Opana 40mg Vs Oxycontin Op 80mg (Page 3) (Top voted first)

my Dr prescribed Opana 40mg as alternative to Oxy 80 mg 2 twice a day which I would insufflate - I didn't tell him this of course. he claimed them to be just as good if not stronger can any one share about opana 40mg

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to the person 'snorting' any kind of narcotic.......are you nuts??? That's not the intended dosing quidelines, and are you taking this for pain? You need to get honest with your doctor, and at the very least.... yourself!
Why are you doing this? i don't understand...... does it make it stronger, more effective, work better? Would like to know why you think 'snorting' this or any narcotic is the better way to administer this medication? Please explain to someone that 'just doesn't get it'.
Thanks

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listen pain is terrible fact, but i think its funny how people like to throw rocks at drugs addicts, the thing is if you have have been taking so many pain killers for years your a drug addict and just dont know yet,,try lowering your dose, or even try different natural things people have lived with some pain before, im not sayin people should live in pain most addicts who abuse these started from gettin them for pain and were cut off the other people took them for mental pain which is not the right medication but people do the wrong thing all the time they should see the right specialist, i know this from family experience when your taking pain medication you are not yourself you can say u feel normal but it messes with yur natural chemicals and when its time to lower the dose or get off its a big thing im not looking for a argument just stating facts

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AND ALSO IF YOU READ MY POST I SAID THAT I DO KEEP MY PILLS IN A LOCK BOX BECAUSE I HAVE HAD THEM STOLEN BEFORE, SO I DON'T NOW WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE BUT I'M NOT AN OLD BAT I'M 32 YRS OLD!!! AND CAN'T STAND PPL LIKE YOU YOU ACTUALLY MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH, WATCH WHO YOU TALK TO LIKE THAT CAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO I AM AND WHO MY HUSBAND IS EVER HEAR OF THE LATIN KINGS/QUEENS? I KNOW YOU HAVE, AND WERE BOTH ONE, BLACK AND GOLD NEVER FOLD, AMOR DE REY, GET IT TWISTED AGAIN, COMPUTERS IS WHAT MY HUSBAND GOES TO SCHOOL FOR AND WE WILL FIND YOU WITH YOUR IP ADDRESS, THIS I'S THE FIRST, LAST AND ONLY WARNING, TAKE IT TO THE POLICE, WERE FAR MORE INTELLIGENT THAN YOU TO USE OUR OWN IP ADDRESS!!!! HAVE A BLESSED JUNKIE DAY;)

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Only thing I noticed is you have to watch what you take with them.My DR. prescribed Opana ER 40 Mg.I have had 2 episodes where they made me like a zomby.I will have to take my xanax,somas till about 3 hours latter.I was taking percocet 10/325 4 times a day.Now I take opana er 40 mg 2 times daily they realy help me esp. my leggs.THANKS YOU ALL FOR READING THIS

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My name is Jerry I'm from PA and I know what ur going threw. I've been there And still.am

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Sniff? Are you being silly or what? This is why there is a reason why so many people, who use their medications, as prescribed, are not getting their medications, anymore, thanks to the DEA. Do you think they won't read your comment? You are going to make it impossible for people to get this medication now, too, because you are sniffing it? Why? Are you using it for pleasure and not because of pain? Shame on you, if you are! Please, don't write anything more, you will take away any pain relief from honest, chronic pain sufferers, because of what you wrote. It wasn't meant to be "sniffed," you should be only using it, because you need it, for chronic pain, I don't believe you are suffering and are only using it for a high! It is people like you that cause the real chronic pain patients to suffer intensely, because you are using it incorrectly and don't need it.
SHAME ON YOU, for NOT TELLING YOUR DOCTOR, that you are ABUSING THE MEDICATION, He/she is giving you, believing you are suffering! Now could your doctor can loose his or her license, because of your bragging how you "Sniff it, not telling your doctor!" There are many, many people, now loosing the strong medication, opiates, the only things that help them, with their intense pain, because of people like you, drug abuser! I wish the admin of this site, would kick you off, because of your bragging. If you need to "sniff it," for whatever reasons, other than for relief from chronic pain, mostly for a "high" don't brag about it. It is hurting our cause to keep our much needed medication, that we don't abuse or misuse, because you are "Sniffing It!" Shame on you, (and that's me, not using the stronger words, I actually feel about you).

