, I am trying to find a doctor who will see me.

My pharmacy, plus their delivery man, (I can't drive there to get my prescriptions), and another friend, told me about a wonderful, lady doctor, who has opened her practice, at the University of Arizona's new clinic, within walking distance from my house, (if I could walk). But, she's not taking new patients, trying to wrap up the ones from her old practice and settling into the new one, until July. I am praying, every night she won't refuse to see me. Otherwise, the other doctors, in this town, won't help me, just like the man doctor, I saw only once. They are too afraid of loosing their licenses, thanks to the DEA and I read that most won't see chronic pain patients, because they don't know how to treat them. If this doctor doesn't want to see me, I guess I will just die. But, who will take care of my blind, ex husband, which I am trying to get him on disability? There is no one. No one to help us.

With all this written, I do understand the chronic pain patients are having, getting their medications, to help relieve some of their pain, finding doctors and hospitals that will help them. All thanks to the junkies, cartels and DEA and some government people, who have no clue what suffering from chronic pain is like. They don't have any medical backgrounds or understand, that because some of us don't look or act sick, in public, it doesn't mean we aren't suffering terribly. Just because we don't have cancer, doesn't mean we aren't suffering as much if not more. I took care of my dad, who died of alzheimer's and cancer and my fiance' who passed away from lung cancer. I know their pain, yet they didn't suffer much, for they were able to enjoy life, right up to the end. My fiance', winked at me, on his dying bed, smiling and telling me it was okay. I was happy neither didn't suffer as much as I am now. They were never in a wheel chair and had someone to care for them. I wish I did, now. I don't want to die alone. I would love to have another in my life, to love, but my life is basically over. Yet, I remain positive and keep a happy face, around my ex-husband and people who see me, from the outside. I try to do as much as I can, when I am able. But when I just cook dinner, I am hurting until the next afternoon, when my one pill, only a 60mg/day, down from the described 180mgs/day, the last doctor prescribed, is time to take. I have cut myself down, in hopes of getting off of it, before I see the new doctor, so she doesn't use that for an excuse not to see me. I am hoping, because she is with the UofA, that she will be able to help me more.

That is my story, it is unlike others who are suffering so much. May GOD Bless you all, who are trying to live their lives, as best as they can, with the horrible suffering you are going through. I have you all in my prayers and when I get the petition written, I hope all will come and sign it, making the DEA and the government people allow us to get our pain medications, not thinking we are all junkies and realize, "We the People," 100+million of us, who are suffering terribly, have a right to live a humane life, with the liberty to not suffer any more.....

Always!

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Sniff? Are you being silly or what? This is why there is a reason why so many people, who use their medications, as prescribed, are not getting their medications, anymore, thanks to the DEA. Do you think they won't read your comment? You are going to make it impossible for people to get this medication now, too, because you are sniffing it? Why? Are you using it for pleasure and not because of pain? Shame on you, if you are! Please, don't write anything more, you will take away any pain relief from honest, chronic pain sufferers, because of what you wrote. It wasn't meant to be "sniffed," you should be only using it, because you need it, for chronic pain, I don't believe you are suffering and are only using it for a high! It is people like you that cause the real chronic pain patients to suffer intensely, because you are using it incorrectly and don't need it.
SHAME ON YOU, for NOT TELLING YOUR DOCTOR, that you are ABUSING THE MEDICATION, He/she is giving you, believing you are suffering! Now could your doctor can loose his or her license, because of your bragging how you "Sniff it, not telling your doctor!" There are many, many people, now loosing the strong medication, opiates, the only things that help them, with their intense pain, because of people like you, drug abuser! I wish the admin of this site, would kick you off, because of your bragging. If you need to "sniff it," for whatever reasons, other than for relief from chronic pain, mostly for a "high" don't brag about it. It is hurting our cause to keep our much needed medication, that we don't abuse or misuse, because you are "Sniffing It!" Shame on you, (and that's me, not using the stronger words, I actually feel about you).

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All of you people complain about the "junkies" screwing up your prescriptions, but the "junkies" wouldn't even be able to get them if you weren't selling them. There are no innocent parties here. Stop playing the victim.

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I have had chronic backpain since I was 15 yrs old, now 65. Oxycontin worked very well but if I missed a dose withdrawal started immed. I was in constant fear of running out and some of it was stolen a couple of times. Point is: tried Opana. side effects were itching, sudden musclar spasm [arms, legs] but the itching was horrible: scalp, legs,
back. Stopped with no problem, had been on Morphine Sulfate but not much relief. Now on Oxymorphone and seems to be working well. Would not ever recommend Oxycontin

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Ive run the whole gambit of pain meds. I am currently on oxy 80's er,but they are losing there effectiveness . I am considering asking my doc about changing my meds to Opana 40's. I don't know what to do,cause,the pain is getting worse. Of the two,which pain medicine is better for pain? Someone tell me if there is anything better for chronic pain.

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That was an excellent post. Very well thought out spoken and expressed. But most of all; it's the total truth!!! I certainly felt the virtue behind it. Thank you!!!

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People out there abusing drugs die....their problem. Don't make all those honestly taking their meds as prescribed going through 24/7/365 chronic pain have to suffer more because of it....

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I'm not a junkie I have a disc problem and the insurance co won't cover the surgury. I'm sick of being on all this dam medicine . I go to work 5 days a week I just want to feel better without the meds.i have a family and a little girl who I would like to b around for for a long time. You people shouldn't b so fast to judge someone .

