Opana 40mg Vs Oxycontin Op 80mg (Page 3)
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my Dr prescribed Opana 40mg as alternative to Oxy 80 mg 2 twice a day which I would insufflate - I didn't tell him this of course. he claimed them to be just as good if not stronger can any one share about opana 40mg

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I can only say that the Morphine IR 15mg vs Opana 10 mg has worked much better for me for breakthrough pain and that the Opana worsened my stomach issues as well.. Hope that helps.. The only problem is if I don't need the IR for pain I haven't been taking it but then start feeling mild withdrawal symptoms...even taking my OxyContin 60 mg twice day.

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Thank you!

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chronicpaininthebollox,
You mentioned Tapentadol, as an alternative for chronic pain, which I am greatly suffering from. I am trying to care for my ex-husband, who is blind and destitute, trying to keep him off the streets. He has no one to care about him, but myself. I was on morphine for my pain, but thanks to the DEA/FDA, I lost two primary doctors, am off the morphine, for it is illegal for doctors to prescribe, now, even though it was the very last resort for my pain, after trying everthing else. I have Norco, for breakthrough but now that I can't find a doctor, who will see a chronic pain patient, I am running out of those too. I don't know what I will do. I am desperately trying to find a doctor who will treat a chronic pain patient, due to my illnesses. Someone who will find something to help me, as strong as morphine, but not an opiate. Now, you mention this medication, which I think you said is an opiate, also. But, I am wondering if it is also on the DEA's list of medciations, not to be prescribed by doctors and given by pharmacies, even though my doctors, my pharmacy and my insurance, closely monitored, me to be sure I wasn't selling it or abusing it. I never got "highs," on it, either, for it went straight to helping my pain. I was able to care for an ex-fiance' who passed away from lung cancer, thanks to the oxycontin and eventually the morphine. I was like a normal person, again, not in bed, in a fetal position, all day/night, every day of my life. I was able to pay my bills, (still am), shop for us, and now care for the ex-husband. But, my pain is getting too great and I am afraid the Norco, (7.5 mg/325 mg of the stuff in Tylenol), is affecting my kidney horribly. I am starting to have problems urinating. So, another question, will this stuff, you mention, affect any organs, negatively, too? Do you know? If not, if I do find a doctor, to help me, who won't quit on me, from being afraid of the DEA, is it on their list to make doctors from prescribing it. Also, I wonder about subtex, or the medication like it, and opana. I see others write about these helping the extreme pain, us chronic pain patients are having, civilians and vets alike, but don't know if they are allowed to be prescribed. So, if you know, or anyone here, please let me, know. I only wish someone lived near me, in Sierra Vista, AZ, who knows a doctor, who will see me, for my conditions and have something that will actually help my pain, like the morphine used too. I didn't feel high, it went directly towards relieving my pain, so I can do things non sufferers can do, especially care for others. If anyone has any information, for me, I will be happy to read it. Most grateful, too.

I also have a petition and write to the president, on behalf of the oppression, caused by the DEA/FDA, of doctors, chronic pain patients and our pharmacies. I've lost two primary doctors, for fear they would be put in jail or lose their licenses, or both, just because they are trying to stop our pain, when nothing else works for us. My petition is here:

petitions.moveon.org/sign/stop-the-judgement-of?source=c.em.cp&r_by=10582339

And I write to the president here, on his "Front Porch," website, where he wants to hear from all of us, how we are doing. I have been writing many emails to him, from his site, on behalf of all of us, who are losing our doctors, our medications, thanks to the ignorance and poor judgement of the DEA. They should be concentrating on the abusers/junkies, the cartels and the smugglers, instead of innocent doctors, patients and pharmacies. They have no clue of our extreme pain, including our vets, injured in wars, trying to save our country. They just judge us. So, here is that site, to write the President:

whitehouse.gov/my-front-porch?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=economy

Please, if you have chronic pain, or know someone who is suffering terribly, or just want to help me, get the word out, about our oppression of us, our doctors and our pharmacies, please go to these sites, sign my petition and write to the president. We need to get known our extreme suffering and how the DEA/FDA is stopping what has been helping us, so much. We all need to be heard, for the more we are heard, known about our suffering, the less we will be judged as junkies, but real patients with real pain, stopping us from even from eating, without suffering.

Thank you, all, for the information, you can give and for helping me get people to know about our suffering and how we are losing our doctors, our pain medications.

May GOD bless you all....