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It's perfectly okay, pain makes us do things we wish we couldn't, such as changing our personalities. I get upset, myself, because I'm a type "A" personality, always in charge of everything. Now, I am helpless and it is not a good feeling. Plus, to add to my misery it is 103 degrees here, where I live. This isn't normal, but I fear the "Greenhouse Effect" is happening much faster than they first believed. I am not heat tolerant, so my whole body is suffering and I can't eat or sleep. I just wish the folks who are taking away our medications, would feel just a little of what we are all going through.
Please, take care of yourself, and hopefully, you will find another doctor who is more understanding and caring and will find something that will help with your suffering.
I have you in my prayers...
Always!

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RickyBobby,
It is too bad, you are being judgemental of me, if it is my posts you are replying too. I am only talking to those who are abusing their medications, drug junkies, using it for pleasure. I have seen too many who are doing this. I also have stopped some drug smugglers, from crossing the border, those who give it to our children, young people, making them hooked on it. My brother, of 51, the youngest in our family, just died from a rare brain disease, only few get. It was punching holes in his brain, they gave him morphine, to help him mentally and for his pain. So I understand this part. I was just writing to those who brag how they don't tell their doctors they are abusing it. This is what is causing the problems for all of us. We are all losing our doctors. I, personally have two primaries disappear, suddenly on me, fear they will lose their licenses or worse, go to jail, as on doctor did, in California. We can't get what is the only thing that works for our intense pain, our medications. Most of us are now committing suicide, to get from the pain. The only thing that is keeping me from doing so, is my great faith in GOD. This is why I started my petition, my writing to the President, to try and help us all, the honest chronic pain patients, who follow our prescriptions to the tea, who are monitored, closely, by our doctors, pharmacies, to be sure we don't abuse our precious medications. So, please, write not, what you know about, criticizing someone who cares. I care for the 100 million chronic pain patients. Those with mental illnesses, have plenty of other medications, the DEA doesn't care about, to help them. Morphine, Oxycontin, and similar medications, are not for the mentally affected! If you need these things, aren't in pain, it makes me wonder? Please, go to your doctor, for your mental help, get the proper medications for it. Don't just use our medications to get "High" on, for you are causing much suffering for many, many people, dying from their pain. You must have no idea of the extreme pain all of us are suffering from, so much so, we can't care for ourselves, our loved ones, or even get out of bed, each day. Also, what are you doing to help chronic pain patient's cause, other than come on and criticize???

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But, dear, I wonder if the medication you are writing about, is allowed by the DEA, so they will allow all chronic pain patients to take it, for doctors to prescribe it. chronicpaininthebollox. Are you in the states? For in the states, most states the DEA/FDA are taking our doctors and our medications away from us, instead of concentrating on the cartels, the junkies and the smugglers. They are attacking, oppressing all chronic pain patients, our doctors and our pharmacies, just because they think we are abusing our prescriptions, which we are not. We don't get "high" on our medications, like morphine, or abuse them. They are precious to us, they go straight to the pain, not to our heads, like junkies use to get their "highs!" But, their ignornance, not feeling the extreme pain, we all suffer, including our injured vets, so they sit and judge us. They also claim we are overdosing ourselves, but we are not. Now they are forcing many of us, to commit suicide, to get away from our horrible pain, we can never escape from. Our medications, are our last resort, to live even a close to normal life. I am writing to the president, made petitions for other chronic patients to sign, trying to make our oppression known, because of the DEA/FDA, and others who don't know what they are doing to us.

Thank you all, for reading this, for helping me, help others and may GOD bless all of you....

