Opana 40mg Vs Oxycontin Op 80mg (Page 3)

my Dr prescribed Opana 40mg as alternative to Oxy 80 mg 2 twice a day which I would insufflate - I didn't tell him this of course. he claimed them to be just as good if not stronger can any one share about opana 40mg

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This is not a forum for Narcotics Anonymous, so please stop preaching about what you SHOULD do and SHOULDN'T DO!

The new Oxycontin is DEFINITELY less bioavailable (medicine getting into your system) than the original medication. I have seen people who are on two 30 MG Oxycontin per day, for over a year. Then, as soon as they picked up their prescription (Oxycontin OP), with the new formulation, they are NOT getting nearly the same relief they had with the original Oxycontin. You must write Pharma-Purdue and the FDA to tell them how this new formulation is not working for you.

I have tried changing to Opana, but the patient's response isn't as good as it was with the equivalent (15 MG) dosage. So, what has worked for me is, upping the dosage by 10 MG for those who continue on the new formulation of Oxycontin (OP). This has worked for all of the people I have recorded to experience poor effectiveness (bioavailability) of the previous (original) formulation od Oxycontin.

Again, if you want to convert people who are "abusing" drugs, go to a different site! At least this is an open forum for those who are able to discuss, honestly, what they do with their own bodies and you should keep it as safe as possible for them. Instead of posting your conservative, self-righteous opinions here, go to church, or work at a community drug abuse program. Put your actions where your mouth is.

I am not in any way advocating people to misuse any prescriptions, but if they choose to do so, this forum should be open, accepting and helpful to those who choose that path. If you shut them down, their lives are in more danger.

To summarize, I have changed people to Opana, however, they are not getting the same results as with the original formulation of the Oxycontin they used to take. If you fall into this category, then ask your physician to up your dosage of Oxycontin (if possible), or prescribe other medication for breakthrough pain.

It is a FACT that the new Oxycontin is NOT as effective as the original formulation and the manufacturer will have to address this problem. Thank you for not making those people who abuse any medication, feel bad about themselves. Just try to make it as safe as possible and allow them to be open and honest.

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@vikinpainC, don't be offended when the Dr. says you are addicted. I think dependent is probably a better fit. Your body does require a certain level of narcotics after it's been ingesting some for such a long time. 'Addicts', from my opinion, are people that are using narcotics for recreational use. But regardless of which word you use, your body was/is reliant of your meds to keep from having w/d's.

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Dr. Abraham, I have been posting on here trying to find a drug, or a combination of drugs to help with my chronic pain. This pain has effected every aspect of my life. After continuing my discussion with my Dr to try and come to an agreement on what combination might work for me, he has me on a new trial. He has me taking Suboxone 8/2 mg~1.5 hrs before taking my 30mg ER morphine. This change just happened yesterday, so I don't have anything to report yet. I am not impressed with the morphine at all, so maybe this plan would work if I was still on the opana; in place of the morphine. Would everyone please let me know if you have ever tried this method and if it did, or didn't work. Thanks.

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I have been taking Opanas for back pain for about 2 years. Currwntly on 4 20 mgs a day. I have been snorting them for about 4 months. They just help me more this way. My Dr doesn't believ in narcotics for breaktheu pain, so she won't presceibe me perxocets or anything like that, just tons of Opana. When I'm in real pain I snoet a pill and pain is gone. My question is, how dandrrous is this? I don't mean ODing or anything, as many of you probably do I have a crazy high tolerance. I have never even felt close to anything resembling an OD. I'm scared about stuff I've been hearing on the web about silicone being in the pills and if you have snorted 100 pills you have signed your death warrant and etc. Scared me really bad. Please someone tell me what you know. I read the warning on the insert in the Opana ER package and it DOES mention warnings for drug abusers about the possibility of OD when you crush or snort ot but never mentions that you are poisioning ur lungs and will die in 10 years. What do you rhink? I'm scared. Besides my back I'm a normal wife,mother,in her 30s who goes to work everu day.