Always,
Marianne

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But, dear, I wonder if the medication you are writing about, is allowed by the DEA, so they will allow all chronic pain patients to take it, for doctors to prescribe it. chronicpaininthebollox. Are you in the states? For in the states, most states the DEA/FDA are taking our doctors and our medications away from us, instead of concentrating on the cartels, the junkies and the smugglers. They are attacking, oppressing all chronic pain patients, our doctors and our pharmacies, just because they think we are abusing our prescriptions, which we are not. We don't get "high" on our medications, like morphine, or abuse them. They are precious to us, they go straight to the pain, not to our heads, like junkies use to get their "highs!" But, their ignornance, not feeling the extreme pain, we all suffer, including our injured vets, so they sit and judge us. They also claim we are overdosing ourselves, but we are not. Now they are forcing many of us, to commit suicide, to get away from our horrible pain, we can never escape from. Our medications, are our last resort, to live even a close to normal life. I am writing to the president, made petitions for other chronic patients to sign, trying to make our oppression known, because of the DEA/FDA, and others who don't know what they are doing to us.

Thank you all, for reading this, for helping me, help others and may GOD bless all of you....

Always,
Marianne

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Tapentadol has been licensed for chronic pain ( it had previously only been indicated for severe acute pain ) . It is from the the developers of Tramadol but is a much more potent opioid than tramadol. The reports so far are promising . Powerful pain relief , less nausea compared to traditional opiates/opioids , and it inhibits to an extent noradrenaline re-uptake , so may improve mood and be less sedating .

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I take 125mg fentenyl with 30 mg for breakthru. I have taken everything and been on the patch for 6 yrs, same dose. I have been disabled since I was 26, I'm now 39. I tore during childbirth and have had 14 reconstructive surgeries, crohns dx, sh%# in a bag and have a 30 degree curve from scoliosis. Needless to say my pain is high.
I'm interested in opana and have a 40 but am really nervous about trying...
If it works I will ask doc to switch.
I will post my reaction for you guys.

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Please help- I have chronic pain and am on disability for a neck injury. I am currently on Opana 40 mg 2x day and Opana 10 mg 6x day. ( the Opana 40 is prescribed as oxymorphone for insurance reasons.) I am beginning to form a tolerance and am wondering if anyone knows what might be stronger than Opana. It sounds like people are having a terrible time with the new Oxycontin. Does Subutex help severe chronic pain or is that mainly used to treat abusers?

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RickyBobby, who are you replying too?

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who are you posting a reply to, House?

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please..... shut your stupid mouth...well, at least I said please!!

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RickyBobby,
It is too bad, you are being judgemental of me, if it is my posts you are replying too. I am only talking to those who are abusing their medications, drug junkies, using it for pleasure. I have seen too many who are doing this. I also have stopped some drug smugglers, from crossing the border, those who give it to our children, young people, making them hooked on it. My brother, of 51, the youngest in our family, just died from a rare brain disease, only few get. It was punching holes in his brain, they gave him morphine, to help him mentally and for his pain. So I understand this part. I was just writing to those who brag how they don't tell their doctors they are abusing it. This is what is causing the problems for all of us. We are all losing our doctors. I, personally have two primaries disappear, suddenly on me, fear they will lose their licenses or worse, go to jail, as on doctor did, in California. We can't get what is the only thing that works for our intense pain, our medications. Most of us are now committing suicide, to get from the pain. The only thing that is keeping me from doing so, is my great faith in GOD. This is why I started my petition, my writing to the President, to try and help us all, the honest chronic pain patients, who follow our prescriptions to the tea, who are monitored, closely, by our doctors, pharmacies, to be sure we don't abuse our precious medications. So, please, write not, what you know about, criticizing someone who cares. I care for the 100 million chronic pain patients. Those with mental illnesses, have plenty of other medications, the DEA doesn't care about, to help them. Morphine, Oxycontin, and similar medications, are not for the mentally affected! If you need these things, aren't in pain, it makes me wonder? Please, go to your doctor, for your mental help, get the proper medications for it. Don't just use our medications to get "High" on, for you are causing much suffering for many, many people, dying from their pain. You must have no idea of the extreme pain all of us are suffering from, so much so, we can't care for ourselves, our loved ones, or even get out of bed, each day. Also, what are you doing to help chronic pain patient's cause, other than come on and criticize???

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You are just as much a junkie as the drug seekers you so swimmingly bismirch it sounds like from your posts lol sounds like you are "getting what comes to you" as well hahaha. Have you ever considered drug users who may not have physical pain are using the pain pills to help with there mental pain. You shouldnt speak on what you dont know.

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I didn't know the risks until 3 months of insufflating 20 mg oxy morphone er the actavist brand. Which i felt had kess chubky stuff in it then the global. The 229 with the moon I started on 60 of the green g73 then the next month did 84 of the 229 and following month did 84 as well. If I stop insufflating them and eat them or switch to eating 10mg or will I be ok I? Will my lungs get back to nornmal? I had no idea it had silica and other bad things in it. Suggestions other then stopping do i need a chest exam or a breathe exam? Dud I ruin my body in such a short 3 month span actually it was 4 months one month I I've shot 4 v mg of hydrometer one through an I've drip at a localbhiso u told but now I'm trying to get the help I need I have servery problems that's why I just want to get the 20 mg ur a few times a day orally.