Always,
Marianne

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I started having pain in my right ankle and heel in 1999. It continued to get worse I was given codiene w/ aspirin back then. knew aht tylenol would do to my organs. In 2001 I had to quit a great job because my foot swelled and I could not put any pressure on my foot. the 60's 4 x's a day helped. in 2010 I was told that pain meds w aspirin are off the shelf so had to take codiene sulphate 60 mg and buy my own aspirin. ftare 2 months, pharmacy tells me they cant get just the codiene and switched to tabs. 10 mg x 4 a day. After getting over nausea, they worked. I always needed something that I could take when hurting and be ok in 15-30 minutes. In 2012, my doc says the admin of the corporation says all their docs must get rid of patients taking controlled meds. he cut me down to 90 instead of 120 a month for 1 month and then tells me I have to go to pain management. I thought finally I am going to a place that can prescribe what you need to really help you. i went from tabs to the lowest time released morphine 2 x a day. no help. then tried everything but at a low mg. he never would stick with one to see if a higher mg might do the trick. he ended up with opanas 30 er. at first they would help for maybe an hour IF i was not doing anything. Now its 2 years later and he wont let me go back down to tabs. I tried tabs for a week a while back to see if they still worked and they do. I could not be completely honest with them for the fear of being kicked out even though I timed it so even a U/A would show only opana. has anyone else been stuck on something we know is strong but in order to try to work any kind of job or move around during the day. i need an IR and they will not here of it. they try all of this toxic crap that really hurts my gut or I read about it and see the damage it will do and am not stupid enough to take some an said that destroys my internal organs. looking for some one that has been able to go in reverse if the old pills worked and how they were able to get some one to go along with getting off the strong er crap. thanks, rocks

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Most likely, no! The new pana 30 er is time released and most of it will be destroyed form acid in your gut. The avaerage mg you will get so I have heard is about 4mg out of 30. plus if you need a med that will work when you need it to, dont count on this new formula to help you at all. methadone to cause kidney and liver failure if you have been on it very long. Some folks dont care if they die from something that is supposed to help but I do. keep it simple and Do NO HARM mr and mrs. doc!

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Damn!! Taking that high of an amount of different MEDS everyday, I would hope your pain "is controlled " for the most part!

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to Chronicpaingirl read your post i see u have rsd i am also diagnosed pain 24/7 just was perscribed opana will that help never on oxy i told my pain doc i will suffer somewhat did not want to jump to a strong drug but could not take the pain no more im also on 10 mg norco for breakthrough pain

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Hello all, just read the very informative commentary so wanted to offer my own experiences. First off, I have ADHD and am very sensitive to body changes so any med change is a nightmare. Have had chronic back/all over body pain for 30 yrs. that was finally diagnosed as Fibromyalgia in 2004 when I was in the midst of a lot of bone/jt. pain d/t menopause onset. Well, lucky me: a few months later my 16 yr old daughter died in a car accident, and I've been on a nasty pain roller coaster since then. Oh, yeah, migraines, too.
I was pretty stable, rating about a 4-5 on the pain scale at my monthly doc visits when the oxy changed. I take 3 20's a day, w 2 or 3 Norco 10/325's for breakthrough, 1800 neurontin (cleared for 3000/day),topamax, vyvanse for ADD, Prempro (hormones), zoloft, and 1 mg klonopin at bedtime.

I didn't know about the new oxy's, so when I went to the pain doc the next time after i picked up the first new rx, it was with the certainty that 1)he had written the wrong prescription, or 2) the pharmacy had given me the wrong meds. I did notice the change in appearance, but with all the different generics, you never know what your drugs will look like. Anyway, my body notified me on day one and esp night one of new meds that something was wrong with my oxy, and when my doc told me about the reformulation, I was furious. I should say I live in KY, home of a lot of oxy addicts, and I totally GET the need to keep scheduled drugs away from them. Seems like the pharmacies and the - hey! - doctors! - would play a part in this, but I'm a little on the inside and I know better.
Sorry to blabber, but I gave the new oxy's a month, and then this last visit, switched to opana 30's, which I was told are a true 12-hr med. and that I could switch right over. From day one, I've been nauseous and what I can only describe as dope-sick. Even though I take ADHD meds, it takes me several hours to get waked up, which is bad b/c I don't work but I do have 2 dogs who need care.

Both of the two mornings after nights with opana, I woke up with diarrhea, pounding headache and other w/d symptoms, where before, I'd take one 20 mg oxy and 1 norco with my other bedtime meds and literally sleep almost till morning.
I'd wake up feeling fine, have my coffee, and have to remind myself to take my meds before the day got away with me!

It's only been a week, but it's been a bad one drug/pain-wise. Today I used opana for middle of the day only and I've felt horrible since I took it - sneaking suspicion it's not going to work for me!