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I THINK THERE ARE SO MANY OF US WITH THIS EXACT SAME PROBLEM,,AND I HAVE CALLED PURDUE,,THEY DONT CARE,,THE NEW OP'S DONT WORK,,SO I RAN OUT,,NOW MY DOC WILL PROBABLY NEVER GIVE ME ANOTHER SCRIPT,,AFTER BEING ON THEM 10 YEARS,,WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?? THANKS ALOT FOR ALL THE AGGREVATION PURDUE,,AND FOR MAKING MY LIFE HELL,,,I DONT ABUSE ANYTHING,,NOW I HAVE TO SUFFER FOR THOSE WHO DO??? ANYBODY KNOW A DOC THAT WILL PERSCRIBE 80'S 3 X A DAY IN NORTHERN MI???? I DOUBT IT!! HELP

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Stop it, there is no propoxyphene in the new OP's. I've heard it all now!!!

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Bohica:

I don't understand why your physician would prescribe Suboxone® with another Narcotic. Suboxone is a medication made of two components: Buprenorphine® and Naloxone®. A NEW medication has just been released, which your physician should change your Suboxone to Butrans®. Butrans is a patch, that does not have Naloxone in it. Naloxone is used to prevent narcotics from working. You should be on pure Buprenorphine, which is the Butrans patch. It is manufactured by the same company that manufactures Oxycontin. Buprenorphine has been used in Europe for many, many years, for chronic pain. In fact, it is the number one prescribed medication in Europe, whereas Vicodin (Hydrocodone) is the number one in the USA.

I am very surprised that you would have any relief, or effectiveness from taking another narcotic while taking Suboxone. So, go to the Pharma® website and find Butrans. Print it out and take it to your physician. You might want to print "How to Prescribe this Medication", so your physician knows how to write the RX. There are three, different strengths.

Butrans is a flesh-colored patch, that should last for about four days. When you first apply it, it will take approximately 12 hours for it to take effect. You really don't want to be taking Suboxone, as it does have the "ANTI-NARCOTIC" component of Naloxone. By taking Suboxone, it is effectively cancelling out the effectiveness of any other narcotic you ingest. This is why I am so perplexed why any physician would prescribe Suboxone AND a narcotic.

As I mentioned, Buprenorphine has been used very successfully in Europe for a very long time. Your pharmacy will probably not have it in stock and need to order it, as it is a very new medication. Again, do your own research on it and go to the manufacturer's website. There is a section called "Our Products". You will see Oxycontin and the other major pain medication they produce. Go to the Butrans area and print out everything you can find on that medication.

Hopefully this will work much better for you! I really don't know why it has taken the United States so long to approve this medication for pain relief, as it has been available for so long. Give it a try and see if you have better results from Butrans, rather than Suboxone.

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thank you for posting this reply,,I dont feel so bad now that I know it is not in my head,,it IS the new meds,,but my doctor is very strict, and hard to deal with,,I need a new doctor,,and a new med! I have talked to Purdue for over an hour about this,,they said: too bad, sorry, it should work,,etc.

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I DID contact Purdue,,they could care less,,I now need a new doc,,because mine does not keep up on the latest about meds,,he does not like to write scripts for meds anyway,,when I ran out early this month because of the change,,he drug tested me,,now will probably cut me off totally...I have had botched back surgery,,have cancer of the liver, now on my spleen and making my pancreas not function,,to where I have to take insulin injections 2X a day,,this is all BS,,I need help! Live in Northern MI,,anybody know where I can go now?

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Wow, so many problems with these new formulations. I went from the Oxy (OP's) to Opana and then Exalgo. Me, I had some weird side effects from both and neither gave very good pain relief. Now I am back to my regular hydromorphone and Oxy (OP's) which work but are about 30-35% less effective. I am backwards from most in that I take the hydromorphone as my base pain med. and the Oxy at night so I can sleep the whole night. I worry about the new Remoxy/polymer/glue/resin gunk that is in it so I try to limit my intake of Oxy. I also had to change pain docs because my old one went with long acting meds only with no breakthrough. Now my doc is working with me and listening to what I can demonstrate is working. Side benefit is that these meds. are much cheaper and work quicker, which I happen to like. You might wish to consider being backwards for the reasons I mentioned. A side note, I was on Xanax 0.25 mg. 3x and have been trying to get off it, really hard. Now I am on Klonopin wafers 0.125 (sublingual) 3x and hope to be free from the benzos in a few months. If any of you are in the same boat you might also wish to add GABA and 5-HTP which seem to help you sleep and relax. Both can be purchased at a vitamin store. Be good, take care, use caution.