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Dude opana are very strong probably the most strongest pill ...enjoy

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I've been taking oxy 60 4x a day for 3 years now and perc10 4x a day. I stopped the perc10 but I'm wondering how do you get off the oxy?

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Thank you

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Hahahaha I agree I hate these junkies on here that ruin it for those or us that truly need the drugs to get around in a reasonable state of being pain free or at least taking the edge off of it so it is bearable just to walk around let alone play with our kids.

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Yes my suggestion to you is stop abusing the drugs that ppl like me and a lot of other ppl actually need just to get through the day. If you want to be a junkie just go get H and blast it in your arm and I hope its bad cause its ppl like you that ruin it for ppl like me that actually need the meds and take them as prescribed. P.S. I hope to god you get caught thrown out of clinic you go to and or get caught misusing them and do not pass go,do not collect another script ever again and go directly to jail and have to detoxify cold turkey. Maybe that will open you're eyes so you can see the err of you're ways and see how you and ppl like you have ruined what little relief I did use to get but don't any more because of the anti abuse agents they are putting in everything now nullify the pain relief of the originals. Thanks a lot loser junkie.

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No opana sucks especially da gel ones da oc/op are a lot better

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Dear unrealistic. I could have not said it better! As a fourteen year user of ALL narcotic pain med on this planet due to ADJD I share your disgust with the medical community as a hole. (not a misspelling)

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Hey Nathan... I thought the same thing... That someone replied to my original post asking for the difference between Opana , Exalgo and OxyContin . But It seems this site is more for abusers than actual ppl in severe pain due to multiple surgeries. I've 8 plates in my back. C_4/5,5/6,67 L-3 thru S-1 . Two ruptured still C-2/3 +3/4 that are inoperable and cause problems swallowing, breathing and turning my head. T-1 is buldged really bad. Just had R shoulder 12/18/12 operated on and R hip replaced 7/8/13 due to degenerative bone disease. My bones are very fragile and I also fell in 09 and suffered a sacral fracture which still hurts as it was never reset and healed badly. So I can say I feel your pain! Right now I'm on opana 30 12 hr 2xs a day with oxycodone 10.325 4xs for breah thru. As well as Valium for muscle spams due to cord compression. I HATE those who abuse and make it hard for us legit ppl in pain to get the proper meds we need to "move". This forum is a joke. I only valu the opinions if the PHDs who check in here and there - but they still only address the junkies. Good luck Bro. Keep your chin up and suck up the pain.... Don't do anything to hurt yourself further. Life is over as we knew it and a more regulated and revised lifestyle should be implemented. Exercise reg, eat right, take vitamins and try to keep your spirits up..... Rainy days SUCK. Don't lift anything over 5-10 lbs. and realize that the OxyContin worked the best but the junkies ruined it for us. Ps : don't do that lyrica bs. !!! I swelled up like a balloon and gaIned 20 lbs in 1 week! Couldn't pee, poo or sleep!
Good luck . Ali

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Sorry man thought u commented on my post until I saw above how the junkie was complaining and abusing his meds. This page is confusing sometimes I'm new to it. I hate people like that they ruin everything and anything and upset me alot when they talk about how they abuse meds or whatever and they don't even need it.

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Wow..thought u had a phd

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I have been battling lower back pain for 15 years. I had surgery in 2000 (fusion). It failed and i had it re-done in 2012. I have been a patient at a pain clinic for 2 years. I take 1-2 Norco 10mg (Vicodin without so much tylenol in it.) up to 5 a day. (Always seem to need more. I usually run out, but the w/d aren't as bad as other more potent medicines which is an advantage. Once I get refilled, it works ok, but my tolerance always seems to kick in and they stop working 1 week into the month. I just switched from the OP 10mg which I swear is a placebo and they work pretty good. I like not feeling high from these medications but sometimes it just affects me differently. I was on OC 20's in 2000 for 4 months and was seeing ghosts and having real trouble when I stopped taking them. Physically Ill!!! I got through that and feel I have found a balance between pain and meds that won't take me over. Bottom line is I need to be more fit and do some SERIOUS physical therapy. Taking a pill is easy, but they make us lazy and complacent. By the time you sober up from them you see everything clearer and realize they are sneaky in how they affect you.

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I've been taking 30 mg oxycodone 6x a day the immediate release pills. It worked but for a short time and 3 hours later had to take another but was in pain before that three hours was up. I've had two back surgeries and tons of hardware put in. After the second surgery I feel ten times worse and in chronic pain all the time. So doc switched me to 60 mg oxycontin and 30mg IR oxy for break thru and the oxycontin gives me nausea, headaches, constipation more than ever and the oxycontin doesn't work well whatsoever. I switched from that to 40mg oxymorphone 2x a day with four 15mg oxy IR for breakthrough and found that I was going thru withdraw from oxy decrease so I went back three days later requesting to go back to the oxy IR and oxycontin. I regret it so bad because now I'm stuck in miserable pain and can't go back for three months. I'm wanting to switch back to the oxymorphone generic opana and the four 15 mg for breakthrough but I'm afraid to ask before my next refill which is in 18 days. My doc overbooks people and seems like they don't care but get aggregated when I have legit problems I hope they don't deny me because I have a family and two step children to take care of and lately I don't want to get up out the bed and face the long miserable painful days. Any advice would be appreciated from somebody who has been thru similar issues. Thanks

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