So that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Thanks for sharing yours.
Bonnie

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I think the Oxcontin 80s (OP) suck!! I had them 1 x time I have been lucky to find a drug store to still carry the 80 (OCs) but this month they cost me almost $1400 cash!! The Insurance did not cover it.. DOES any one think the Dildadid 8s would work better than the MS Contin 100s? until I can get my insurance straight, and go to Opanas 40s, Any insight would really be helpful?
THANKS

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In general I think that regular hydromorphone (Dilaudid) is one of the best meds. out there. Not much junk in it and they work fairly long for me, about 6 hours. Most of the other long acting meds. have the anti-abuse meds. I think that Exalgo (long acting hydromorphone has Narcan/noxalone) in it I think. Narcan is what you are given if a person O.D.'s. It kicks the opiates off your nerve receptor sites and you can end up in W/D's. Exalgo is the only one I am fairly certain has this, although the Opana may have something similiar. I was on both of those and had bad side effects/little pain relief as well. I am back on the Oxy. (OP's). They work for me, but are about 20-30% less effective and cause more constipation too. Our choices are getting limited and the drug abusers/makers are in a battle causing the rest of us problems. I pray you all have a Merry Christmas .

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I just want to thank all of you for posting about your various medications endeavors. I have had headaches (transform migraines) for about 20 years now. I have had to take narcotics since about 18 years ago. I had to go to large doses pretty quickly but once I finally got relief I haven't had to increase or change often. For the past 5 years I was able to stay at the same level of pain medication, Oxycontin, 200mg per day. 1-40mg and 1-10mg every 6 hours, with Oxy IR 5mg as needed for break-thru - which was about 6-8 per day.

This new OC to OP conversion, absolutely sucks! Right after I started the effectiveness went down. I get maybe 30%-40% pain control where before it was more like 85-90%.

Luckily I have a fantastic pain doc, and when I told her, the drug rep happened to be in the exact same time I called about my problems. The drug rep said that there is a small group of people out there that the new delivery formulation isn't working for. After reading everyone's comments, it sounds like it's not a small group but most people are having problems - at least those people that used the drug as intended, without crushing, cutting or snorting. I loved how the drug rep called this loss of efficacy as an adverse reaction. Adverse reactions means breathing issues, rash, vomit, etc - not loss of efficacy.

It's sad that another useful medication is being taken away from the doctors arsenal for pain mgmt. Then we as chronic pain patients suffer.

Thanks to all of your comments I am a little less concerned over trying Opana ER - that's what the doc is now hoping will work for me. We are doing 4x20mg to start. 2 every 12 hours, and re-evaluate it every 72-96 hours, since Opana ER is supposed to have a cumulative effect after a few days. Like I said earlier - a great pain doc, very hands-on and caring. They are rare to find.

Before I read your comments, I must admit, I was scared to switch. At the levels of meds we have to take, changing can be very frightening. One wrong dose and it could be a trip to the ER or worse.

After I try this new medication, I'll try to post back and let others know my experiences, good and bad. Try to pay it forward a bit.

My best to everyone, and I hope your next year will be better then all previous ones.

Beastboy

PS.
If you agree that this new delivery formulation of Oxycontin from the OC to OP variety - contact the manufacturer, Purdue. Maybe if they hear from enough of us (and encourage your doctors to say something too), they could make the OC available again - even if it meant going through some extra steps to have it filled.

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i was taken off of 4 80mg oxycontin a day without anything. cold turkey. i was sick for amonth then iwent into a coma because my b.p. was so high .DO NOT do anything cold turkey. being an addict is not the worst thing. being alive is very GOOD.

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I have had bad results from the Opana and Exalgo drugs. The Oxy (OP's) and Dilaudid (8 mg.) combinations work pretty darn well. Even though the OP's are less effective by 20-30 % I prefer them over the other long acting meds. Our course I hope that they return to the old OC formula, but I think that is a pipe dream for now. Also, please be very careful with stimulant laxatives and Benedryl, they will drive your B.P. and H.R. way up. I ended up in the E.R. with a B.P. of 180/105. They tried Inderal (propranolol) and I had chest pains from that. Use natural health food store supplements if you can. I pray that all of you out there are safe, stable and comfortable. God bless you and Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

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same thing about oc or op not even close you no witch won is better but I can tell you 100 percent DILAUDID8 is the strongist pain med thats made this I no for sure

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