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KADIAN 50mg.twice a daywith hydrocodone for bt but I'M BEDRIDDEN AND WANT TO GET UP I'M LOSING MY FAMILYOXYS WERE OK TILL THEY CHANGED DOC SAYS 90% complain

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I have been beeing prescribed something similar accept with oxycontin instead of opana. I tried it a few times at first and it seemed to work pretty will, but then I just went back to taking oxy's and using the sub's when I ran out to keep from w/d. Now this had been a few years ago that he started doing this and I am now on opana as of the last two months but he is hesitant to do the sub's wih the opana's. I really wish they would go back to the oc's instead of these horribly op's which are not doing near what the old did

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I think we that take the new oxy's,,and are use to the old OC ones,,all agree that they are not worth a crap,,but what are we going to do about it? I have called Purdue, wrote to them, tried to explain to my dr. (who is not too happy with me anyway,,because when I first switched tothe new ones,,I had a terrible time ran out early, now I dont even know if he will ever write my script again,,,,so anyway,,I am worried, in pain,dont know what to do yet,,I will NOT taked suboxone or the stuff that says it is a pain med with it in it, (buprenorphine), or METHADONE,,as I was on that for years,,and it did nothing for pain,,just kept me out of withdrawals! so if anyone has any suggestions,,PLEASE post them, if ya know a good pain doc who is aware of all these med. changes,,in Northern MI,,that info would be greatly appreciated,,,and good luck and God Bless us all that have to suffer and worry because street addicts and the government made it so we have to go through more suffering on top of what we all ready do!

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is there such a thing as opana 40mg ir?

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Please go to another Doctor that listens to you. I have finally found one that listened to me and took almost an hour with me. Go on the internet and research your nearby pain management doctors, go to the office and look what kind of patients are waiting in the waiting room and you can get a feel if the Dr is in it for the money or for the passion. I'm from Florida where people come here for the pills and then sells them. If you don't like you Dr, find another and keep at it until you are happy. Don't let them bully you around because they are afraid of losing there license.

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HA HA Florida isn't the only state that people go to doctors to get pills and sell them. That happens in every state. LMFAO!!!

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Oh I know, I was in Kentucky last year for a few months on business. They call I-75 the Oxy highway! Sux's that the abusers make it more difficult for the real people like me in horrible pain each day to make it more stressfull to obtain our meds just to keep plugging along. It will get to a point that they will have picture ID's to obtain meds which isn't a bad idea to begin with.

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i too have been wondering why i dont feel just right. i was taking 2 oxycontin-40mg per day with 8-5mg oxycodone for breakthrough pain. this worked very well for about 3-4 years. i noticed that my meds were running-out6-8 days early. i talked to my great,wonderful,caring,sympathetic,very smart well you get it,my dr. is my savior.anyway he bumped me up to 60mg from 40mg of the newOPs. well, i got them filled and the drug store had some old OCs and that month i had 3 OCs left and 29 oxycodone left... that was the best month for me and my pain.... now im feeling sick at my stomach and just down right rotten. THANKS alot for changing your formula. you are going to lose a lot of money cause the new OPs just dont work near as well as the OCs.. thanks for listening. im sure my dr. will figure out something for me to take.

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Insurance (disability) denied oxycontin coverage...
Hey guys, just a question, my insurance will not cover oxycontin. Been on all other forms of pain meds, vicodin, morphine, dialudid, methadone...etc. Have found that only Oxy is great with pain control with no side effects. Did the 2 week trial, having to pay $75.00 for it, thinking I would square it up with insurance later as I could no longer take the morhpine, too dizzy and nauseated. Well after I called, my PM docs office called and faxed them a form, they denied coverage. So now I will have to try another pain med as I can't affort $150.00/month for meds on disability. Question is, has anyone dealt with or have heard of Astra-Zeneca, I think it is, that helps people afford their meds who do not have insurance, or not covered for that med? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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