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It's perfectly okay, pain makes us do things we wish we couldn't, such as changing our personalities. I get upset, myself, because I'm a type "A" personality, always in charge of everything. Now, I am helpless and it is not a good feeling. Plus, to add to my misery it is 103 degrees here, where I live. This isn't normal, but I fear the "Greenhouse Effect" is happening much faster than they first believed. I am not heat tolerant, so my whole body is suffering and I can't eat or sleep. I just wish the folks who are taking away our medications, would feel just a little of what we are all going through.
Please, take care of yourself, and hopefully, you will find another doctor who is more understanding and caring and will find something that will help with your suffering.
I have you in my prayers...
Always!

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Alright Marriane you are right. I guess I just get angry sometimes and speak (or write) without thinking. I honestly don't inhale the pills. I did a long time ago and then read something on the internet that scared me and I haven't since. I just have a soft spot for addicts because of different family members. And I just get get very defensive. I don't feel like I abuse my medicine but I guess you are right if I take more then prescribed I am. I don't feel like I do. I hate being in pain a n d just wish it would stop. I know that the pill heads do make it hard for everyone including me.I have more of a problem with the people who sell them because the addicts are just being addicts but the people who are selling the pills are just greedy. I originally came to this site because a UA came back positive for a drug I've never ever taken. I was taking 4 30 mg of oxycodone a day and now until my drug results comes back from the lab she gave 3 10 mg oxycodones a day. Now I'm really in pain and sick. Probably why I'm grumpy :) I just wish I could be without medication, and that's for real. I have children and can't go anywhere with them. But hopefully one day things will change. Again I apologize for being rude, it really wasn't my intention.

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ChronicPainGirl,
Here, here, on your frank post. I am happy you said what you said about telling the others to, (well, you know), about not understanding that we are not drug abusers! You said what I can't say. I am also happy that opana is working for you. I hope, if I get a new doctor, I want, in July, she will prescribe that for me. I am taking myself off my current dose of morphine, myself. It is very hard, painful and my heart is being badly affected, because I have a leaky heart valve and the pain, in my body is too much, raising my heart rate and making it unstable. I hope the new doctor will prescribe the opana for me, since you say it is working for you. Thank you for your post. I wish you well...
Always!

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Listen, I am in the same boat as you. I can't even brush my teeth, let alone doing any other things, plus, I am trying to care for a blind person, who has no one else to help him. The only part, where you write, you are inhaling the medication, is the very reason why the DEA and others are thinking we are drug abusers. You need to take it as prescribed. Not insufflate it. Then, you will feel a "high," like the normals and the DEA, etc. will think. They WILL consider that as your being a drug abuser, which is hurting all of us, including you. If you are in the pain you state you are in, then I apologize for being so hard on you. I am in the very same way. But, please, if you are insufflating, not telling your doctor about it, then keep it to yourself. They are watching, all of these sites, including your posts. This will give them more fuel, to add to their "War on Drugs!" No, I'm not being judgemental, just shocked you would write such a thing, admitting it, in public. Please, write no more, do not write how you are taking your medication, when it isn't prescribed that way. It is making it hard, for people like, myself, like all of us, to see our doctors, get our medications, because they will all think, like the last jerk doctor, I saw, that we are druggies, lying around "high", for recreational purposes, and not really ill at all! I am not high on my medication. The only reason I am getting off of something that has really, really helped my pain, but still enable me to do normal things, well, not all things, but better than I am now, is because a new doctor won't see me. He/she will think they will loose their license, if they have a patient on the medication I am trying to get off of. Also note, I am doing this myself. I did not fill the last prescription, given to me by the jerk doctor. This proves I am not a druggie. Maybe you need posts from other Chronic pain sites, see all the sufferings out there, because of the "War on Drugs," how nothing else has worked for most of us, out here. I've done and gone through everything that needed to be done, I can't even be touched, wear certain clothing, for my body is so sensitive to pain. I can't even fold my hands in prayer, or get a hug, I so badly want. It is because of my diseases that makes this happen. I didn't ask for it. But, I am not a person who insufflates, uses or abuses what little relief I have gotten. All I want is for you to keep your secret, your insufflating, to yourself. It is the very thing they are looking for, to keep us from getting the help we need. I hope you will find some relief, if there is any out there. I know I won't, for again, I've tried everything.

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You don't k ow me. I do suffer and the reason I wrote "the nasty post" was to show you how judgemental you are being. You talk about doing dishes and laundry, I can't take a shower without help. I'm imaging doing laundry right now and would love to but I can't stand for longer then 3 minutes without horrifying pain, so if you want to compare horror stories I can go all day. What I was trying to get across to you was to have some compassion. You admitted yourself you know nothing about addiction, and pills and drugs. Addiction and alcoholism is a disease. No one chooses to be an addict. Drug addicts dont lay in bed all day high. Drug addicts are your teachers,lawyers,friends,Drs ,nurses and waitresses. They come from all walks of life and most times are "functioning" addicts. Yes even if you have pain you still get a rush with the pills. At first, but then it stops and you don't feel it anymore. If you don't you are different because even my 80 year old father who never took anything more then a Tylenol in his life told me "wow that pill screwed me up a little" after surgery. The drug addicts that do opiates on a daily basis are not getting high, they are getting well. They feel no euphoric effects. They are simple doing it to feel normal. Can you imagine the insanity of that? Spending 100+ dollars a day just so you aren't sick? And yes they get off the drugs and turn around and do it again , that's the insanity of addiction. Be grateful you are only physically addicted and not mentally. Instead of judging everyone why don't you try to help someone? I take my pills as prescribed and if once in a while I take a little extra to try to feel something that's my business. Am I addicted? Oh definitely, go through withdrawal once and you'll understand. Good for you that you cut down on your pills, I have no desire to be in pain. So I won't. I do apologize if I offended you, I was just angry. I hope you are able to get help with your pain and able to feel better.

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sickofjudgementalfools,
You are completely wrong about Chronic Pain Patients. I, for one, never believed in taking drugs, drinking alcohol and such. I hate taking pills. But, when one is in such pain, they can't take care of a blind man, cook, do laundry, shower, brush their teeth, or even put on clothes, without such terrifying and horrific pain, we are not given a choice. My doctor put me on what I was taking. I didn't ask for it, I didn't know the condition I was in, the prognosis, until she told me. I never heard of these medications before. But after her and my other primary, plus 12 other doctors, trying everything on me, with no relief, stuck in a wheel chair and then bed, the only alternative was the medications, they are giving me. NOT DRUGS FOR DRUG ADDICTS!

Chronic pain patients, particularly myself, do not get any "highs" on our medications. It goes straight to helping our pain. My mind isn't in any euphoria, it isn't enjoying the medications, my body is. I am able to take care of a blind & destitute man, who would otherwise be on the streets. He needs complete care. I am able to grocery shop, cook, clean the house, take a shower and brush my teeth! Yes, I even can bend enough to put on some socks. As far as my brain, I am still the way I was, before getting on the medication. I can pay bills, spell correctly and write well enough. A drug addict can't do this. A drug addict only lies around, in a "High" all the time, doing nothing, but stealing money, where ever he/she can to get her "Highs!"

My medications are closely monitored, by the doctors, the pharmacies, the insurance companies, the manufacturers, (the honest ones). I can't take advantage of my medications, like a drug addict can, I have to follow the directions, because I simply want to. I don't want to be a drug addict, so when I am following these directions, sometimes, I may miss a pill, during the day. That, right there, explains that I am not a drug addict. Right now, I cut myself down, from my strong pain medication, from 300 mgs/day, to only 30 mgs/day. Tell me, can a drug addict do this? NO! Not without going into rehab or being hospitalized. So, again, this proves Chronic Pain Patients are NOT DRUG ADDICTS! Yes, if the government and the DEA suddenly make our doctors, our pharmacies, our insurance, stop helping us, we will end up in more pain, but not from the pain of the withdrawals, for those are a piece of cake, compared to our pain we will be suffering more! So, you don't know what you are talking about, you are not a Chronic Pain Patient, you do not suffer. For if you did, you wouldn't write the nasty post, you just did. You are a normal person, with no pain at all and you need to get off this thread. It's people like you that are making us suffer, so much more.

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I love all the comments on here of the "real pain sufferers" against all the "junkies". All the pain meds you people are taking you are addicted too. I don't want to hear you "hate" the pills cuz it just ain't true. you don't like the feeling? You are no different and when you run out and are ill don't tell me you are not addicted. I have legitimate pain issues. Very bad ones that make me basically a prisoner in my home, but if I insufflate a few of my pills I'm an addict/junkie? You run out of your medication and lay in bed ill out of your mind and someone stops by with A pill of H which will make you better in 30seconds let's see how long you wait. Judgemental doesn't Begin to describe you guys. Where do you think most H addicts come from? Pill takers. "There but for the grace of God goes I" Be grateful you haven't gotten to that point. Opiate addicts are all the same whether you take them legitimately or not. Everyone is physically addicted. You "legitimate" pain people probably feel higher then the "junkies", all they are doing is staying well, ask any addict and they'll tell you they spend all that money to feel normal. #compassion

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